View Full Version : Should Marijuana Be Legal?
TaylorHicksRocks
04-09-2008, 02:01 PM
This is where the discussion should be and like Feisty I have to agree that it should.....Liquor is more harmful and it's legal.
No I don't smoke......I did however have a prescription for it when I lived in NV.....No it wasn't one of those oh let's see if I can get it for those of you who do not know I( have Multiple Sclerosis and it does help....I now live in a state where it is not legal.....Therefore I don't use it.........
So people let's discuss!!
This is where the discussion should be and like Feisty I have to agree that it should.....Liquor is more harmful and it's legal.
No I don't smoke......I did however have a prescription for it when I lived in NV.....No it wasn't one of those oh let's see if I can get it for those of you who do not know I( have Multiple Sclerosis and it does help....I now live in a state where it is not legal.....Therefore I don't use it.........
So people let's discuss!!
I fully agree that marijuana should be at least for medical purposes.
it is illegal to use marijuana for MS here in the midwest, but it is legal for people to use bee stings. bee stings are very painful, but they are legal. I question the reasoning that it would be better for a person to go through such painful experiences such as being stung by a bee than to smoke marijuana.
Maisha
04-10-2008, 06:09 AM
some folk put weed in there brownies.my mamas best friend put it in her bean and berry stew.when her family get together for holidays,they laugh a lot at the dinner table.i hear it give you real bad gas too.that can be a odorous situation! :fart:
TaylorHicksRocks
04-10-2008, 07:59 AM
I fully agree that marijuana should be at least for medical purposes.
it is illegal to use marijuana for MS here in the midwest, but it is legal for people to use bee stings. bee stings are very painful, but they are legal. I question the reasoning that it would be better for a person to go through such painful experiences such as being stung by a bee than to smoke marijuana.
Then you have to think about those of us who are allergic to bee's such as myself....Medical purposes are the way to go but there are too many people who just want to smoke it and make up things so their Doctor will give them a script for it........Even in NV it was legal for me but I had to find a dealer or a friend of my husband's would do the dirty work for us for a fee......So after my husband died I didn't worry about it anymore....
Then you have to think about those of us who are allergic to bee's such as myself....Medical purposes are the way to go but there are too many people who just want to smoke it and make up things so their Doctor will give them a script for it........Even in NV it was legal for me but I had to find a dealer or a friend of my husband's would do the dirty work for us for a fee......So after my husband died I didn't worry about it anymore....
Legalizing marijuana for medical puroses is one of Montel Williams' projects. He has MS.
He has information about this subject on his web site.
Eileenacanadian
04-10-2008, 12:19 PM
I fully agree that marijuana should be at least for medical purposes.
it is illegal to use marijuana for MS here in the midwest, but it is legal for people to use bee stings. bee stings are very painful, but they are legal. I question the reasoning that it would be better for a person to go through such painful experiences such as being stung by a bee than to smoke marijuana.
What in the world does the bee sting do? I've never heard of that.
Eileenacanadian
04-10-2008, 12:21 PM
some folk put weed in there brownies.my mamas best friend put it in her bean and berry stew.when her family get together for holidays,they laugh a lot at the dinner table.i hear it give you real bad gas too.that can be a odorous situation! :fart:
I tried that years ago and I got uncomfortably high at a party. I also was starving from the pot/hash so I ate another one which didn't help.
Eileenacanadian
04-10-2008, 12:22 PM
I don't smoke it anymore but I don't see the harm in legalizing it.
Eileenacanadian
04-10-2008, 12:26 PM
YouTube - Adam and the Ants - Goody Two Shoes
This song comes to mind since we are talking about pot.
TaylorHicksRocks
04-10-2008, 01:04 PM
YouTube - Adam and the Ants - Goody Two Shoes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhvqVqLAdLI)
This song comes to mind since we are talking about pot.
I loved that song back in the day....I had no idea it was about pot...
Eileenacanadian
04-11-2008, 01:47 AM
Reading this thread the song just suddenly came to mind. Goody two goody two goody goody two shoes
Goody two goody two goody goody two shoes
Don't drink don't smoke - what do you do
Don't drink don't smoke - what do you do
Slimey
04-11-2008, 10:21 AM
What is the government's argument against legalizing it? I would think the tax benefit for them would far outweigh any negatives. If it were legalizes it would most likely be taxed like crazy. I guess they wouldn't get money from fines, bonds, and court costs anymore, but they could cut the funds for the "war" on that drug.
TaylorHicksRocks
04-11-2008, 10:23 AM
Reading this thread the song just suddenly came to mind. Goody two goody two goody goody two shoes
Goody two goody two goody goody two shoes
Don't drink don't smoke - what do you do
Don't drink don't smoke - what do you do
I was young and naive then I thought they were referring to cigarettes....
YouTube - Adam and the Ants - Goody Two Shoes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhvqVqLAdLI)
This song comes to mind since we are talking about pot.
I saw Adam in a concert MANY moons ago. And to think I once thought these folks were uber kewl.............
Reminds me of these folks too...........
Bow Wow Wow
What is the government's argument against legalizing it? I would think the tax benefit for them would far outweigh any negatives. If it were legalizes it would most likely be taxed like crazy. I guess they wouldn't get money from fines, bonds, and court costs anymore, but they could cut the funds for the "war" on that drug.
Yep. Our gub-mint folks always talk about how harmful ciggy's are, but no way they'd ever prohibit them because the taxes they collect on them are significant. As a matter of fact, in all the lawsuits against "big tobacco" it was brought up that the states collected more in taxes than they claimed they had to spend on health care for smokers. But no one paid attention to that. And yes, the "war on drugs", brought to you by the same folks who gave us the "war on poverty" and the latest sequel, the "war on terror"......
Slimey
04-11-2008, 12:06 PM
Yep. Our gub-mint folks always talk about how harmful ciggy's are, but no way they'd ever prohibit them because the taxes they collect on them are significant. As a matter of fact, in all the lawsuits against "big tobacco" it was brought up that the states collected more in taxes than they claimed they had to spend on health care for smokers. But no one paid attention to that. And yes, the "war on drugs", brought to you by the same folks who gave us the "war on poverty" and the latest sequel, the "war on terror"......
Reminds me of the "big oil" making too much profit thing that's been going around lately. The government makes way more per gallon than "big oil".
Reminds me of the "big oil" making too much profit thing that's been going around lately. The government makes way more per gallon than "big oil".
Yeah, "big oil" makes ~ 6 cents/gallon profit. The gub-mint takes about 60 cents/gallon yet risks no capital. But they want to hold hearings on the huge profits they're making. Hoy.........
But that would be one of the concerns about legalizing ganja. The gub-mint would allow it but tax it. Then after 15 years they would claim some societal cost and want to sue "big reefer".
Next concern would be that it would free the resources of the drug lords to quit importing weed (pot takes up a lot of volume per shipped dollar of profit) and focus on stuff like heroin and meth. Those are truly destructive drugs. But big profits for the drug runners.
