Thanks for Nothing Bill Clinton

[sandy]

After the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five US military personnel, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 al-Khobar towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 US military personnel, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of US embassies in Africa, which killed 257 and injured 5,000, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured three US sailors, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

Maybe if Mr Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 7,000 more people would be alive today.:mad:

And now his WIFE wants to take over? God help us all.:(

[TaylorHicksRocks]

After the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five US military personnel, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 al-Khobar towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 US military personnel, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of US embassies in Africa, which killed 257 and injured 5,000, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured three US sailors, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

Maybe if Mr Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 7,000 more people would be alive today.:mad:

And now his WIFE wants to take over? God help us all.:(

Now this a little extreme don't you think....W. was aware of the danger and did nothing to protect those individuals...even as it was happening he continued to read a story to young children....just shrugged it off....

[sandy]

How did W know? Did Clinton tell him? Oh, hell no. Clinton's intelligence said there might be a hit on the USA somewhere sometime. Duh... That's true on any given day of the year. Clinton didn't do anything except commit adultry. And then order a strike on an aspirin factory overseas to take the media attention off of him and Monica. I forgot.:rolleyes:

Clinton trashed the defense budget and the military. Liberals hate the military you know. They'd rather "talk it out." HA! Like you can TALK to a terrorist.:(

Bush did the absolute right thing 911 in front of the kids. He didn't panic, didn't scare them, just excused himself after the story and left. What did you want him to do? Freak out?:rolleyes:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

How did W know? Did Clinton tell him? Oh, hell no. Clinton's intelligence said there might be a hit on the USA somewhere sometime. Duh... That's true on any given day of the year. Clinton didn't do anything except commit adultry. And then order a strike on an aspirin factory overseas to take the media attention off of him and Monica. I forgot.:rolleyes:

Clinton trashed the defense budget and the military. Liberals hate the military you know. They'd rather "talk it out." HA! Like you can TALK to a terrorist.:(

Bush did the absolute right thing 911 in front of the kids. He didn't panic, didn't scare them, just excused himself after the story and left. What did you want him to do? Freak out?:rolleyes:

Spin it anyway you want to.......we know what really happened if you would pull your head out of the sand you would also..

[Applejuice]

Bush has had his entire presidency to "smoke 'em out" and all he's done is piss them off even more killing over 3,000 of our troops and spending billions of dollars that I'd rather see go towards problems in our own country. This president will go down in history as a joke. He will be seen as a major disgrace on our country and I will tell my grandchildren that there were these people we called "Bush Lovers" who actually supported this monkey.

Clinton was a great man and a great president who actually DID track down and punish the perpetrators of the 1993 WTC bombings, just to make it clear that he wasn't sitting on his a** reading "My Pet Goat" upside down all day. Four followers of the Egyptian cleric Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman were captured, convicted of the World Trade Center bombing in March 1994, and sentenced to 240 years in prison each. The purported mastermind of the plot, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, was captured in 1995, convicted of the bombing in November 1997, and also sentenced to 240 years in prison. One additional suspect fled the U.S. and is believed to be living in Baghdad.

-On 13 November 1995, a bomb was set off in a van parked in front of an American-run military training center in the Saudi Arabian capital of Riyadh, killing five Americans and two Indians. Saudi Arabian authorities arrested four Saudi nationals whom they claim confessed to the bombings, but U.S. officials were denied permission to see or question the suspects before they were convicted and beheaded in May 1996.

-On 13 November 1995, a bomb was set off in a van parked in front of an American-run military training center in the Saudi Arabian capital of Riyadh, killing five Americans and two Indians. Saudi Arabian authorities arrested four Saudi nationals whom they claim confessed to the bombings, but U.S. officials were denied permission to see or question the suspects before they were convicted and beheaded in May 1996.

-On 25 June 1996, a booby-trapped truck loaded with 5,000 pounds of explosives was exploded outside the Khobar Towers apartment complex which housed United States military personnel in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killing nineteen Americans and wounding about three hundred others. Once again, the U.S. investigation was hampered by the refusal of Saudi officials to allow the FBI to question suspects.
On 21 June 2001, just before the American statute of limitations would have expired, a federal grand jury in Alexandria, Virginia, indicted thirteen Saudis and an unidentified Lebanese chemist for the Khobar Towers bombing. The suspects remain in Saudi custody, beyond the reach of the American justice system. (Saudi Arabia has no extradition treaty with the U.S.)

