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IdolMe
03-29-2006, 11:35 PM
We have so many Katharine fan's here... so someone tell me what's going on with the voting?

frank
03-30-2006, 12:05 AM
We have so many Katharine fan's here... so someone tell me what's going on with the voting?

Mr. Me;
If I said it once I've said it one Million times, It's not the votes that decide the eventual outcome of AI5 but rather the producers. Tonight they put Katharine in the bottom 3. Did you notice the audience's reaction....Booooooooo!! I could just see people all over the U.S. gasping upon hearing that she was so "CLOSE" to elimination. It appears that from what I see on these boards, Bucky is taking the brunt of Katharine's' close shave with death. The very bottom line of all of this is, if you create disgust of the "Voting" you bolster ratings. This is so easy to see. I'm beginning to see why some people believe that wrestling is real, these people are precisely the same ones that actually believe that the Voting decides AI outcome. People...it's just another reality show, nothing more than a vehicle to entertain us.

froggiegurl
03-30-2006, 09:14 AM
We have so many Katharine fan's here... so someone tell me what's going on with the voting?
i know right?!?! all of us katharine fans need to align and keep voting for her. i will NOT let her go without a fight.

Son of Simon
03-30-2006, 10:06 AM
We have so many Katharine fan's here... so someone tell me what's going on with the voting?

Hi IdolMe,

There are also a lot of Katharine haters out there as well. I explored this phenomena with my girlfriend last night, and here is my take on the whole thing:

Katharine was in the bottom for several reasons, some demographic, and one very psychological reason. You'll have to bear with me on the psychological one, as it's only a theory and based on what I've seen in my own experience.

Demographics

It was mentioned last night that whenever one person leaves the show- their votes move elsewhere. This effect becomes greater and greater as the show progresses, and we saw a taste of it last night. Think about the last two weeks- we lost Melissa and Kevin going into last night. Melissa votes were among pretty mixed crowds- the adults who like her sex-appeal and smoky voice, and genre-types who honestly could have taken their votes to any contestant (I think they went to Bucky, personally). Then we lost Kevin, the "sentimental" vote, the young kids and the senior citizens. IdolMe pointed out that her daughter immediately moved her vote to Kellie, and the grandkids are always right- so if little chrissy or britney or courtney are voting for pretty Kellie, grandma and grandpa better help them out with the voting. Thus- a huge boon for the "Pick Pickler" camp.

Psychological

This is where it gets a little complicated. I'll start off with the short version:

Katharine Macphee has committed acts of an unredeeming nature as percieved by a portion of the voting population. Bascially- those voters bear a grudge on Katharine for which they will never forgive her for and have sentenced her to American Idol "exile".

Sounds weird, huh? Bear with me while I talk about my girlfriend for a moment here:

Ahh, SoS's beloved girlfriend... She's the smartest woman I know- formally educated, professional career, and yet absolutely sociable. She can have fun at an insurance salesman convention. Outgoing, assertive, confident, powerful, but still cool enough to hang out with the teenagers and wise enough to be respected by her elders. She's creative too, she can dance, she directs plays, and she can sing! (big surprise SoS would date a singer...)

And did I mention she's DROP DEAD GORGEOUS? She's got big, bright green eyes, blonde hair, and more eyelashes than Revlon can develop technology for. She's built wonderfully in all the right places, knows how to order wine in a restaurant, and can dance like there's no tomorrow. Being beautiful has definite bonuses, but sometimes combined with her confidence and bonafide ability, it generates some of the worst form of emnity with people.

I recall being her getting out of my car at a gas station to use the bathroom and two girls trying to start a fight with her, JUST BY SEEING HER. The world is generally kind to the beautiful, but there is definitely a deep-seeded resentment that can unleash at the first sign of "un-likeability" in the target.

So why is Kellie safe? Because she appears "dumb", and dumb is percieved as a sign of weakness or inferiority. She can't really compete vocally with Katharine either, and the little kids love her blonde hair and her playing with her dog and all the reasons use adults have lost our understanding of.

Paris is safe because she's non-threatening. She's bouncy and youthful and fun, not to mention entertaining. People like her because she's that sweet little girl who can show us a good time on stage.

Madisa is safe for similar reasons. She's a powerhouse talent, undeniably so, but not attractive in a traditional sense, so she's not threatening either.