Eileenacanadian
04-11-2008, 12:36 PM
I was young and naive then I thought they were referring to cigarettes....
either or....
TaylorHicksRocks
04-11-2008, 01:59 PM
either or....
No not that....Tee Hee.......I was a very good girl until I moved to Las Vegas that is Sin City for sure.....
Feisty Kitty
04-14-2008, 04:42 PM
Legalize it already!
Although X1 made some great points, there is really only one problem with the legalization of marajuana: FEAR! Marajuana's legalization would be nothing but beneficial for our country. Here is the reasoning.................
~Marajuana is one of the most effective medicines in dealing with a myriad of health conditions. It allieviates pain for those with chronic pain disorders, is incredible with allieviating the symptoms of neurological disorders, and allows those undergoing Chemo therapy to eat. Yes, it does have side effects, but compared with drugs on the market today, they are fewer and less drastic. Anyone see what happens when you take pills for Restless leg? Suddenly you turn into a compulsive gambler and a sex addict. Smoke some weed, and you might work your way through an entire bag of Doritos. I would prefer the latter personally.
~Tax. If the gov't legalizes it, it becomes like alcohol and cigarettes, something to tax the hell out of an give to needy organizations like education. It would help lower the risks of recession, in which the US, So Cal especially, is currently seeing the effects.
~Control. With gov't tax comes gov't control. My students have been very honest with me in that they smoke a good deal of pot, because, get this, it is EASIER to get that alcohol. That's right! Because alcohol is gov't controlled. It may sound crazy at first, until you really look at the logic here. A kid can buy pot from a friend of a friend of a friend.........but they can't purchase an alcoholic beverage from a store.
Personally, I used to smoke a good deal in college. A good deal for me was an eighth of an ounce, which could last me a month if I didn't share. Not a lot really. I would smoke a bowl, bust out my Cool Ranch Doritos and cottage cheese (trust me! It is DELICIOUS) and plop in front of some funny movie and be happy as hell for two or three hours. I stopped when I became a teacher because it seemed wrong to me. I have smoked since, here and there, but it made me hella paranoid, and I started taking mad stock of my life and stressing about all of my flaws and mistakes I have made. Needless to say, I don't ENJOY smoking pot, but I really wish more people would, rather than drinking alcohol. It is just better for you.
The argument about it being a gateway drug is bollocks. I have had straight up pothead friends who never even cracked a beer, let alone anything else. Those who have said they were going to do that harder stuff anyway, regardless of pot. Walk into an N.A. meeting with a story about addiction to grass and you will be laughed out. It just isn't the danger people think it is. If you want to worry about a drug and how it affects our world, start freaking out about meth!
It has to be legalized, if for no other reason than that people who need it for their illnesses can get it, and not be hastled for having it. Very sick people with perscriptions get arrested all the time for taking their medicine, while bored housewives wash down Pecaset and Valium with Vodka, all legal. We really need to reevaluate our thinking on this issue.
And if ganja was legal, think of the side benefits to the economy. I mean, the makers of Doritos, Moutain Dew, Taco Bell, Hostess snacks, etc would see their profits skyrocket. :D
But seriously, the libertarian/constitutionalist streak in me says that the gub-mint (at the Federal level anyway) really has no Constitutional authority to 'ban' pot. The way the Framers intended, this should have been strictly an issue for the individual states. The Fed can prohibit it from being sold across state lines, but that's really all the authority they really have. Look at history, it took a Constitutional ammendment to prohibit alcohol. But the Feds 'banned' pot with a simple act of legislation. Now how did that happen?
Also, it's less harmful than alcohol. And most folks who get overly stoned tend to be mellow and less likely to want to go out and start a fight or something like that.
TaylorHicksRocks
04-15-2008, 06:24 PM
It's legal in 12 states now.....Minnesota is going to vote on legalizing it come November....
Maisha
04-17-2008, 10:47 AM
i hope they NEVER leglise weed.it has ruined many of my brothers and sisters lifes.i think it would be wonderful if they permanently prisoned all violaters.send a message.;)
TaylorHicksRocks
04-17-2008, 01:54 PM
i hope they NEVER leglise weed.it has ruined many of my brothers and sisters lifes.i think it would be wonderful if they permanently prisoned all violaters.send a message.;)
Well if you suffered with cancer, aids, multiple sclerosis or any other disease you might just change your mind...If you haven't walked a mile in their shoes you should not speak for them.....
It's legal in 12 states now.....Minnesota is going to vote on legalizing it come November....
So don't be a bogart....................
Don't Bogart
TaylorHicksRocks
04-17-2008, 08:03 PM
Lol if only it were legal here in Wisconsin but then again I would not smoke it because of my son......That song does remind me of my younger fays living in Las Vegas my room mate and boy friend were smoking and she told him her was a bogart.....
Slimey
04-18-2008, 11:58 AM
Here's some recent news on the subject.
This bill would make federal authorities respect states' current laws on medicinal cannabis and end DEA raids on facilities distributing medical marijuana legally under state law. (http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7582)
TaylorHicksRocks
04-18-2008, 04:03 PM
Interesting....
Maisha
04-21-2008, 06:49 PM
keep weed illegal (http://media.www.muhlenbergweekly.com/media/storage/paper300/news/2004/10/07/Oped/Keep-Marijuana.Illegal-746131.shtml)
Feisty Kitty
04-22-2008, 09:33 AM
keep weed illegal (http://media.www.muhlenbergweekly.com/media/storage/paper300/news/2004/10/07/Oped/Keep-Marijuana.Illegal-746131.shtml)
People should have to walk around in another person's shoes. If you had been around when my cousin, who is like my sister, contracted Hodgkin's disease when she was 24, then spent 6 months debilitated because of chemo, you might think differently. But then, it is really easy to make sweeping decisions from a sheltered place.
Too bad those decisions affect me! However, if I ever get sick, I will grow it myself and smoke as much as I need.
Some people cannot take it or leave it. It sounds like you have some of those in your family. It is sad, but your relatives' lack of control shouldn't prevent sick people from obtaining something to allieviate their suffering.
People should have to walk around in another person's shoes. If you had been around when my cousin, who is like my sister, contracted Hodgkin's disease when she was 24, then spent 6 months debilitated because of chemo, you might think differently. But then, it is really easy to make sweeping decisions from a sheltered place.
Too bad those decisions affect me! However, if I ever get sick, I will grow it myself and smoke as much as I need.
Some people cannot take it or leave it. It sounds like you have some of those in your family. It is sad, but your relatives' lack of control shouldn't prevent sick people from obtaining something to allieviate their suffering.
the problem with this world is that people want to impose thier views on everyone else. some people would rather that people with MS torture themselves with painful bee stings than to allow them have something that would be a lot less painful.
this is just being selfish and uncaring about anyone else.
if that is the view of the churches, I am glad that I am not part of any organized church.
