How fast do you want to see Bucky go?

[cloie4me]

I believe the winner of American Idol will partly be the victor because of who got the boot and in what order. I think we all pretty much agree that when a person leaves the show it strenghtens another. If Bucky leaves will Kellie get his votes? Will that then give her enough votes to compete with Katharine? If we can keep the votes split, we can almost buy their tickets home.

I like Bucky, He's not in my favorite three, but have "threw him a bone" from time to time. But I think his leaving will give way to many votes to someone we dont want to see win.(most of us)

Last year we had two rockers, both got alot of votes, but when one left, there was a great power shift. So on the flip side, do we give up one of our favorites to give the other a greater chance?

I think we have the power to keep votes split and strenghten contestants. But its a fine line that could bite us in the a**

[bigd13]

I don't want to see Bucky go until Kellie goes. Bucky is just alright in my opinion, but I would much rather have him there than Kellie. I don't know what people see in Kellie, she's cute sometimes, but it's gets really annoying after a while. I know if Bucky goes next week, then Ace will go after him, then after that I have no idea who's going to go home. Hopefully Kellie and not Bucky goes home next week even though they are doing their music genre, Country.

[sydneylovesace]

There's a lot of truth to this. The order of the contestants going home does shift some votes. How can I get the votes shifted Ace's way! We all know that
"sydneylovesace"!

[Skate]

Well, it's too bad I can't vote but I agree. Bucky's lousy to me but I'd really rather have him on the show, compared to kellie. She really has to go.

[lovetheladies]

I would like to see a few high rollers get the boot. We all know certain ones will get voted off in time.

[idolsmidol]

:confused: You guys do what you want, but there is absolutely no way I can vote for Bucky or for Kelly. I don't think just because they both sing country they will necessarily inherit the other's votes. Kellie is appealing to the guys who always go for the dumb blonde, and I am guessing that Bucky's fans are young southern rock/C&W beer drinking guys. Maybe you do have something there...they probably share the same fan base. Even saying that I cannot bring myself to vote for either one of them. In a perfect world they would be the next two to go.

[cloie4me]

oh, Im not either, didnt mean to imply that I was. Just interesting how a series of events can change everything.

[AbsentElement]

There undoubtedly is some impact of the votes shifting as contestants are eliminated. It certainly explains why some people stay around longer than others, but we're talking mostly about votes shifting around the 'middle-of-the-pack' contestants.

After thinking about it a little deeper, does it really matter at this stage? Probably not, unless you're really pulling for one of those in the middle-of-the-pack to actually win. By middle of the pack, I mean those remaining contestants that have turned up in the bottom three or that have turned over consistently mediocre technical performances (although, in my opinion, Katharine seems to be the exception to this definition).

Sure, there are some we'd rather see finish up better than others, but in the end, it's all about who wins. I think the vote shifting doesn't matter so much until you get down to around the last four people.

That said, I can see how a majority of eliminees' votes continuously shifting primarily to one person could possibly get that person to the final four. I guess without knowing the actual vote counts, we'll never really know the degree of its impact.

[idolsmidol]

[That said, I can see how a majority of eliminees' votes continuously shifting primarily to one person could possibly get that person to the final four. I guess without knowing the actual vote counts, we'll never really know the degree of its impact.]

:confused: You are so right. I wonder why the vote tally isn't given? This certainly would encourage more votes, especially if the person you are championing was in danger of going to the bottom three. And let's face it--it genrates more money for the network. So why the secrecy?

[frank]

I don't want to see Bucky go until Kellie goes.

Do you think that contestants bathroom habits should be discussed on these boards? :eek:

[cinnamocha]

There's a lot of truth to this. The order of the contestants going home does shift some votes. How can I get the votes shifted Ace's way! We all know that
"sydneylovesace"!

I would love to see Chris, Taylor, Elliott,and Bucky go and have all there votes go to ACE!

If ACE and Katherine go I will not be voting for anyone!

[cinnamocha]

I believe the winner of American Idol will partly be the victor because of who got the boot and in what order. I think we all pretty much agree that when a person leaves the show it strenghtens another. If Bucky leaves will Kellie get his votes? Will that then give her enough votes to compete with Katharine? If we can keep the votes split, we can almost buy their tickets home.