None of the other female contestants really register on the hate-radar (Hate-dar). Only Katharine Macphee.

Katharine has been regarded as arrogant by a number of the voting population. Arrogance is an unforgiveable sin, just look at what happened to Brenna (who is arrogant without debate, and only marginally talented). Whether or not her arrogance is real, it is percieved, and perception is everything for people who vote along moral or relational lines, which as it turns out, is a substantial portion of the voting population. Katharine is in real trouble now- she's alienated a large number of voters, while failing to gain a lot of votes for those who have left the show. There are those who find her unredeemable in their eyes, those votes are lost, essentially.

It is now up to Katharine's fanbase to generate more votes. You can't really absolve arrogance in the relational/moral voting crowd simply by doing remarkable performances. Those who support Katharine are simply going to have to rally people around them, such as bringing new voters in.

cloie4me
03-30-2006, 12:28 PM
Son of Simon,

Several things come to my mind when I read your post. First, I would like to start out by saying I have grown to enjoy reading what you have to say, and think you have good insight. Second, Your love for your girlfriend is refreshing. I love a man who loves his family, mate etc. It's very attractive.
That being said, You know that I am one of those that don't support Katharine. I feel that she is arrogant. However, I love pretty. I have always been drawn to well dressed, well educated, sexy, beautiful people. I dont dislike her for that reason. A few in this world might, but I think that most of us secure Americans will form negative opinions based on other aspects of an individual, and not because they "look to good"
But I'm no expert, I can only speak for myself. There are many females who aren't happy with their own appearance, and might feel that way. I am eager to see other females respond.

Feisty Kitty
03-30-2006, 01:13 PM
SOS, your girlfriend is a very lucky woman!

AND, I totally agree with 100% of what you said.

One thing I would like to point out to any Kat haters out there: that look on her face last night wasn't anger. She wasn't pissed to be in the bottom two. She was SICK! Poor girl. None of them saw that coming. Did you see how the other contestants were shocked? Then Kat tried to pull it together and smile along with Lisa, who had forseen her doom, but it seemed contrived.......cuz it was! How does one smile when their dreams are being flushed down the toilet?

I am friggin' leaving if Kitty Kat leaves.

On an unrelated note, I am getting really tired of having "You Had a Bad Day" play on repeat in my head........................................

froggiegurl
03-30-2006, 01:14 PM
On an unrelated note, I am getting really tired of having "You Had a Bad Day" play on repeat in my head........................................

i love this song. how could you be sick of it?

barbie_09
03-30-2006, 01:16 PM
i know right?!?! all of us katharine fans need to align and keep voting for her. i will NOT let her go without a fight.


I agree.... people need to stop voting with their eyes and just listen .....maybe then us Kat fans wouldnt be so upset!

froggiegurl
03-30-2006, 01:20 PM
I agree.... people need to stop voting with their eyes and just listen .....maybe then us Kat fans wouldnt be so upset!
i agree... people should look at past performances, not just that week. katharine could have been voted off just because she had a "bad day".

Magicmarkerman
03-30-2006, 01:20 PM
I'm under the impression that the producers do have something to do with the so called 'bottom three'... They know who is going to be eliminated, and i believe that they choose the other 2 for the bottom three to create more drama and encourange even more voting to make sure the viewers favorites arent in that situation again... I do think that is the only part of the show that is contrived... When i looked close at Kat last night, she was kinda laughing when she was down there...as if she knew she wasnt leaving... I didnt see any surprise in her expressions at all... And look what it caused by here being down there with ace again!!! I GUARANTEE people will be voting like mad this week for the ones they like!!!... It goes to show that the producers are keeping people hooked by doing stuff like 'creating' the bottom three just for show... Anyone else agree?

barbie_09
03-30-2006, 01:21 PM
Son of Simon .... I like the way you think. But listen.... Kat's performances have been great... not some of the best but... take bucky for instance all his performances were rocky... if any one should have been in the bottom three it mshould have been him.

Feisty Kitty
03-30-2006, 01:29 PM
Froggie, I don't hate it, I just cannot stop singing it, and this happens after every elimination show. It is maddening!

Son of Simon
03-30-2006, 01:57 PM
Hi Cloie,

I can understand your viewpoint completely. I'm still trying to determine this for myself as well.