Slimey
04-22-2008, 01:42 PM
the problem with this world is that people want to impose thier views on everyone else. some people would rather that people with MS torture themselves with painful bee stings than to allow them have something that would be a lot less painful.
this is just being selfish and uncaring about anyone else.
if that is the view of the churches, I am glad that I am not part of any organized church.
I couldn't agree with the bold text more.
All churches and/or religions are not that way, but some shamefully are.
Eileenacanadian
04-22-2008, 02:16 PM
If I were sick and it helped I'd take it and grow it if it were illegal. The only thing that would stop me is if it made me nervous and negative and made me dwell more on the disease with the negative stoned thoughts.
I met a woman who has wicked back pains. She has plates in her back and one day a screw or something popped through her skin!!!! She was in agony. When I met her she was only in her 40's and hunched over and sickly thin. She smokes pot for the pain and her family knows and respects that she does it for the pain.
Feisty Kitty
04-22-2008, 03:07 PM
I couldn't agree with the bold text more.
All churches and/or religions are not that way, but some shamefully are.
Most are, and it is disgusting. The church will always be the last in line for social reform.
Let's face it. Most people find it easier to condemn everything they don't understand, rather than trying to reason it out logically. It must just all belong to the devil! Well, today it is pot, but once upon a time, it was dancing, reading, people with different skin colors..................IMO, the church, ANY church, if full of BS. I am sorry if that offended anyone, but it isn't a direct attack on you.
The church can't hurt me anymore, but it does everyday to countless others.
Most are, and it is disgusting. The church will always be the last in line for social reform.
Let's face it. Most people find it easier to condemn everything they don't understand, rather than trying to reason it out logically. It must just all belong to the devil! Well, today it is pot, but once upon a time, it was dancing, reading, people with different skin colors..................IMO, the church, ANY church, if full of BS. I am sorry if that offended anyone, but it isn't a direct attack on you.
The church can't hurt me anymore, but it does everyday to countless others.
the churches teach that the devil planted marijuana. that is against scripture because nowhere in the bible does it claim that the devil had any part of creating the world. all what is in the world is created by god according to the bible.
they can always say ridiculous things like the devil planted marijuana because no one ever questions their 'infinite wisdom.'
and their followers never do, just sit there in church, agreeing with whatever stupid stuff flows from the puplit.
Maisha
04-22-2008, 03:46 PM
http://www.marijuana-addiction.net/marijuana-side-effects.htm
Marijuana side effects come from smoking or consuming the drug and marijuana side effects influence the mind and body of the user. Marijuana side effects can be as seemingly innocent as an increased appetite to as life threatening as lung cancer. Increased likelihood for accidents is also one of the marijuana side effects. Studies show that 6 to 11 percent of fatal accidents are contributed to by marijuana side effects. Other external marijuana side effects include legal problems, work and financial problems and troubles at home.
Marijuana is most often smoked but can be eaten or steeped in tea to drink. Most over-doses occur actually when the drug is eaten because it is easier to consume a large dose all at once. Marijuana side effects from an overdose include toxic psychosis including hallucinations, delusions and a loss of self-identification. When smoked, marijuana is rolled up into a cigarette called a joint or smoked in a pipe or water pipe called a bong. Marijuana has many street names like pot, hash, chronic and there are many paraphernalia available to smoke it.
Over 11 million people smoked marijuana last month. Many may not have severe marijuana side effects from taking the drug but many people will. Marijuana side effects include physical problems like breathing difficulties and deteriorating physical abilities. Despite a popular belief, marijuana side effects speed up the heart, blood and breathing rate. The body is taxed more and this speeds up the aging process just like methamphetamines do. The marijuana side effects from this extra exertion on the body include a higher risk for lung cancer, heart attacks and strokes.
Marijuana side effects also wreak havoc on the brain when the drug is used habitually. The natural chemical balance of the brain is disrupted affecting the pleasure centers and regulatory systems. The ability to learn, remember and adapt quickly to changes is impaired by marijuana use. Depression often occurs with marijuana usage, which feeds into the cycle of more drug use to treat the pain created by drug use. This cycle of addiction is very powerful and users soon find that they cannot stop using the drug even if they want to.
Marijuana addiction is a progressive disease and marijuana side effects include withdrawal and obsessive thought with the drug when it is not made available. Addiction is identified as a compulsive, uncontrollable craving for the drug even with pending negative consequences. Often users will attempt to stop smoking marijuana for an important event such as a job interview or court hearing and find themselves using very close or just before the event. This act goes beyond a flexing of willpower. This describes being enveloped by a disease that has taken control and needs to be treated.
Spencer Recovery Centers has been successfully treating the disease of marijuana addiction for many years. Nationwide, intake for marijuana addiction has doubled for drug rehabilitation facilities. Many people are realizing that marijuana side effects are not to be taken lightly and need to be addressed by professionals.
Spencer Recovery Centers brings together the best treatments of the medical community and the therapeutic sciences. Our professional staff and facilities have treated thousands of clients suffering from the effects of marijuana addiction. We have also conducted many successful interventions on initially reluctant clients who have gone on to live sober lives. Recovery does not need to be fully accepting at first to be effective. But it does take action so call us today for a private consultation of our services.
http://www.marijuana-addiction.net/marijuana-side-effects.htm
Marijuana side effects come from smoking or consuming the drug and marijuana side effects influence the mind and body of the user. Marijuana side effects can be as seemingly innocent as an increased appetite to as life threatening as lung cancer. Increased likelihood for accidents is also one of the marijuana side effects. Studies show that 6 to 11 percent of fatal accidents are contributed to by marijuana side effects. Other external marijuana side effects include legal problems, work and financial problems and troubles at home.
Marijuana is most often smoked but can be eaten or steeped in tea to drink. Most over-doses occur actually when the drug is eaten because it is easier to consume a large dose all at once. Marijuana side effects from an overdose include toxic psychosis including hallucinations, delusions and a loss of self-identification. When smoked, marijuana is rolled up into a cigarette called a joint or smoked in a pipe or water pipe called a bong. Marijuana has many street names like pot, hash, chronic and there are many paraphernalia available to smoke it.
Over 11 million people smoked marijuana last month. Many may not have severe marijuana side effects from taking the drug but many people will. Marijuana side effects include physical problems like breathing difficulties and deteriorating physical abilities. Despite a popular belief, marijuana side effects speed up the heart, blood and breathing rate. The body is taxed more and this speeds up the aging process just like methamphetamines do. The marijuana side effects from this extra exertion on the body include a higher risk for lung cancer, heart attacks and strokes.
Marijuana side effects also wreak havoc on the brain when the drug is used habitually. The natural chemical balance of the brain is disrupted affecting the pleasure centers and regulatory systems. The ability to learn, remember and adapt quickly to changes is impaired by marijuana use. Depression often occurs with marijuana usage, which feeds into the cycle of more drug use to treat the pain created by drug use. This cycle of addiction is very powerful and users soon find that they cannot stop using the drug even if they want to.