I like Bucky, He's not in my favorite three, but have "threw him a bone" from time to time. But I think his leaving will give way to many votes to someone we dont want to see win.(most of us)

Last year we had two rockers, both got alot of votes, but when one left, there was a great power shift. So on the flip side, do we give up one of our favorites to give the other a greater chance?

I think we have the power to keep votes split and strenghten contestants. But its a fine line that could bite us in the a**


I want Mandisa, Paris and Elliott to go first. Then Bucky and Chris!

[Skate]

I would love to see Chris, Taylor, Elliott,and Bucky go and have all there votes go to ACE!

If ACE and Katherine go I will not be voting for anyone!
Huh? Why?

Oh, I get it. Because Ace is hot.

Nevermind that Chris, Mandisa & Taylor can hold a tune way better than Ace can.

[borch]

I LOVE Bucky. Taylor really is my favorite, but he's not going any where! I spend all my time voting for Bucky. There is just something about him! Personally I think he's much hotter than Ace, but that is secondary to his singing talent. I guess we all have our certain music styles and thank the Lord we do or it would be a pretty boring world. I don't really believe Bucky will win this think, but I so sincerely hope that when he goes home we don't see the last of him!

[joaquim]

I want to see Bucky leave already. Folks, this is a singing competition!! Mandisa's voice is much more superior to Bucky's. It's a crime that she left before him. His voice gets raspy at times and he has no range. I watch the show with a bunch of singers/musicians/entertainers and we cringe when we hear Bucky sing. Dumb blonde act aside, Kelly's voice is much more melodic than Bucky. For the love of God, stop voting for Bucky already!!! Can anyone really see Bucky sing (badly) anything aside from country music. The others are much more versatile.

[Fuschia]

You can't compare a man's singing range to a woman's. A woman will almost always have more, thanks to the whole puberty-voice-changing thing. (Not taking into account the falsetto voice) The fact is, everyone who is on this show *can* sing, and can probably sing a hell of a lot better than most of us posting here can. The fact is, each contestant has a 'niche'. Chris is rock, Bucky and Kellie are country, Taylor is soul, Katharine is pop, Paris is R&B, and so on. They ALL have something they're best at. So claiming they should go because they're better at one particular style than another is just. plain. silly. As for saying Kellie is better than Bucky vocally... matter of opinion, dear heart. I personally think Bucky is better than Kellie. Music is relative, and no one's opinions are right or wrong. :)

[biggamejames]

I want to see Bucky leave already. Folks, this is a singing competition!! Mandisa's voice is much more superior to Bucky's. It's a crime that she left before him. His voice gets raspy at times and he has no range. I watch the show with a bunch of singers/musicians/entertainers and we cringe when we hear Bucky sing. Dumb blonde act aside, Kelly's voice is much more melodic than Bucky. For the love of God, stop voting for Bucky already!!! Can anyone really see Bucky sing (badly) anything aside from country music. The others are much more versatile.

I agree with what you're saying. The Country Music edition of AI presented Bucky the chance to DOMINATE like Kellie since it's his type of music, but he didn't distinguish himself from the field.

I also like the performance of Chris cause he did something different to show that he has the range and capability to sing something soft, and that he did very well. Katharine's always done well and I like her, too. Elliot did just okay although he is my favorite among the guys. Too bad about Mandisa, she's damn good! I'm sure she'll have a good career ahead of her.

Anyway, Bucky's deserved to lose for a while already; luckily, Lisa and Mandisa for all their talents were the last two voted out... Lisa deserved to leave cause she didn't do well enough with her talent and she chose bad songs for her. As for Mandisa, I dunno why she got the least votes... oh well, cest la vie.

[Skate]

Bucky & kellie really, really, really have to go.

They have seriously outstayed their welcome & have proven time & again that all they are capable of musically is delivering week after week of painful, torturous performances. Really, America. You deserve better than this.

[RushDog]

Once this competition is over, Bucky and Kellie are going to be laughing all the way to the bank. They'll get a recording contract, and they'll be able to record the music that they want. They'll be even better with proper guidance. Rednecks like me will buying their CD's and watching their videos on CMT.