Let me ask you this though: What would Katharine have to do to get back into your good graces? It's something I'm very interested in hearing, because I know you were once a Katharaine supporter, and I apprecaite your take on the matter.

Idoleyes
03-30-2006, 03:34 PM
We have so many Katharine fan's here... so someone tell me what's going on with the voting?

There is merit in Son of Simon's comments regarding Katharine’s dilemma - voter resentment (jealousy?) for perceived arrogance/beauty; the non-threatening status of some of the 'underdogs'; and the importance of who the voters shift their support to once their ‘favorite’ is gone.

I was a little surprised at Simon’s (Cowell) comments to Katharine when she was announced in the bottom 3. The previous night I think Simon said he ‘loved the song…’ and her performance was ‘good…almost as good as Christina Aguilera’…and the previous week he said she was ‘a star’….then, rather than backing-up what he had said the previous nights - by saying that he didn’t think Katharine belonged in the bottom three - he just said ‘anyone could have been in the bottom 3…’. Strange, and somewhat inconsistent for Simon.

In my opinion, by whatever standards you choose to judge a competitor – voice; stage presence/performance; looks; personality; marketability; - Katharine is top 3 for sure – and I think Taylor and Chris are there as well. Elliot and Mandisa have good voices, but fall short of my ‘top 3’ in some of the other standards. I like Bucky and Pickles…both have charm and do reasonably well - especially when they stay in their comfort zone of country music. Ace and Paris seem too contrived for my liking.

A few other general comments: I wish that the shows stylists would tone it down on some of the attempted ‘makeovers’ on some of the contestants – particularly Taylor and Pickles. I liked the fact that Taylor started out with a seemingly unaffected approach to his performances – he didn’t care how he looked or ‘danced’, he just sung from the heart. But it seems the more they try to embellish his ‘look’ the more self-conscious he gets, and it is detracting from his natural way of performing – O.K., a few less ‘Joe Cocker’ gyrations are fine, but I wish he’d just block out all the other fashion distractions and go back to singing from the heart. Taylor…don’t dye your hair darker!! In Pickles case, the heavy makeup they put on her a few times was horrible/scary. I know this is show-biz and all that….but please stop putting make-up on Bucky!

The more I watch, the more I suspect that there is some credence to the notion that the show and voting results are manipulated by the producers for ratings purposes. It’s just a feeling, but it wouldn’t surprise me - knowing the nefarious executives involved in television.

In my opinion, any one of Taylor, Katharine or Chris deserve to win AI…Elliot, Mandisa and Pickles should be around for a while longer; Ace, Paris and Bucky should go over the next few weeks. If Katharine goes before Ace, Paris, or Bucky, the show lacks a lot of credibility in my mind.

Final thought: I wish the judges would give more concrete feedback to the contestants….Randy is the ‘Ear’ of the panel and as a musician/producer, he should be able to give much more insightful comments – if we told him he couldn’t use his sentence-filler words (Dude; dog; ‘pitchy’; aw-yite?!; ‘I don’t know man…it didn’t do it for me’…etc) there is rarely much substance in his comments. Paula…what can I say…I guess she’s the ‘heart’ of the panel…if she is on drugs, she should stop…if she’s not, she should start taking some! She’s a former performer herself and she should also be able to add more than the nonsense she typically comes out with. Simon is the ‘wallet’ of the panel...if he doesn’t think he can/could make money off your performance/personality, he’ll murder you with his acerbic comments.

cloie4me
03-30-2006, 03:35 PM
Hi Cloie,

I can understand your viewpoint completely. I'm still trying to determine this for myself as well.

Let me ask you this though: What would Katharine have to do to get back into your good graces? It's something I'm very interested in hearing, because I know you were once a Katharaine supporter, and I apprecaite your take on the matter.

Actually Son, I found myself pleasantly shocked when Katharine was interviewed and she stated "whatever God has for me" If that is her opinion then I will rethink mine. Comments like that showed a side of her that I liked. Also....I dont mess with Gods saved children.

Son of Simon
03-30-2006, 04:12 PM
Idoleyes,

Sheer brilliance on your part. You touched on something I wanted to make mention of, but got lost in my long-winded post!