Marijuana addiction is a progressive disease and marijuana side effects include withdrawal and obsessive thought with the drug when it is not made available. Addiction is identified as a compulsive, uncontrollable craving for the drug even with pending negative consequences. Often users will attempt to stop smoking marijuana for an important event such as a job interview or court hearing and find themselves using very close or just before the event. This act goes beyond a flexing of willpower. This describes being enveloped by a disease that has taken control and needs to be treated.
Spencer Recovery Centers has been successfully treating the disease of marijuana addiction for many years. Nationwide, intake for marijuana addiction has doubled for drug rehabilitation facilities. Many people are realizing that marijuana side effects are not to be taken lightly and need to be addressed by professionals.
Spencer Recovery Centers brings together the best treatments of the medical community and the therapeutic sciences. Our professional staff and facilities have treated thousands of clients suffering from the effects of marijuana addiction. We have also conducted many successful interventions on initially reluctant clients who have gone on to live sober lives. Recovery does not need to be fully accepting at first to be effective. But it does take action so call us today for a private consultation of our services.
rock climbing and water skiining can be very dangerous. I can't imagine anything more dangerous than parachute jumping. come to think of it bungee jumping is dangerous too. also hop skotch can lead to broken fingers and arms too. :lsvader:
now, I don't jump out of airplanes, nor do i water ski and I don't play hopskotch... and I also do not smoke pot.
should the government outlaw all these things that are dangerous???
also, going to schurch could be dangerous, a person could slip and fall on wet pavement.
should going to church also be illegal???
TaylorHicksRocks
04-22-2008, 05:28 PM
the problem with this world is that people want to impose thier views on everyone else. some people would rather that people with MS torture themselves with painful bee stings than to allow them have something that would be a lot less painful.
this is just being selfish and uncaring about anyone else.
if that is the view of the churches, I am glad that I am not part of any organized church.
What about the people allergic to bee stings....Such as myself and I have MS.....God created everything on this planet! I do have some maijuana soaking in rubbing alcohol for my muscles.....
Slimey
04-23-2008, 08:30 AM
@ Feisty & ktl
You guys must have had some really bad experiences with churches. That sucks and makes me feel terrible and angry at the people that influenced your experiences.
I don't know what "church" you're referring to, but it sure isn't mine. I have never heard of any church teaching that the devil planted pot (honestly it reminds me of Bobby Boucher's mom from "The Waterboy"). I haven't heard that because it is against scripture and isn't in the bible. And I'm sure as hell not a blind follower.
Anyways, I'm sorry for the things that "churches" have done to you, but it wasn't me or my church.
TaylorHicksRocks
04-23-2008, 09:16 AM
@ Feisty & ktl
You guys must have had some really bad experiences with churches. That sucks and makes me feel terrible and angry at the people that influenced your experiences.
I don't know what "church" you're referring to, but it sure isn't mine. I have never heard of any church teaching that the devil planted pot (honestly it reminds me of Bobby Boucher's mom from "The Waterboy"). I haven't heard that because it is against scripture and isn't in the bible. And I'm sure as hell not a blind follower.
Anyways, I'm sorry for the things that "churches" have done to you, but it wasn't me or my church.
I have not attended a Church with others judging in along time perhaps when I was a child....The Church we attended in Sparks NV was awesome accepted everyone! I thought it was cool that they had signs that said Motorcycle parking only...Bikers went to our church in their leathers, long hair and tattoos....The Church I attend now is amazing as well we have homeless people in the congregation as well as some other folks people wouldn't think would be Christians.....We are all children of God and that is my belief....
Slimey
04-23-2008, 10:49 AM
Here's a book on the subject :)
http://justaplant.com/
@ Feisty & ktl
You guys must have had some really bad experiences with churches. That sucks and makes me feel terrible and angry at the people that influenced your experiences.
I don't know what "church" you're referring to, but it sure isn't mine. I have never heard of any church teaching that the devil planted pot (honestly it reminds me of Bobby Boucher's mom from "The Waterboy"). I haven't heard that because it is against scripture and isn't in the bible. And I'm sure as hell not a blind follower.
Anyways, I'm sorry for the things that "churches" have done to you, but it wasn't me or my church.
I am glad that you have a church that you like.
One of the many reasons I do not like churches is because when I said to a preacher that Jesus said..
"Beware of the scribes that like to walk around in long robes and like respectful greetings in the market places and chief seats in the synagogues and places of honor at banquets, but yet who devour widow's houses, and for appearances sake offer long prayers, for these will receive greater condemnation.." Mark 12-38.......
and I asked him did that mean that banks should be told not to foreclose on people's property???...
his response was that churches should not tell people what to do... I then reminded him that churches do tell people not to drink.. etc... should not churches also tell them what Jesus said about having compassion for the poor?
he had no answer for my question.
and today with so many in danger in losing their homes, I think what Jesus said still holds true.
when it comes to certain things, the churches can very vocal but when it comes to other things, the churches can be silent.
They can decide if they want to preach what Jesus said or not, but until they say what Jesus said, I shall not go to church.
If your church tells the rich bankers not to foreclose on people' homes and keeps in accordance with Jesus' teachings, then you have a real good church.
I have yet to find a church that does that.
Slimey
04-23-2008, 11:48 AM
I don't think that verse says anything along those lines.
"Scribe" was a teacher of religious law then, so the verse is saying to beware of conceited and self serving priests or pastors that are overly concerned with their appearances and social status, but will devour widow's houses. Devour widow's houses probably means something along the lines of conning them out of enough money to make them lose their house.
Eileenacanadian
04-23-2008, 11:49 AM
I don't like it when people say that if you are this way you are doomed to hell or if you believe this you are doomed. Then those same people say awful things to people and believe with all their heart that they aren't sinners and they have an open gate to heaven. That I can't handle. They are so blind sided that you can't talk sense into them, totally narrow minded.
I don't think that verse says anything along those lines.
"Scribe" was a teacher of religious law then, so the verse is saying to beware of conceited and self serving priests or pastors that are overly concerned with their appearances and social status, but will devour widow's houses. Devour widow's houses probably means something along the lines of conning them out of enough money to make them lose their house.
I think Jesus was saying that everyone should be caring and not try to devour anyone's homes. This includes scribes and bankers.
Eileenacanadian
04-23-2008, 12:26 PM
Tom Cruise is the perfect Label for medical pot. His laugh is priceless. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6qH_-0fY_Y
Maisha
04-23-2008, 08:06 PM
what is a pothead?
TaylorHicksRocks
04-23-2008, 08:10 PM
what is a pothead?
I thought you said you were a nurse and that your cousins had some trouble when it came to pot.....
Let's face it. Most people find it easier to condemn everything they don't understand, rather than trying to reason it out logically. It must just all belong to the devil! Well, today it is pot, but once upon a time, it was dancing, reading, people with different skin colors..................IMO, the church, ANY church, if full of BS. I am sorry if that offended anyone, but it isn't a direct attack on you.
Well, that's because every church is made up of people. And people are seriously messed up. I don't find it shocking that we, as limited creatures we are, attempt to grasp the infinite and don't get it right. Even Jesus foretold that evil (even vioilent) men would invade the church. It's not due to a bad message. It's the fact that the men who attempt to deliver it can't handle something that's so much bigger than they are.