[X1TX]

Bucky shouldn't have made the final 12. Agree that he should have dominated the C&W round, but he only turned in an average performance (some of which was off key). Mandisa has one of the best voices of the lot, but some of her downfall was poor song choice and some funky wardrobe choices. That, and as we see on this board some people vote for an AI becaus that person is 'hot', and she was not young and slim.

But RushDog is right in that Kellie and Bucky will record once the competition's over and will laugh all the way to the bank. Mandisa could cut a gospel album tomorrow. Chris will be a star whether or not he wins the contest. Katharine should be in movies as she has the talent and the looks. The "Chicken Little" guy should end up doing a sit-com some time.

[RushDog]

Good point. Some people on this forum have some weird fetishes.

[Magicmarkerman]

Bucky can no doubt sing country, and that is pretty much what he'll need to stick to... I think the other contestants with more versitility will stay in longer though.

http://www.fameassfaces.com/files/Fameassfaces.com_Caricature_of_Bucky_WEB_new_buck_ wild.jpg

[borch]

I hope Bucky is in the final three, if not the final three with Taylor taking all!

[borch]

I meant final two, sorry! Guess I am in the minority. I like all of his performances. and personally I feel he is better at southern rock than country.

[cloie4me]

I meant final two, sorry! Guess I am in the minority. I like all of his performances. and personally I feel he is better at southern rock than country.

Bucky is my 4th favorite. I cant help but like him as well. No hard feelings here if he makes it to the final weeks.

[FalseIdol]

Bucky can no doubt sing country, and that is pretty much what he'll need to stick to... I think the other contestants with more versitility will stay in longer though.


Hey Magicmakerman, how did you get the producers of American Idol to grant you permission to use the likeness of their contestants on t-shirts?

[lovetheladies]

I like bucky, what you see is what you get. I can respect that.

[FalseIdol]

I can honestly say I don't really dislike any of the remaining contestants. Bucky's probably the least talented of the bunch and will be going home soon---but I'm glad he's gotten a moment in the sun.

[Magicmarkerman]

Hey Magicmakerman, how did you get the producers of American Idol to grant you permission to use the likeness of their contestants on t-shirts?


It isnt necessary... Much like a political cartoonist sells their artwork to newspapers, media etc. I fall under the same category of freedom of speech and the fair act doctrine. I do not use the american idol name or logo in ANY of the work, nor do i use the contestants names (although i am allowed to in the item descriptions)... If i was using photo images it would be a much different situation. I'm just selling my artwork.

[FalseIdol]

It isnt necessary... Much like a political cartoonist sells their artwork to newspapers, media etc. I fall under the same category of freedom of speech and the fair act doctrine. If i was using photo images it would be a much different situation. I'm just selling my artwork.

Sorry, but you have been misinformed. Putting a person's likeness on a t-shirt and selling it for a profit is miles apart from drawing a politcal cartoon.

California Civil Code Section 3344:

'3344. Use of Another's Name, Voice, Signature, Photograph, or Likeness in Advertising or Soliciting Without Prior Consent.

(a) Any person who knowingly uses another's name, voice, signature, photograph, or likeness, in any manner on or in products, merchandise, or goods, or for purposes of advertising or selling, or soliciting purchases of products, merchandise, goods or services, without such person's prior consent, or, in the case of a minor, the prior consent of his parent or legal guardian, shall be liable for any damages sustained by the person or persons injured as a result thereof....the person who violated the section shall be liable to the injured party or parties in an amount equal to the GREATER OF seven hundred fifty dollars ($750) or the actual damages suffered by him or her as a result of the unauthorized use, and any profits from the unauthorized use that are attributable to the use and are not taken into account in computing the actual damages. Punitive damages may also be awarded to the injured party or parties. The prevailing party in any action under this section shall also be entitled to attorney's fees and costs.

Trust me when I say you need to be careful. I live in Los Angeles and I know the barracudas that entertainers and studios hire to protect their interests. They won't care how big or small you are or how much money you made. All they will care about is squashing you out of existence.

[borch]

What it all boils down to is we each enjoy different types of music. Each of the contestants earn their votes and just cause we don't care as much for a certain one does not mean that others do not enjoy thier music. Personally I like them all and hate to see any of them leave. I just happen to prefer Bucky's sound and so does my husband. We also LOVE Taylor.