I was a little surprised at Simon’s (Cowell) comments to Katharine when she was announced in the bottom 3. The previous night I think Simon said he ‘loved the song…’ and her performance was ‘good…almost as good as Christina Aguilera’…and the previous week he said she was ‘a star’….then, rather than backing-up what he had said the previous nights - by saying that he didn’t think Katharine belonged in the bottom three - he just said ‘anyone could have been in the bottom 3…’. Strange, and somewhat inconsistent for Simon.


This right here. This is excellent. I COMPLETELY agree with you, and furthermore I think Cowell was trying to cover his tracks.

I tend to think Cowell censros himself far more than the average person would realize. I think he genuinely supports Katharine, and he looked a bit upset last night. The other two judges made meaningless remarks, as usual, but for Cowell to withdraw his comments and hide behind the popular vote is just wrong.


Final thought: I wish the judges would give more concrete feedback to the contestants….Randy is the ‘Ear’ of the panel and as a musician/producer, he should be able to give much more insightful comments – if we told him he couldn’t use his sentence-filler words (Dude; dog; ‘pitchy’; aw-yite?!; ‘I don’t know man…it didn’t do it for me’…etc) there is rarely much substance in his comments. Paula…what can I say…I guess she’s the ‘heart’ of the panel…if she is on drugs, she should stop…if she’s not, she should start taking some! She’s a former performer herself and she should also be able to add more than the nonsense she typically comes out with. Simon is the ‘wallet’ of the panel...if he doesn’t think he can/could make money off your performance/personality, he’ll murder you with his acerbic comments.

Brilliant again! Frankly, I think the judges are so scared of upsetting the American public and losing their jobs that they can no longer effectively do their job.

Such is the "mob rule" of American Idol.

Ciuma
03-30-2006, 04:39 PM
If there's anyone on this show I like as much as Katharine, it's Simon. Yeah, he likes Katharine, but Simon knows what his show is about. In my mind, he said more than what America heard - I felt that he didn't want to be long-winded and certainly had no need to confuse America by being so. The thing is, I've really gotten into Simon's vibe, and I know that what he cares about is "marketing" to the public. Well, that's his science. He cares about what the public sees and feels. He's not trying to wrong the public and gain more money - he has studied the public, even as we are doing now. We fans have contrived of reasons for Katharine being in the bottom three, and perhaps he doesn't know them as fully as some of us do since he doesn't chat with us online, but at least he is aware of them. And that's why he accepts the results. As much as he has studied and knows that he has studied, he still knows that he's not clairvoyant. Only a student of the mind! He's human, so give him a break.

SoS, I left a similar story comparing a friend of mine to Katharine in Katharine's original thread. I know you were posting in that thread, so you probably read it. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you came up with this comparison with your girlfriend all on your own. And I like it. I think you might be simplifying a LITTLE too much because there is more to the psychology than that, but you're on the right track. I don't think they just hate her because she's pretty - in fact, I thought she was one of the least pretty girls on the show until week three or so when she started changing up her hair and everything.

Well, Katharine's personality itself is what makes others inclined to call her arrogant, and also her singing ability. They turn her lack of connection and incredible control in her performances into something they call arrogance. Along with some comments she makes, apparently, and they don't like that she laughs a lot in a not-so-dumb way. Perhaps we can call it "playful" or "charming". (sounds like something someone could be subconsciously jealous of!)

Now add in what you said and maybe a few other details, and I think it's a good explanation of Katharine-haters. ;) Of course, there may be a few who hate her for completely different reasons, but that's beside the point.

cloie4me
03-30-2006, 05:02 PM
Well, Katharine's personality itself is what makes others inclined to call her arrogant, and also her singing ability. They turn her lack of connection and incredible control in her performances into something they call arrogance. Along with some comments she makes, apparently, and they don't like that she laughs a lot in a not-so-dumb way. Perhaps we can call it "playful" or "charming". (sounds like something someone could be subconsciously jealous of!)

Now add in what you said and maybe a few other details, and I think it's a good explanation of Katharine-haters. ;) Of course, there may be a few who hate her for completely different reasons, but that's beside the point.

Do you hear us Katharine "non-voters" when we speak to you? it would be a personality that would make someone think a person is arrogant. What other tool would we use? You stated that we turn her lack of connection and incredible control in her performance into something we call arrogance. Also that we dont like that she laughs a lot in a not-so-dumb way. And we must be jealous if we dont like her. That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. But I keep forgetting, You are the enlightened one. Anyone who doesnt agree with you simply just dont get it or they are jealous. Ever dawned on you that someone can disagree with you and be secure in their own talent and ability? In your world we could have one singer for all to listen to, and of coarse you could pick it because you know everything.

