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I am not going into huge depths on this in this first post. My quick thought is that Christians are adopted Jews. Christianity is Judaism fulfilled. We are not the enemies of Judaism. We like Christ should feel saddenned that they keep waiting for a Messiah that allready came and was rejected by them. Christianity is Judaism.
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:11 AM
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Christ is probably more disappointed how Jews have mistreated by the Christians for centuries.
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Christ is probably more disappointed how Jews have mistreated by the Christians for centuries.
I am sure there are some misguided Christians who have mistreated the Jews. The Jews on the other hand were murdering the Christians. Those are both very sad occurrences that people against Christianity use as excuses for putting down Christianity. Remember KTL that most of those mistreating the Jews who claim to be Christians are not Christians. I could claim to be a horse but it woudn't make me one. How about the Christians that were risking their own lives to save Jews during World War II. You just seem to be in this place that you are looking for negatives within Christianity. Why not look for the good? There is so much good within Christianity and the Church.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:25 AM
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I am sure there are some misguided Christians who have mistreated the Jews. The Jews on the other hand were murdering the Christians. Those are both very sad occurrences that people against Christianity use as excuses for putting down Christianity. Remember KTL that most of those mistreating the Jews who claim to be Christians are not Christians. I could claim to be a horse but it woudn't make me one. How about the Christians that were risking their own lives to save Jews during World War II. You just seem to be in this place that you are looking for negatives within Christianity. Why not look for the good? There is so much good within Christianity and the Church.
I am actually talking about the 19th century.. not 2000 years ago-

I am not looking for negative things.. it just that when ever I open a history book.. all those negative things just pour out.

I actually strike against the churches.. yes people did help the Jews in ww2.... what did the churches say or do??

now things are better between christians and Jews... why pretend that is the way it has always been?

the longer we act as if the christians are actually acting like they should in so many incidences, the longer we are just deceiving ourselves, but we are not deceiving Christ..

He knows if you really believe or just say you believe just to to heaven.

and believe me there is a big difference.

now unlike others, I do not go around saying who ever does not agree with me will go to hell....
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I am actually talking about the 19th century.. not 2000 years ago-

I am not looking for negative things.. it just that when ever I open a history book.. all those negative things just pour out.

I actually strike against the churches.. yes people did help the Jews in ww2.... what did the churches say or do??

now things are better between christians and Jews... why pretend that is the way it has always been?

the longer we act as if the christians are actually acting like they should in so many incidences, the longer we are just deceiving ourselves, but we are not deceiving Christ..

He knows if you really believe or just say you believe just to to heaven.


and believe me there is a big difference.

now unlike others, I do not go around saying who ever does not agree with me will go to hell....
Look at the part that I have bolded. Yes there are some people who claim to be Christians that have done bad things.The true Christians are not doing the bad things you are talking about. Look for them. The true Christians are out there doing wonderful things every day.

The way you talk here it makes me think you get no Christian fellowship at all and you almost talk as if you hate and JUDGE all Christians. Nobody is perfect but there are people out there trying to be the best they can be. The Bible says they will know we are Christians by our love for one another. That means we should show love to everybody of course but particularly to our fellow Christians.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:31 PM
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Look at the part that I have bolded. Yes there are some people who claim to be Christians that have done bad things.The true Christians are not doing the bad things you are talking about. Look for them. The true Christians are out there doing wonderful things every day.

The way you talk here it makes me think you get no Christian fellowship at all and you almost talk as if you hate and JUDGE all Christians. Nobody is perfect but there are people out there trying to be the best they can be. The Bible says they will know we are Christians by our love for one another. That means we should show love to everybody of course but particularly to our fellow Christians.
I feel most christians are pretty hateful saying that everyone else is going to hell.

pretty hateful to me.

that is not what Christ taught at all.
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Anyway getting back to the original point I was making in this thread the Christians place is to pray for the Jews and be a witness to them.
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Okay, Ktl, I'm a little confused. Are you a Christian? You mention that the Bible is wrong.

What are your beliefs?
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Okay, Ktl, I'm a little confused. Are you a Christian? You mention that the Bible is wrong.

What are your beliefs?


peter 2-3-9 says that God keeps the world going on so all can come to repentance.

it is really not that hard to figure out what it means.
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peter 2-3-9 says that God keeps the world going on so all can come to repentance.

it is really not that hard to figure out what it means.
Okay, so is that the only scripture, you believe, or do you believe everything in the Bible?
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