[Magicmarkerman]

Sorry, but you have been misinformed. Putting a person's likeness on a t-shirt and selling it for a profit is miles apart from drawing a politcal cartoon.

California Civil Code Section 3344:

'3344. Use of Another's Name, Voice, Signature, Photograph, or Likeness in Advertising or Soliciting Without Prior Consent.....

Trust me when I say you need to be careful. I live in Los Angeles and I know the barracudas that entertainers and studios hire to protect their interests. They won't care how big or small you are or how much money you made. All they will care about is squashing you out of existence.


Selling artwork regardless of its 'canvas' and selling political cartoons is completely in the same ball park and not miles apart. Any artwork sold by any artist is for profit. I can produce any artwork i want, and sell in on any surface i want, and yes, FOR PROFIT! I can do caricatures of you all day long and sell them to anyone who wants to buy them... Because it is my constitutional right to do so.

Further more, I am not based out of california and fall within a completely different set of laws and jurisdiction...

YOU have been misinformed, or perhaps have actually misinterprited your 'quoted law'... If a likeness is depicted holding a product, (lets use Coke for example), which appears to be promoting a product causing confusion to the general public that the product is endorsed by coke, as well as the person the likeness is of, with the coke when in actuality it is not, THAT is where there is an issue and how actually how the law you mentioned should be interprited. I use no logos, and no names within my art, and only provide names in the description of what the art is (which i am fully allowed to legally do) I refer you to this case study:

ETW CORPORATION, Plaintiff-Appellant, v. JIREH PUBLISHING, INC., Defendant-Appellee.
No. 00-3584
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT
332 F.3d 915; 2003 U.S. App. LEXIS 12488; 2003 FED App. 0207P (6th Cir.); 67 U.S.P.Q.2D (BNA) 1065

In which, Under the same laws I fall under, an artist AND their publisher were attempted to be sued by Tiger Woods and his people for painting a picture of him and producing Prints of the work for sale globally... There are very clear guidlines when it comes to artwork versus someones photo... The artist and the publisher won the case as you will read, because artwork is considered freedom of speach. No products are portrayed in the work avoiding confusion of representation by any company OR entity, such as American Idol, etc.

Someones 'Likeness' is extremely subjective since there are many 'lookalikes' for people all over the world. If i see a caricature somewhere that happens to look like me could i sue? Ridiculous... Public eye, fair game...

*****For the people making and selling reproduced photos, is infringement of photographers capyrights. Those are the individuals you should be 'warning'.***

I am completely within my right to sell my artwork, regardless of who is depicted, as proven by this case study.

[FalseIdol]

Someones 'Likeness' is extremely subjective since there are many 'lookalikes' for people all over the world.


Right. You put every AI contestant's picture on a t-shirt and then you want people to think it might be someone else.

And then you claim you're not subject to the law (which you clearly are) because you don't live in Calfornia, but if you did the law doesn't apply to you anyway. Wrong on both counts.

Either way, I hope you have $50 to $100 grand stashed away for attorney fees for the day one of these celebirities comes knocking because it is just a matter of time...

[Magicmarkerman]

I dont put a picture of anyone on anything... I put a caricature representation. HUGE difference!
I specifically tell people who it is of in the description... My point about 'subjectivity' i guess wasnt grasped by you... Can someone that looks like Ace young for example go sue American idol for posting pics that look like him all over the media???

I am subject to the EXACT laws of the case study i gave you specific reference to which pertains to EXACTLY what i am doing... Not to mention the Constitution which is the foundation for the laws you speak of....I guess you didnt take the time to read the case study...

Go ahead, read it for yourself and see why what i am doing is completely legal... then go focus on warning the people who are actually stealing photographs and reproducing them... They can be sued by the photographers AND the people in the photos...

Since i have sold caricatures of Gearge Bush and other political figures, AND HAD THEM PUBLISHED, am i going to be sued by them too? Will every artist be sued for creating depictions of people? Will every political cartoonist depicting anyone in the public eye and selling their work to newspapers be sued? Will Disney be sued for portaying cartoon versions of celebs in their movies? The answer is NO for all of the questions!!!!!!! It is freedom of speech... Just go read the case study if you're so concerned about it....it's right there waiting for you to show you how wrong you are...