Idoleyes
03-30-2006, 05:09 PM
Idoleyes,

I tend to think Cowell censros himself far more than the average person would realize. I think he genuinely supports Katharine, and he looked a bit upset last night. The other two judges made meaningless remarks, as usual, but for Cowell to withdraw his comments and hide behind the popular vote is just wrong.

Brilliant again! Frankly, I think the judges are so scared of upsetting the American public and losing their jobs that they can no longer effectively do their job.

Such is the "mob rule" of American Idol.

Thanks SoS.

So much for 'Telling it like it is..Keepin it real, man...being honest...' and all that other crap the judges spew.

I can understand Paula and Randy being worried about their jobs...they could easily be replaced by other judges, but Simon is an icon on the show and probably as important in generating viewer interest as any contestant - love him/hate him - he is one of the reasons the show is so popular. That's why I was particularily surprised and disappointed at Simon's lack of 'sinkers' in articulating his true feelings (based on his previous asessments) of Katharine's bottom 3 ranking.

As well, while I know Simon understands that it is the public who ultimately determines who will be the next AI, (although his opinion of the contestants carries more weight with the voters than many might appreciate) he has had no difficulty in the past telling America what they should do (who they should vote off/keep) or that they are crazy if the voting results do not conform to his assessment of the contestants.

Just wierd...'Simon Says...'...it meant a lot more before, than it seems to now.

jacobrules
03-30-2006, 05:26 PM
If there's anyone on this show I like as much as Katharine, it's Simon. Yeah, he likes Katharine, but Simon knows what his show is about. In my mind, he said more than what America heard - I felt that he didn't want to be long-winded and certainly had no need to confuse America by being so. The thing is, I've really gotten into Simon's vibe, and I know that what he cares about is "marketing" to the public. Well, that's his science. He cares about what the public sees and feels. He's not trying to wrong the public and gain more money - he has studied the public, even as we are doing now. We fans have contrived of reasons for Katharine being in the bottom three, and perhaps he doesn't know them as fully as some of us do since he doesn't chat with us online, but at least he is aware of them. And that's why he accepts the results. As much as he has studied and knows that he has studied, he still knows that he's not clairvoyant. Only a student of the mind! He's human, so give him a break.

SoS, I left a similar story comparing a friend of mine to Katharine in Katharine's original thread. I know you were posting in that thread, so you probably read it. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you came up with this comparison with your girlfriend all on your own. And I like it. I think you might be simplifying a LITTLE too much because there is more to the psychology than that, but you're on the right track. I don't think they just hate her because she's pretty - in fact, I thought she was one of the least pretty girls on the show until week three or so when she started changing up her hair and everything.

Well, Katharine's personality itself is what makes others inclined to call her arrogant, and also her singing ability. They turn her lack of connection and incredible control in her performances into something they call arrogance. Along with some comments she makes, apparently, and they don't like that she laughs a lot in a not-so-dumb way. Perhaps we can call it "playful" or "charming". (sounds like something someone could be subconsciously jealous of!)

Now add in what you said and maybe a few other details, and I think it's a good explanation of Katharine-haters. ;) Of course, there may be a few who hate her for completely different reasons, but that's beside the point.
Well I dont like to hear Katharine sing.
Yea she pretty!
But would I buy a CD of her NO WAY
And guess what? I am not at all jealous of her!
Ciuma I think you have lost your mind to believe that just because another person does not love Kat, they must be jealous.
I would buy Kellie's Ace's and Chris' CD anytime!!!!!!!!
CIUMA, WHats your Favorite Color Should We all Be wearing that too?

jacobrules
03-30-2006, 05:33 PM
Idoleyes,

Sheer brilliance on your part. You touched on something I wanted to make mention of, but got lost in my long-winded post!



This right here. This is excellent. I COMPLETELY agree with you, and furthermore I think Cowell was trying to cover his tracks.

I tend to think Cowell censros himself far more than the average person would realize. I think he genuinely supports Katharine, and he looked a bit upset last night. The other two judges made meaningless remarks, as usual, but for Cowell to withdraw his comments and hide behind the popular vote is just wrong.