Feisty Kitty
04-25-2008, 09:46 AM
http://www.marijuana-addiction.net/marijuana-side-effects.htm
Marijuana side effects come from smoking or consuming the drug and marijuana side effects influence the mind and body of the user. Marijuana side effects can be as seemingly innocent as an increased appetite to as life threatening as lung cancer. Increased likelihood for accidents is also one of the marijuana side effects. Studies show that 6 to 11 percent of fatal accidents are contributed to by marijuana side effects. Other external marijuana side effects include legal problems, work and financial problems and troubles at home.
Marijuana is most often smoked but can be eaten or steeped in tea to drink. Most over-doses occur actually when the drug is eaten because it is easier to consume a large dose all at once. Marijuana side effects from an overdose include toxic psychosis including hallucinations, delusions and a loss of self-identification. When smoked, marijuana is rolled up into a cigarette called a joint or smoked in a pipe or water pipe called a bong. Marijuana has many street names like pot, hash, chronic and there are many paraphernalia available to smoke it.
Over 11 million people smoked marijuana last month. Many may not have severe marijuana side effects from taking the drug but many people will. Marijuana side effects include physical problems like breathing difficulties and deteriorating physical abilities. Despite a popular belief, marijuana side effects speed up the heart, blood and breathing rate. The body is taxed more and this speeds up the aging process just like methamphetamines do. The marijuana side effects from this extra exertion on the body include a higher risk for lung cancer, heart attacks and strokes.
Marijuana side effects also wreak havoc on the brain when the drug is used habitually. The natural chemical balance of the brain is disrupted affecting the pleasure centers and regulatory systems. The ability to learn, remember and adapt quickly to changes is impaired by marijuana use. Depression often occurs with marijuana usage, which feeds into the cycle of more drug use to treat the pain created by drug use. This cycle of addiction is very powerful and users soon find that they cannot stop using the drug even if they want to.
Marijuana addiction is a progressive disease and marijuana side effects include withdrawal and obsessive thought with the drug when it is not made available. Addiction is identified as a compulsive, uncontrollable craving for the drug even with pending negative consequences. Often users will attempt to stop smoking marijuana for an important event such as a job interview or court hearing and find themselves using very close or just before the event. This act goes beyond a flexing of willpower. This describes being enveloped by a disease that has taken control and needs to be treated.
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OMG! You quoted an ADVERTISMENT for a rehab center as a credible source!:yelrotflm
I guess we should all believe everything we see in commercials too! :yelrotflm:rolleyes::yelrotflm
You DON'T know what a pothead is, but you are a nurse, and tout the virtues of keeping pot illegal? I don't buy it. Most nurses are completely in favor of the legalization of marijuana, understanding its incredible benefits to their patients, as well as the horrific side affects of the drugs they currently must administer in lue of the availability and legality of marijuana.
However, this is an anonymous forum, so I guess we can all just be whomever we want. Hey guys, guess what? Today I am going to be the Queen of England! (hehehe)
Feisty Kitty
04-25-2008, 09:54 AM
rock climbing and water skiining can be very dangerous. I can't imagine anything more dangerous than parachute jumping. come to think of it bungee jumping is dangerous too. also hop skotch can lead to broken fingers and arms too. :lsvader:
now, I don't jump out of airplanes, nor do i water ski and I don't play hopskotch... and I also do not smoke pot.
should the government outlaw all these things that are dangerous???
also, going to schurch could be dangerous, a person could slip and fall on wet pavement.
should going to church also be illegal???
WORD!
People should be able to make their own choices, and deal with their own consequences. If you can't hack it, perhaps the world doesn't need you. Sorry, but this planet is way overpopulated with self indulgent fools. Just an opinion:angel2:
Of course, maybe I am one of them! Tee Hee!!! (for you, Smiley!)
Feisty Kitty
04-25-2008, 10:30 AM
@ Feisty & ktl
You guys must have had some really bad experiences with churches. That sucks and makes me feel terrible and angry at the people that influenced your experiences.
I don't know what "church" you're referring to, but it sure isn't mine. I have never heard of any church teaching that the devil planted pot (honestly it reminds me of Bobby Boucher's mom from "The Waterboy"). I haven't heard that because it is against scripture and isn't in the bible. And I'm sure as hell not a blind follower.
Anyways, I'm sorry for the things that "churches" have done to you, but it wasn't me or my church.
No offense, but of course it did. Perhaps not your particular congregation, but your denomination sure has. EVERY RELIGIOUS GROUP has perpetuated a crime against humanity. Anyone who does not believe me then A. Has not studied their history, and B. Is totally deluded! Religion is BS, all religion, period! The Bible, The Book of Mormon, The Koran, Bagavadguitta (spell?), Pentatuch, Runes, Heirogliphs, Runes, tea leaves and crytals are BS. All these placebos were given their power by men, men who sought control over others. And the weak follow willingly. They always have and they always will. They don't need to smoke pot. Religion is, after all, the opiate of the masses. They take their preachers advice instead of getting blazed.
It isn't just about what the church has done to me. It is about what it has always done, and continues to do, in the name of power and control, not spirituality.
However, I have said this a gazillion times on this forum. Everyone has the right to believe in what they wish. I really am so tired of beating this horse. It's dead. Let's get back to talkin' 'bout ganja. This whole religion thing makes me want to get stoned!
Slimey
04-25-2008, 10:58 AM
No offense, but of course it did. Perhaps not your particular congregation, but your denomination sure has. EVERY RELIGIOUS GROUP has perpetuated a crime against humanity. Anyone who does not believe me then A. Has not studied their history, and B. Is totally deluded! Religion is BS, all religion, period! The Bible, The Book of Mormon, The Koran, Bagavadguitta (spell?), Pentatuch, Runes, Heirogliphs, Runes, tea leaves and crytals are BS. All these placebos were given their power by men, men who sought control over others. And the weak follow willingly. They always have and they always will. They don't need to smoke pot. Religion is, after all, the opiate of the masses. They take their preachers advice instead of getting blazed.
It isn't just about what the church has done to me. It is about what it has always done, and continues to do, in the name of power and control, not spirituality.
However, I have said this a gazillion times on this forum. Everyone has the right to believe in what they wish. I really am so tired of beating this horse. It's dead. Let's get back to talkin' 'bout ganja. This whole religion thing makes me want to get stoned!
Wow. Why do you choose to be so abrasive? You say blanketed things like "anyone who does not believe me" and "all religion is bs", but you begin you statement with "No offense"? Are you serious?
I'll agree with you that there is no point in continuing this conversation.
Feisty Kitty
04-25-2008, 10:58 AM
I am glad that you have a church that you like.
One of the many reasons I do not like churches is because when I said to a preacher that Jesus said..