[graciespeaks]

PEOPLE magazine does it every week! They use someone's picture to sell magazines.

[AbsentElement]

PEOPLE magazine does it every week! They use someone's picture to sell magazines.
Not to mention all of the tabloids.

[Magicmarkerman]

***Apogies for 'hi-jacking' this thread***

Gracie and AbsentElement, I appreciate your backing in this matter! Nice to see the support...

There is a difference between the pics of people and the sketches of them though. The pics, much like the sketches, are also sold by the photographers (Artist) to use. And yes, those pics on the covers do sell magazines!!! The confusion lies in the public thinking that something is endorsed by a company or person when it is not... Like, for instance, if there is a bilboard advertisement with someones likeness with a product, the general public might think that person is endorsing whatever they are shown with... That is where the law is broken if that person really doesnt endorse the product shown in the advertisement.

Photos are unique depending on if they are candid from being taken in public, like paparrazzi (where the photographer has all the copyrights), or from a photoshoot (where the photographer has rights, but also an obligation to the model, in certain circumstances depending on their contract).

Regardless, an Artsist has ALL rights in their work with obligation to no one in the subject matter.

Ok, enough of all this... Hopefully that clears everything up. :) Back to the thread... Bucky is still in the running... Who will be the next to go??

http://www.fameassfaces.com/files/Fameassfaces.com_American_Idol_Final_8.jpg

[FalseIdol]

I dont put a picture of anyone on anything... I put a caricature representation. HUGE difference!
I specifically tell people who it is of in the description... My point about 'subjectivity' i guess wasnt grasped by you... Can someone that looks like Ace young for example go sue American idol for posting pics that look like him all over the media???


You can babble all you want about "constitutional privleges" and compare yourself to "political cartoonists" and "weekly newsmagazines" even though none of it applies. I suppose you need to tell yourself such baloney in order to pretend you have a right to make a profit using someone's likeness and not compensating them for it.

Political cartoons are protected. So are weekly newsmagazines (no matter how trashy), provided the photos they use were taken where the person who was photographed had no reasonable expectation of privacy or where it could be argued that the photo itself was newsworthy. But drawing someone's likeness---a non political figure's likeness---where there is no question as to who that person is and then slapping that likeness on a t-shirt or coffee mug in order to make a buck is just plain old fashioned stealing. You are merchandising, sir, not protecting free speech.

I am extremely familiar with ETW Corp. v. Jireh Publishing. In fact if you knew what I did for a living you'd realize just how familiar. Did you know that case took almost 4 years to settle and that most legal scholars feel the Ohio Court of Appeals erred in their decision? Besides, would you care to take a guess at what Jireh Publishing's legal bills were in that case? (Well into six figures). Plus, if you knew anything about the case you would have realized that the ETW Corp lawsuit had as much to do with alleged trademark infringement as the painting themselves, which were done by noted sports artist Rick Rush, of Tiger Woods playing at the 1997 Master's.

So the next time you wish to hide behind the Jireh case to justify your thievery, take a look at Wendt v. Paramount pictures. George Wendt and John Ratzenberger -- Norm Peterson and Cliff Clavin on "Cheers" -- sued Paramount Pictures and its Host International, Inc. in 1993 over "Hank" and "Bob," the animatronic robots placed in airport bars named after and built to look like the tavern from the show.

Wendt and Ratzenberger argued that the robotic look-alikes violated their right of publicity under California law, while the studio and its licensee claimed the copyright in the show entitled them to put the robots in the bars. So in this case even the original owner of the copyrighted material (the characters from the show) were successfully sued once they started using those characters in an a manor the actors never intended or agreed to.

Ever heard of Comedy III Productions v. Gary Saderup, Inc? This one might strike a bit closer to home for you. The California Supreme Court ruled that T-shirts bearing drawings (aka caricatures) of The Three Stooges are not sufficiently artistic to warrant their own First Amendment protection. And the Three Stooges are certainly far better known than any of the American Idols and are dead to boot! The case was a battle between a celebrity lithographer, Gary Saderup, and the holder of The Three Stooges' "deceased's right of publicity."