Brilliant again! Frankly, I think the judges are so scared of upsetting the American public and losing their jobs that they can no longer effectively do their job.

Such is the "mob rule" of American Idol.
I PREDICTED ON A POST EARLIER THAT SIMON MIGHT RETHINK HOW WELL
KATHARINE REALLY DID!
RANDY AND PAULA ARE NOT AFRAID OF LOSING THEIR JOBS !
HOW OLD ARE YOU PEOPLE

stefanie1208
03-30-2006, 05:33 PM
I was so shocked to see that Katharine was in the bottom three and again BUCKY who is awful in my opinion, escaped being voted off once again. First he was lucky to have made the top 12, no scratch that, he was damn lucky to make the top 24 but the judges must have been smoking crack the times they heard him sing. Then he should have left before Kevin, and definitely before Lisa. He sure as hell better be going home next week and not someone who actually has talent, even if it's not much more than him. I am soooo sick of country music being a part of this contest. Hello! Do we not have 2 country bumpkin contestants?? That make everything sound country? So why have a night devoted to country? Nashville Star is lacking in talent, I'm sure the 2 of them would rock the country world, and at least no one would have to hear them pretend to sing some other songs from other genres.

Now, to Frank, I honestly don't think it is the producers because I use a program called dial idol, it was pretty accurate since it first began at using a program to study how many busy signals a person is getting to figure out who will be in the bottom three and it was correct, Lisa, then Ace, then Katharine (so she wasn't even near being the lowest, but they did use that to stir more drama) but she didn't have enough votes to pass Bucky, then Mandisa. The program even got banned by AI5 Producers, but the site got a lawyer and found out it was legal to do what they're doing, so they started it back up again last week. But, the predicted each pair of girls and boys in the first weeks, and they predicted Kevin would go home last week. I like it cause it dials for you and you don't have to do anything! it's awesome! I am a Katharine fan, but I also love Elliott so I had to vote for him or else he might have been in danger since for some reason people forget he's the best male vocalist, far superior to Ace and Chris, and just because people don't think he's as cute as Ace or Chris, or as quirky as Taylor, people don't give him the proper credit.
:)
Elliott and Katharine..final 2!!!!!!!!!!!

jacobrules
03-30-2006, 05:40 PM
Why are people so ARROGANT to believe everyone has the same taste in music and talent? Please someone EXPAIN it to me!
I dont DAWG someone and tell them they are jealous or tone deaf because they like one of my favorites!!!!!!!!!

idolsmidol
03-30-2006, 05:51 PM
SoS made some very good observations. I also agree that Simon shouldn't have left Katherine hanging with his comments after applauding her in her past performances. I really think that the judges and Simon in particular are fans just like the rest of us and have their own favorites. I think Kellie is Simon's pick and he can't get past that to give Katherine the kudos he should. I read his book "I hate to be rude, but..." and he admits to doing this very thing in the past.

Also, S0S we women have always been our own worst enemies. I think that Katherine is shy off stage and people misread this as arrogant, or conceited. She has the voice and she is my pick for the person that can not only win, but can have the career success that Kelly Clarkston is enjoying.

Kristi_M
03-30-2006, 06:17 PM
Kat was in the bottom 3, simply put, becauses her peformance, in my opinion, was sub-par. Her music style also does not apeal to the masses. Sure, Nora Jones is wonderful, but she appeals to only a certain part of the population.
Yes, Kat is now a pretty girl, since they have jazzed up her image. In the beginning, she was cute, kind of plain, like the girl next door. It was Kellie and Heather who got all the attention.

Feisty Kitty
03-31-2006, 11:03 AM
Kat didn't sing Nora Jones, she sang Christina Aguillara

bigd13
03-31-2006, 11:43 AM
I like Katharine, but she's not that appealing. Sure she has a nice voice and pretty and whoever said she can sing anything is lying. The reason she was in the bottom three because she messed up during the song. I don't see a star in Katharine, my pick would be people who you can feel something when they sing Katharine does not have that to me.

Kristi_M
03-31-2006, 12:02 PM
Kat didn't sing Nora Jones, she sang Christina Aguillara

I meant to imply that KAt's singing "style" is similar to Nora Jones....not appealing to everyone. She also does not seem to have much of a personality...at least not compared to some.