"Beware of the scribes that like to walk around in long robes and like respectful greetings in the market places and chief seats in the synagogues and places of honor at banquets, but yet who devour widow's houses, and for appearances sake offer long prayers, for these will receive greater condemnation.." Mark 12-38.......
and I asked him did that mean that banks should be told not to foreclose on people's property???...
his response was that churches should not tell people what to do... I then reminded him that churches do tell people not to drink.. etc... should not churches also tell them what Jesus said about having compassion for the poor?
he had no answer for my question.
and today with so many in danger in losing their homes, I think what Jesus said still holds true.
when it comes to certain things, the churches can very vocal but when it comes to other things, the churches can be silent.
They can decide if they want to preach what Jesus said or not, but until they say what Jesus said, I shall not go to church.
If your church tells the rich bankers not to foreclose on people' homes and keeps in accordance with Jesus' teachings, then you have a real good church.
I have yet to find a church that does that.
This verse is amazing. It is telling people not to trust those in positions of high power, such as politicians, monarchs, and ESPECIALLY the clergy. How ironic that most people have heard and will hear it spoken from the very person it warns them against, their pastor.
The verse is saying exactly what I have been saying, that those in powerful positions will seek to destroy the weak for their own gains, so beware!:laugh:
Feisty Kitty
04-25-2008, 11:02 AM
Well, that's because every church is made up of people. And people are seriously messed up. I don't find it shocking that we, as limited creatures we are, attempt to grasp the infinite and don't get it right. Even Jesus foretold that evil (even vioilent) men would invade the church. It's not due to a bad message. It's the fact that the men who attempt to deliver it can't handle something that's so much bigger than they are.
Exactly! The church is made up of and run by people! It will always be an F-ed up place because man is fallable, and will therefore F up anything he touches. The church uses the Bible, a religious text written and compiled by MEN, as a reference for how to run their church. Again, fallibility. Why would anyone with that knowledge allow their lives to be in anyway controlled by something so obviously flawed?:confused:
Feisty Kitty
04-25-2008, 11:11 AM
Wow. Why do you choose to be so abrasive? You say blanketed things like "anyone who does not believe me" and "all religion is bs", but you begin you statement with "No offense"? Are you serious?
I'll agree with you that there is no point in continuing this conversation.
There is nothing abrasive about stating a fact. All religions have committed crimes against humanity. That can be proven by historical documentation. I wasn't being abrasive. You are new here, so let me just restate what I have before. I respect faith a great deal, but have none. I find organized religion deplorable. The two are very different things.
Exactly! The church is made up of and run by people! It will always be an F-ed up place because man is fallable, and will therefore F up anything he touches. The church uses the Bible, a religious text written and compiled by MEN, as a reference for how to run their church. Again, fallibility. Why would anyone with that knowledge allow their lives to be in anyway controlled by something so obviously flawed?:confused:
Which is why we're supposed to 'cut out the middle man' and go directly to Him. We're called to a personal relationship. A personal relationship does not involve an intermediary. But far too many people view their pastor/preacher/bishop/whatever as the one who 'talks to God' for them. When you do that you look up to a man (mistake #1) and put your trust in a man (repeat and enhancement of said mistake) and remove God from the #1 spot (prohibited by commandment #1). So many people think that they can live their lives however they want and leave the "God stuff" to the pastor and the staff at the church. But it wasn't His plan in the beginning, in the time of Christ (hence many of his admonitions against following the preachers in His day), and it's not in His plan today. "Church" is supposed to be a time of corporate worship, not the only time of worship. There's only One man in whom we're supposed to place our faith, and the pastor at the local church ain't him.
One Man
Then again, we're getting off the topic of this thread. So who's got a light? Spark it up dude! :D
Slimey
04-25-2008, 11:22 AM
There is nothing abrasive about stating a fact. All religions have committed crimes against humanity. That can be proven by historical documentation. I wasn't being abrasive. You are new here, so let me just restate what I have before. I respect faith a great deal, but have none. I find organized religion deplorable. The two are very different things.
The fact wasn't abrasive. I was referring to you calling all religion bs and in another post of yours saying that perhaps the world doesn't need you. Come on now, those statements are very abrasive. Maybe most of the time you aren't, but I read those two in a row.
Feisty Kitty
04-25-2008, 11:41 AM
Well, I just read in another thread that you stated, "everything offends someone". I am terribly sorry that that offended you. However, I can back it up with historical facts, and it wasn't a personal attack against you in any way. If what I say offends you, don't read my posts.
The thing about the world doesn't need you was meant in jest. Perhaps I need to put a smiley face next to it so people will know it isn't meant to be mean. Most people here know my snarky writing isn't really isn't based in cruelty. Hopefully you will soon see that too.
X1, the minute you open your Bible, you have put the middle man right back between you and god. The Bible was written by the biggest offenders in middle man history!
Feisty Kitty
04-25-2008, 11:48 AM
Then again, we're getting off the topic of this thread. So who's got a light? Spark it up dude! :D
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish, but something tells me I would get fired...................................The school district seems to look poorly on their teachers being under the influence of mind altering substances whilst educating their pupils:p
I really don't smoke anymore, but there are many beers with my name on them come about 10pm. We wrap our play tonight, and after two 10 hour days and three 13 hour days, and about 4 hours of sleep last night, I am going to be ready to relax with a mind altering substance. Just two more shows......just two more shows......just two more shows..........................
Well, I just read in another thread that you stated, "everything offends someone". I am terribly sorry that that offended you. However, I can back it up with historical facts, and it wasn't a personal attack against you in any way. If what I say offends you, don't read my posts.
The thing about the world doesn't need you was meant in jest. Perhaps I need to put a smiley face next to it so people will know it isn't meant to be mean. Most people here know my snarky writing isn't really isn't based in cruelty. Hopefully you will soon see that too.
X1, the minute you open your Bible, you have put the middle man right back between you and god. The Bible was written by the biggest offenders in middle man history!
when I think of historical facts I think of witch burnings, hanging of falsely condemned people by the self righteous church...
Slimey
04-25-2008, 12:00 PM
Well, I just read in another thread that you stated, "everything offends someone". I am terribly sorry that that offended you. However, I can back it up with historical facts, and it wasn't a personal attack against you in any way. If what I say offends you, don't read my posts.
The thing about the world doesn't need you was meant in jest. Perhaps I need to put a smiley face next to it so people will know it isn't meant to be mean. Most people here know my snarky writing isn't really isn't based in cruelty. Hopefully you will soon see that too.
X1, the minute you open your Bible, you have put the middle man right back between you and god. The Bible was written by the biggest offenders in middle man history!
I'm not offended. It takes a lot to offend me. Intention doesn't come across the internet very well. So I'm sorry I misunderstood you as being cruel. Anyways, we probably won't ever agree on this.
Legalize Weed!
Feisty Kitty
04-25-2008, 12:59 PM
Yes, legalize it! Woo Hoo!