The court noted that other artistic reproductions of celebrities, such as Andy Warhol's silkscreens of Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor and Elvis Presley, would be protected, but that Saderup's Three Stooges was not. The difference, the court said, was Warhol's works "went beyond the commercial exploitation of celebrity images and became a form of ironic social comment on the dehumanization of celebrity itself."

Saderup has been drawing charcoal sketches of celebrities for 25 years. He used the drawings to create lithographic and silkscreen masters, which produce lithographic prints and T-shirts.

After Saderup began selling Stooges prints and T-shirts, Comedy III Productions, which owns the Stooges' right of publicity, brought the lawsuit, seeking damages under the California deceased person's publicity law. That law provides that anyone who uses a deceased person's name, voice, signature, photograph or likeness in "products, merchandise, or goods, or for purposes of advertising or selling" without prior consent shall be liable for damages. The right can be sold during the celebrity's life or may descend as part of an inheritance.

After a trial, the court ruled in favor of Comedy III for $225,000 and granted an injunction against Saderup.

I could go on, but no sense boring everyone else with a legal discourse when it is fairly obvious nothing short of a court summons is going to convince you that your t-shirt enterprise featuring American Idol contestants is no more a form of free speech then me running into a crowded theatre and yelling "FIRE!"

I'm done with the topic. When the day comes that you are faced with such a lawsuit don't say no one tried to warn you.

[sydneylovesace]

Falseidol please try and stay focused, I realize after reading some of your posts its hard, but this is an AI forum. No matter how much effort you put into bashing others here you seem to look quite silly.
The issues are... Ace, Katharine, Kellie, Elliott, Paris, Chris, Taylor, Bucky.
So save those fingers, unless you are on target with the issues.
Thank You For Your Time And Consideration...
and Remember.... sydneylovesace....

[FalseIdol]

Dear SyndneyLovesAce:

While I realize "wouldn't you just love to cuddle with ace" are as deep as some of the topics ever go, sometimes AI issues of more substance warrant a comment too. The t-shirt thing happens to be one of them.

Pay attention. You just mught learn something.

[Magicmarkerman]

Pay attention. You just mught learn something.

Hopefully you will listen to your own quote, oh Ye of little ability to comprehend! haha

I AM a professional cartoonist and ALL of it applies! All of my originally created artwork is protected. You just dont get it. I am merchandising my artwork, regardless of its content like every other cartoonist/artist in the world.

Your comments are redundant since you contredict them with previous quotes! Regardless of what the 'legal bills' were, you have already quoted in one of your previous ramblings 'that the losing party is responsible for all legal fees'! Sheesh...

If you DO happen to be in the legal field for a living i feel sorry for you since you probably arent very goos at it with your innability to comprehend, as well as your apparent lack of knowledge in the field disciphering actual meanings of the laws. It is quite evident by your ramblings, making you 'Look Silly' (as quoted by SydneyLovesAce...WELL SAID by the way!). In addition, your innability to comprehend even the simplest of rules of this forum by not 'STAYING ON TOPIC' demonstrates your lack of comprehension further. I know I wouldnt hire a lawyer that cant follow rules, or cant even comprehend their meaning...So, hopefully you arent in the field, because you probably would have much work.

You site cases I have already explained... For example, since apparently you need things spelled out for you repeatedly, the 'Wendt & Ratzenberger' case. The bar was CONFUSING the public with the look alike robots, making people think that Wendt and Ratzenberger ENDORSED the bar, which they did not.

'ComedyIII'... and i quote from your statement ' not sufficiently artistic to warrent their own first amendment' ... Which means (thats righht, I'm going to try to help you finally comprehend), Due to REDRAWING someone elses copyrighted photo EXACTLY, the work isnt sufficiently artistic as their own creation.

I have sited the difference between photo and art previously...so repetitive...hopefully you get it this go around!

Same applies to Warhol. His 'Artwork' was MANIPULATIONS of OTHER PEOPLES COPYRIGHTED PHOTOGPRAPHS!!!! Had he taken the photos himself, the would have been no problem.