Feisty Kitty
03-31-2006, 12:57 PM
Interesting, I think she has tons of personality. She has sung many different and varied genres of music, showing us the many sides of her personality as she had performed.

I think they all have unique personalities. I really enjoy that about this show.

Who do you think has the most personality?

Son of Simon
03-31-2006, 03:59 PM
Interesting, I think she has tons of personality. She has sung many different and varied genres of music, showing us the many sides of her personality as she had performed.

I think they all have unique personalities. I really enjoy that about this show.

Who do you think has the most personality?

If we're going personality alone, then my vote is for Taylor Hicks.

Taylor is a character a fictional writer couldn't have made up. And if a writer did, then said writer would be fired by his/her editor for creating such a "non-standard" character.

I really like Taylor a lot.

ms_suzyq_2u
04-01-2006, 12:56 PM
I consider Katherine to be the most talented female singer on this show. However, if she doesn't grow a personality soon - she will be gone.

She tries too hard to be "cute" and it's really annoying.

Idoleyes
04-01-2006, 04:02 PM
I think that Katherine is shy off stage and people misread this as arrogant, or conceited. She has the voice and she is my pick for the person that can not only win, but can have the career success that Kelly Clarkston is enjoying.

Good point Idolsmidol – that people can misinterpret shyness for arrogance. Sometimes people assume that just because people like Katharine are attractive, they are also full of confidence. The world is full of supermodels, actors, comedians, performers; etc who confess to inhibiting degrees of self-consciousness and lack of confidence, and it can express itself in a number of ways as they interact with people, and be misinterpreted as being cold, arrogant or rude.

Sometimes we viewers and arm-chair critics need to remember just how much pressure there must be on the contestants: the anxiety levels they must experience in choosing the ‘right’ song and deciding how to sing it; what to wear; how to perform; and the angst of wondering what the reaction to their choices will be. I realize the contestants get guidance in making some of the song/fashion choices, but they still have to make it work.

It must be a daunting task knowing that you will be performing in front of a live audience and millions of T.V viewers, who will analyze every move, look, and sound you make, and then vote according to their subjective interpretations of how you did.

Even though it was their choice to undergo the rigors of such a competition – they still deserve credit for doing what they do. That’s why, even though Kevin, Paris, and Lisa are/were not my favorite performers, I can still appreciate what they do/did at 16-17 years of age. Kellie is only 19 and Katharine is only 21, so I am prepared to grant them some latitude if they haven’t quite figured out how to conduct themselves with the same confidence of some of the other performers who have 5-10 years experience on them. In my opinion, Kellie is sweet and naïve (yes, I know the counter-arguments), and Katharine is more demure…I don’t mind it.

I agree Katharine has the talent and potential to win, and could achieve Clarkson-like career success. I also think the same of Taylor, and Chris.

Edmond
04-01-2006, 04:39 PM
I am pretty confident that most (not all) people have to admit that Ms McPhee can sing... I for one, having watched the original Pop Idol and now the X-factor (similar contest of which Simon is one of the three judges) in the UK, think that she is right up there with all my favourites. But (huh, now there's a but!), it baffles me that she didn't seem to inject enough emotion in her singing, which made her performances kind of off-putting at times, so much so that, I found it a tad unsettling that she kept grinning sweetly while singing Christina's The Voice Within... Surely that's not right, right?

sydneylovesace
04-01-2006, 07:05 PM
I agree kat was a fav of mine in the begining and I do still think she's very good and very pretty, and here is my "but", she just does not evoke any "passion" in her performance (for me that is).
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Idoleyes
04-01-2006, 07:51 PM
I agree kat was a fav of mine in the begining and I do still think she's very good and very pretty, and here is my "but", she just does not evoke any "passion" in her performance (for me that is).
Remember: sydneylovesace


I know what you mean...I mentioned in another post that I keep waiting for a number of the contestants to 'tap into the reserve' and pull off a truly memorable performance, with more power and a 'caution to the wind' approach.

Katharine is certainily capable of that - and she has danced on the periphery of delivering a great performance, but just when I think she's taking her performance to the heights, she levels out and doesn't reach it.

Maybe they're waiting until they think they are in danger of being eliminated before they 'pull out all the stops'...but, in Katharine's case...given her bottom 3 placing...that time is now. Bring it Kat!