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish, but something tells me I would get fired...................................The school district seems to look poorly on their teachers being under the influence of mind altering substances whilst educating their pupils:p
I really don't smoke anymore, but there are many beers with my name on them come about 10pm. We wrap our play tonight, and after two 10 hour days and three 13 hour days, and about 4 hours of sleep last night, I am going to be ready to relax with a mind altering substance. Just two more shows......just two more shows......just two more shows..........................
You teachers probably have a vending machine in the lounge.......... :D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oe_6opRXOcg
Maisha
04-25-2008, 01:55 PM
leglise cocaine and herione and meth crystals too.let the children snif glue if they want to.it will help get my kin folks out of prison!:beerchug:
Yes, legalize it! Woo Hoo!
Then you can drive to work like this?
Up In Smoke
if an 18 year old boy is arrested for having marijuana, he could go to jail for 5 years. By the time he gets out, he would be a hardened criminal... and because of the jail snentence, may find it hard to get a job.
He may use the skills he learned in jail to commit more violent crimes.
having marijuana to be a criminal offense in the long run hurts society, by increasing the number of criminals on the streets.
however because of the powers that be, marijuana probably will never be legalized.
X1, the minute you open your Bible, you have put the middle man right back between you and god. The Bible was written by the biggest offenders in middle man history!
Well, Paul did say he was 'the chief of all sinners'. Then again, I don't know if he smoked reefer or not.................
Eileenacanadian
04-25-2008, 03:36 PM
I read a good sign on a church lawn today and it said "God is at the end of your rope." I liked that.
TaylorHicksRocks
04-25-2008, 10:36 PM
leglise cocaine and herione and meth crystals too.let the children snif glue if they want to.it will help get my kin folks out of prison!:beerchug:
Yeah the problem with this is all these drugs are so much worse...Pot is not nearly as bad as alcohol.....Wow you seem to have a lot of relatives in trouble with drugs...
Maisha
04-26-2008, 03:51 AM
Today I am going to be the Queen of England! (hehehe)
thats nothin to be ashame of fk.i think youre pretty :)
http://media.podhoster.com/dalight/images/queencamera200406_450x450.jpg
Maisha
04-26-2008, 03:56 AM
leglise cocaine and herione and meth crystals too.let the children snif glue if they want to.it will help get my kin folks out of prison!:beerchug:
Yeah the problem with this is all these drugs are so much worse...
not if you do a litle bit at a time taylorhickrock.that what my cousin say,the one in prison. :rolleyes:
Eileenacanadian
04-26-2008, 12:45 PM
thats nothin to be ashame of fk.i think youre pretty :)
http://media.podhoster.com/dalight/images/queencamera200406_450x450.jpg
A little American Idol stress can do that to one's complexion.
TaylorHicksRocks
04-26-2008, 04:42 PM
not if you do a litle bit at a time taylorhickrock.that what my cousin say,the one in prison. :rolleyes:
Your posts are getting more and more unreadable....:confused:
Maisha
04-27-2008, 11:25 AM
A little American Idol stress can do that to one's complexion.
so will smokin that reefer.
Eileenacanadian
04-27-2008, 08:47 PM
so will smokin that reefer.
Feisty is naturally Feisty, she isn't puffin on no reef!
Maisha
04-28-2008, 07:59 AM
You DON'T know what a pothead is, but you are a nurse, and tout the virtues of keeping pot illegal?
did i say din't know what a pothead is ?????? i was asking any one who wanted to answer a question!!!!!!!!!
Most nurses are completely in favor of the legalization of marijuana(hehehe)
have all nusres been polled ????? maybe where you life, not in the part of the world i resides.nurses i work with are oppose to it.
I don't buy it.
i do not appreciate being call a liar.i have not personally attack you.
Maisha
04-28-2008, 08:04 AM
so will smokin that reefer.
Feisty is naturally Feisty, she isn't puffin on no reef!
eileen,i din't say she puff on weeds.its my opinion it can age you face quicker like the queen face.
Maisha
04-28-2008, 08:07 AM
I thought you said you were a nurse and that your cousins had some trouble when it came to pot.....
yes i did say that.
Maisha
04-28-2008, 08:11 AM
what is a pothead?
what is a pothead?
Maisha
04-28-2008, 08:21 AM
Your posts are getting more and more unreadable....:confused:
eileen and fk seem to be doin ok thr.i am sorry.my typin skils and spellin itn as good as yours. will u accept my apology?:)
Eileenacanadian
04-28-2008, 10:29 AM
eileen,i din't say she puff on weeds.its my opinion it can age you face quicker like the queen face.
Relax.............Stress will age you too.
Maisha
04-28-2008, 10:53 AM
Relax.............Stress will age you too.
eileen you make me smile:).i'm so glad you talk with me.i bet you make lot a people smile you come in contact with.:)
i dont know if you have ever been inside a black church,and see the way we worship god.i posted a video in the christian music thread.the church in the video is veery similar to mine,in the south.
TaylorHicksRocks
04-28-2008, 12:49 PM
eileen and fk seem to be doin ok thr.i am sorry.my typin skils and spellin itn as good as yours. will u accept my apology?:)
Maisha Maisha Maisha I was merely making an observation no need to apologize....In fact what happened to the young lady that pointed out my mistakes?
Feisty Kitty
04-28-2008, 01:44 PM
thats nothin to be ashame of fk.i think youre pretty :)
http://media.podhoster.com/dalight/images/queencamera200406_450x450.jpg
Clearly you didn't understand the joke.
Clearly you didn't understand the joke.
God Save the Queen......... (and I bet these guys smoked weed)
God Save the Queen
TaylorHicksRocks
04-28-2008, 06:38 PM
Hahaha I bet they did too!!!!
And I wonder if El Chupacabra has smoked weed in his day? Probably so, given all that time in the jungles of Central America.................
TaylorHicksRocks
04-29-2008, 01:08 PM
And I wonder if El Chupacabra has smoked weed in his day? Probably so, given all that time in the jungles of Central America.................
Oh you know it!!!! He is probably puffing away all day which is why he is eating goats all night...:eek:
Guess it affects Chupi differently. Most folks just want a bag of Doritos and a Mountain Dew after having a fatty.
Slimey
04-29-2008, 04:24 PM
Guess it affects Chupi differently. Most folks just want a bag of Doritos and a Mountain Dew after having a fatty.
I always thought of El Chupacabra as more of a crazy hyper tequila drinker than a pot smoker. Now Sasquatch, on the other hand, is more of the laid back hippie smoker type.
TaylorHicksRocks
04-29-2008, 05:30 PM
I always thought of El Chupacabra as more of a crazy hyper tequila drinker than a pot smoker. Now Sasquatch, on the other hand, is more of the laid back hippie smoker type.
Perhaps they are both hippie types....
I always thought of El Chupacabra as more of a crazy hyper tequila drinker than a pot smoker. Now Sasquatch, on the other hand, is more of the laid back hippie smoker type.
Yeah, Sasquatch does live up in the Pacific NW with all those aging hippies in Seattle. A pothead no doubt..................
Feisty Kitty
05-01-2008, 09:44 AM
I always thought of El Chupacabra as more of a crazy hyper tequila drinker than a pot smoker. Now Sasquatch, on the other hand, is more of the laid back hippie smoker type.