Saderup's charcoal sketches were fine until he drew portraits exactly like a copyrighted photo of the stooges! Its actually pretty simple to understand this stuff, especially for someone that gives the indication they're in the legal field... Maybe you just file papers in a law office??? I'm sorry, but that doesnt constitue being in the field...

My 'Enterprise' as you call it, DOES NOT feature AI contestants. That would suggest the usage of Photos.

In actuality, it features CARICATURE DEPICTIONS of the contestants that are reproduced on ANYTHING ,including T Shirts, which fans happen to appreciate!

I'm glad you're 'Done with the Topic' since you have proven you dont know what you're talking about. AND I'm sure everyone here is glad you 'Wont Go On', since you have already 'Bored' everyone with your inaccurate, falsely directed 'legal quotes' that you cant comprehend for yourself...Again, 'Makes you look silly' (SydneyLovesAce)

AGAIN, BACK TO THE TOPIC!!! Lets ALL hope FalseIdol (wow how ironic with false being in your name) will understand everything now, follow the rules and stick to the topic!

[AbsentElement]

Dear SyndneyLovesAce:

While I realize "wouldn't you just love to cuddle with ace" are as deep as some of the topics ever go, sometimes AI issues of more substance warrant a comment too. The t-shirt thing happens to be one of them.

Pay attention. You just mught learn something.
Okay folks, lets reel it back in a little bit.

Comments such as these are unnecessary, provoking, borderline flaming, and the posts in which these comments are contained are OFF TOPIC for this thread...

So the next time you wish to hide behind the Jireh case to justify your thievery

If you DO happen to be in the legal field for a living i feel sorry for you since you probably arent very goos at it with your innability to comprehend

While FalseIdol has a perfectly valid point in that...
... sometimes AI issues of more substance warrant a comment too. The t-shirt thing happens to be one of them.

...this is not the appropriate thread for that. The topic is "How fast do you want to see Bucky go?" It is fine to discuss legal issues (as they relate to American Idol), for those who wish to immerse themselves in such discussions, but please create/use a new thread for that specific topic.

It is also important to realize that some issues, which may arise in any of the forums, may be more sensitive to some people, thereby creating a situation in which debates have the potential to turn into personal attacks or flaming. Please remember that flaming is 1) a violation of the rules of these forums; and 2) just not necessary.

[sydneylovesace]

Falseidol,
I am a 35 year old happily married, mother of 2. I give chemotherapy to, clearly, very sick patients. My daughter is 6, her name is Sydney and she loves Ace, and so do I,
but I am not interested in "cuddling" him! This forum, I thought, was to have fun on, and actually take away some of the stress of "everyday". Do NOT ever address me in such a condescending manner again! To imply that I might not understand that sometimes there are "issues of more importance" is foolish! I am certain that in my day to day activities I see more "issues of importance" than an AI face on a shirt and what the legal implications might be!
Remember, Falseidol, you don't always know who you are talking to!
There will NEVER be a day you can teach me anything!

[McFeverish.....]

Bucky is probably the weakest of the season 5 group (second to Ace) so far...but still, his humbleness, and approachability factor is attractive, and people love him for it.

I'll be sad to see him go, but I know it's inevitable.

I think his fanbase will side with Kellie, Elliot, or Taylor, or a combination of the three.

[graciespeaks]

YYAAAHHOOOO sydneylovesace!
Way to go!!!
:yelrotflm

[chris_fan_all_the_way]

i hope either Elliot or Kellie goes first. I dont like Elliot's singing at all and I think Kellie can sing almost anything, but she don't want to and thats why she does great at country and nothing else. I think the winner will be between Katherine and Chris. I don't know where Bucky will go, but he's kinda the same way as Kellie but not as bad. He might make it to the top 5 or 4. You have to remember all the times he has been in the bottom 3 too. And Paris is good, but she gives me a headache. And she doesnt seem as popular with the audience. So I dont think she will go much futher. I liked Mandisa, but nothing we are gonna do about that. I think Ace will go either this week or next week. He's not doin as good as he had been. Anyone agree with my predictions? Anyone disagree?