I love that ficticious characters have personalities, and that your descriptions made me say to myself, yeah, that is how I see them. AWESOME! You made me laugh out loud.
Feisty Kitty
05-01-2008, 10:07 AM
not if you do a litle bit at a time taylorhickrock.that what my cousin say,the one in prison. :rolleyes:
Well, some people have addictive personalities, and yes, they will constantly become addicted to different things. Not all people are like this. Your cousin apparently is, but like you said about my comment about nurses, don't make a judgement about something based on the opinion of a few. Your cousin is one person, who clearly cannot control him/herself. That in no way changes the fact that marijuana is a safer, more effective medecine than many on the market today.
I have met a good deal of nurses in my day, both socially and in my work. Most are totally for the legalization of MEDICAL marijuana. No one is suggesting we make it available to kids. Gov't. regulated weed would be harder for kids to get their hands on, just like alcohol. It works in the Netherlands quite well, but I am sure you have done no research in that area. Also, you clearly asked, twice now, what is a pothead? A nurse who is unaware of what a pothead is? I don't buy it. Sorry, but I don't. That doesn't mean I am calling you a liar. I am not. I just find too many contradictions within what you say, as well as how you type it. I don't buy in to it at all.
Slimey
05-01-2008, 11:22 AM
This is interesting - Study Finds no Cancer Connection (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html?referrer=digg)
"What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."
I always wonder how you sign up to be a test subject for those :)
TaylorHicksRocks
05-01-2008, 10:27 PM
Well, some people have addictive personalities, and yes, they will constantly become addicted to different things. Not all people are like this. Your cousin apparently is, but like you said about my comment about nurses, don't make a judgement about something based on the opinion of a few. Your cousin is one person, who clearly cannot control him/herself. That in no way changes the fact that marijuana is a safer, more effective medecine than many on the market today.
I have met a good deal of nurses in my day, both socially and in my work. Most are totally for the legalization of MEDICAL marijuana. No one is suggesting we make it available to kids. Gov't. regulated weed would be harder for kids to get their hands on, just like alcohol. It works in the Netherlands quite well, but I am sure you have done no research in that area. Also, you clearly asked, twice now, what is a pothead? A nurse who is unaware of what a pothead is? I don't buy it. Sorry, but I don't. That doesn't mean I am calling you a liar. I am not. I just find too many contradictions within what you say, as well as how you type it. I don't buy in to it at all.
Very well said Feisty!!!!!
This is interesting - Study Finds no Cancer Connection (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html?referrer=digg)
I always wonder how you sign up to be a test subject for those :)
Take up snowboarding? :D
Feisty Kitty
05-03-2008, 09:24 PM
Very well said Feisty!!!!!
Thank you! I try.
Lancelot of Camelot
05-04-2008, 06:34 AM
Look you can make all the arguments you want about this subject but their is no way you can come up with a difinitive answer. For every arguement for marijuana there is an equally strong arguement against it. Some people can certainly use it with minimal negative affects and maybe even the occasional positive effect but their are many who have been destroyed by marijuana. My attitude as a person who has seen many people I love have their lives destroyed by chemicals is when in doubt just stay away. I can drink or smoke dope with minimum negative affects but what about those around me. I just see alcohol and marijuana as the cons far outweigh the pros. The only things that would be positive about legalization is if it resulted in less use which I doubt and less criminal activity which of course it would. Legalization or not isn't the best question regarding marijuana. The best question would be "To use or not to use?". I think the best answer all things considered is the same answer I give for alcohol. It is better not to use.
IdolMe
05-05-2008, 02:15 PM
It might help the economy.... people would by more munchies! :cool_shad
TaylorHicksRocks
05-05-2008, 04:24 PM
It might help the economy.... people would by more munchies! :cool_shad
Lol but then there would be more people having an increased waist line too....
Maisha
05-07-2008, 10:34 PM
many california pothead are goin threw withdrawel after that big drug bust.praise jesus hallejuh!!! good triuph over evil !!!! :):beerchug:
Eileenacanadian
05-08-2008, 01:27 AM
I ran into an old friend of mine who used to be a heavy pot smoker back in the day. Ironically, he now cleans out grow-ops for a living.
Slimey
05-08-2008, 07:42 AM
Second Largest US Physicians Group Endorses Medical Marijuana (http://www.naturalnews.com/023172.html)
Sharra
05-09-2008, 11:02 AM
I'm not sure because there are positive and negative aspects to it...just like alcohol. I'm mainly against it because I do believe it can act as a gateway drug however I'm for it because it helps people medically!!
Eileenacanadian
05-09-2008, 11:46 AM
a relative of mine is addicted to pot. It did almost lead him to harder drugs, eventually, but he snapped out of the direction he was taking before it was too late. Now he's just a happy go lucky pot smoker, doesn't drink. I myself can't smoke it. Makes me to paranoid or negative. Sure made me sleep well though....
I'd rather that it was legalized and regulated. Once the gub-mint got their mits into it and started taxing the daylights out of it, it would be too expensive for kids to go out and buy (for the most part). Some would still get it, just like some get alcohol now. But I've never noticed someone stoned on pot being as incoherent or incapacitated as someone who was drunk. And pot doesn't damage your liver.
Me personally, I'd rather have a good glass of wine, so I could care less for it. But if someone wants to have a burger and then have a fatty afterward, let it be their choice. But it's nowhere near as physically damaging as is alcohol.
Slimey
05-09-2008, 05:47 PM
Me personally, I'd rather have a good glass of wine, so I could care less for it. But if someone wants to have a burger and then have a fatty afterward, let it be their choice. But it's nowhere near as physically damaging as is alcohol.
They better smoke that fatty before they eat that burger or else they'll be getting another burger :p
Eileenacanadian
05-09-2008, 05:49 PM
once in awhile it sure brought on a good laugh. I liked the laugh attacks.
Feisty Kitty
05-15-2008, 01:27 PM
They better smoke that fatty before they eat that burger or else they'll be getting another burger :p
Exactly!:bravo:
If I still smoked I would be the fattest Piece o' crap on the planet! It always gave me the craziest munchies.
Eileenacanadian
05-15-2008, 01:49 PM
when I was a teenager i came home after smoking a fatty and my mom, bless her heart, had just bought these little frozen quiche pies. I hoovered those puppies down and mom always loved it when we ate well so she was pleased. I told her to buy more, as they were fantastic. Poor mom stocked up and I tried them later without the fatty and they were disgusting. They went to waste. Wonder why pot makes everything taste like it came from a 5 star restaurant lol???
Feisty Kitty
05-15-2008, 01:56 PM
That is a cute story. I don't know, but it just does!
TaylorHicksRocks
05-15-2008, 06:58 PM
My mom told me that she liked me better after I had had a little wacky weed...Then I had told tell her why she liked me better and she said well get more you are more pleasant to be around....What was she thinking I would never tell my son that her would see my wrath..