[cloie4me]

i hope either Elliot or Kellie goes first. I dont like Elliot's singing at all and I think Kellie can sing almost anything, but she don't want to and thats why she does great at country and nothing else. I think the winner will be between Katherine and Chris. I don't know where Bucky will go, but he's kinda the same way as Kellie but not as bad. He might make it to the top 5 or 4. You have to remember all the times he has been in the bottom 3 too. And Paris is good, but she gives me a headache. And she doesnt seem as popular with the audience. So I dont think she will go much futher. I liked Mandisa, but nothing we are gonna do about that. I think Ace will go either this week or next week. He's not doin as good as he had been. Anyone agree with my predictions? Anyone disagree?

Interesting take. I think you might be right about Elloitt, I do think he can sing, but I dont think he has a large fan base. I would like to see kellie go, but really dont think she will. I agree with you about Bucky, I dont think he will make it all the way, but he has shown improvement since Stevie Wonder gave him advice a few weeks ago. I think he is "rough" talent but think he could be very good with the right training. I also like his attitude. I like Ace, but agree that he hasn't been doing as good lately. I hope he will improve. Completely agree with your thoughts on Paris. Also agree that Katharine will go far even though I personally dont vote for her. I think she has a large fan base and her singing is good. For me, maybe 3 or 4 for Katharine. You didnt mention Taylor, I wonder that your thought on him are. I think if he goes back to being himself, he is going to make it to the top 3.
I enjoyed reading your post, as always.

[FalseIdol]

Falseidol,

There will NEVER be a day you can teach me anything!

Sure there is. I just taught you that you have no control over your emotions, hence the ranting, babbling comments you addressed in my direction.

Have a nice day.

[cloie4me]

Sure there is. I just taught you that you have no control over your emotions, hence the ranting, babbling comments you addressed in my direction.

Have a nice day.

Falseidol,
Trust me, she has control over her emotions, as for you............
You hide behind your computer screen and try to get away with saying things you clearly cant say at home.

[FalseIdol]

Sorry, but in my home we try to be honest with our emotions and opinions and discuss them openly. I'm sure in your home your husband has never had an opinion that you didn't give him.

[Skate]

Sorry, but in my home we try to be honest with our emotions and opinions and discuss them openly. I'm sure in your home your husband has never had an opinion that you didn't give him.
Really, who are you to assume what goes on in her home & what her relationship with her husband is like? That is completely unnecessary & besides, all you've done since joining this forum is to make brainless comments.

Get a life.

[chris_fan_all_the_way]

Wow I cant believe I forgot Taylor. Of course I love Taylor, but I don't think he done as good this past week as he has in the recent weeks. It is sad, but I think he will be going in the next couple of weeks. I love his energy and his voice, but let's face it, without his dance moves, he isn't as memorable. Thank you for your comment and I'm glad that you like reading my posts.

[graciespeaks]

Sure there is. I just taught you that you have no control over your emotions, hence the ranting, babbling comments you addressed in my direction.

Have a nice day.
You don't think someone with her job knows anything about emotions?
Get real!
Stick to the issues!!

[chris_fan_all_the_way]

hey everyone, I bet you didnt know that falseidol was the reason another forum was locked down. If we cant stick to the subjects of AI, we wont be able to xpress ourselves. So why don't you all just get over the childish arguments and get back to the subject of the forum? It isnt fair to everyone else and you shouldn't stoop to falseidol's level.:mad:

[cloie4me]

Im in Chris.............Ill ignore, thanks for the heads up.

[chris_fan_all_the_way]

your welcome I just hope everyone else takes my advice. I wasnt trying to be mean or anything, but i though everyone should know.:)

[FalseIdol]

You don't think someone with her job knows anything about emotions?
Get real!
Stick to the issues!!

Again, please try practicing what you preach. Those who scream the loudest appear to be the biggest offenders.

[chris_fan_all_the_way]

Hey falseidol, there is a seperate forum for OFF TOPIC CHAT. You should go there. that way you could talk about everything under the sun and not get bitched at

[FalseIdol]

Hey falseidol, there is a seperate forum for OFF TOPIC CHAT. You should go there. that way you could talk about everything under the sun and not get bitched at

Hey Chris Fan:

This is the second time you've tried to derail this thread. Amazing how those who are so quick to point the finger have the least amount of self-control.

[Son of Simon]

Again, we're way off topic. Keep your heads cool people, or lose your posting privileges.

Locked for the same reason.