-On 7 August 1998, powerful car bombs exploded minutes apart outside the United States embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, killing 224 people and wounding about 5,000 others. Four participants with ties to Osama bin Laden were captured, convicted in U.S. federal court, and sentenced to life in prison without parole in October 2001. Fourteen other suspects indicted in the case remain at large, and three more are fighting extradition in London.

-On 12 October 2000, two suicide bombers detonated an explosives-laden skiff next to the USS Cole while it was refueling in Aden, Yemen, blasting a hole in the ship that killed 17 sailors and injured 37 others. No suspects have yet been arrested or indicted. The investigation has been hampered by the refusal of Yemini officials to allow FBI agents access to Yemeni nationals and other suspects in custody in Yemen.
(The USS Cole bombing occurred one month before the 2000 presidential election, so even under the best of circumstances it was unlikely that the investigation could have been completed before the end of President Clinton's term of office three months later.)

In August 1998, President Clinton ordered missile strikes against targets in Afghanistan in an effort to hit Osama bin Laden, who had been linked to the embassy bombings in Africa (and was later connected to the attack on the USS Cole). The missiles reportedly missed bin Laden by a few hours, and Clinton was widely criticized by many who claimed he had ordered the strikes primarily to draw attention away from the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

Oh, and also, between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion — the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We were then on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009, but Bush screwed that one up.

You should check your facts before you get all fired up on the computer.

[sadie]

You should check your facts before you get all fired up on the computer.


OMG, you just don't know who you are talking to. :D

[sandy]

Again, how many attacks have there been here since 911?:rolleyes:

Oh, and you "forgot" to link to Snopes as your source. I've read that whole link before.:rolleyes:

Clinton was a fornicator who embarrassed the whole country/presidency with his abhorrant behavior.:( He will forever be remembered as the Monica Lewinsky president. He was a pathetic excuse for a president especially when he signed the Immigration Act of 1996 into law without a clue. The ONLY thing I give his admin credit for is expanding use of the net.

[sandy]

[QUOTE=Applejuice;42358]Bush has had his entire presidency to "smoke 'em out" ,,,

You know, the more I read your posts the more you sound like Kat. Is that you? Back again??:rolleyes:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

[QUOTE=Applejuice;42358]Bush has had his entire presidency to "smoke 'em out" ,,,

You know, the more I read your posts the more you sound like Kat. Is that you? Back again??:rolleyes:

So anyone that has the knowledge to get to you is Kat.......i am certain of one thing and that is you have no foundation for making such an accusation....

[Hydra Sports]

Sandy you are totally right. Not to mention that if Monica was at least beautiful the country could have overlooked it as they did with JFK and Marilyn. But no he had to pick a fat ugly hog. I mean he was the President for crying out loud and he couldn't get a better looking peice of a$$ then that on the side?!?!? I have no respect for Hillary especially after this episode. If she didn't have the backbone to stand up to her husband about him doing so fat nasty looking thing she sure as hell won't have the balls to stand up to a terrorist or another country when things get tough.

[SlighDawg]

I like Applejuice....

[SlighDawg]

Sandy you are totally right. Not to mention that if Monica was at least beautiful the country could have overlooked it as they did with JFK and Marilyn. But no he had to pick a fat ugly hog. I mean he was the President for crying out loud and he couldn't get a better looking peice of a$$ then that on the side?!?!? I have no respect for Hillary especially after this episode. If she didn't have the backbone to stand up to her husband about him doing so fat nasty looking thing she sure as hell won't have the balls to stand up to a terrorist or another country when things get tough.

YEAH! Imagine the HORROR! Our president of this great United States doing a fat hog!!! Oh the embarrassment.

I actually think Hillary made the right choice, if she had dumped him her political career would have suffered greatly, but in forgiving him she showed that she is a loyal and faithful wife. It is no secret that their marriage was over at that point moving forward, they live in separate houses fer crying out loud.

I think Hillary would have a much better head to handle diplomacy than our current prezeedent does. Hell, I would vote for Condi, she's another brilliant woman.

[Eileenacanadian]

American Idol is so boring this year, so far, that we are talking about everything but AI LOL!

[Applejuice]

Your only response to me proving everything you wrote as false is "how many attacks have there been since 9/11"? You aren't gonna admit that you were wrong? Wow, nor only are you a Bush Lover, you're just like him too.

Am I required to link my source? It wasn't on purpose I guarantee you. By all means I do apologize, here it is:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/clinton.htm

But doesn't all that do is prove you even more wrong? Since the purpose of Snopes is to dispel urban legands/rumors and all?

Also, if you had already read what I wrote, why did you list those lies in the first place if you knew they were unfounded?

I have no idea who Kat is.

[sadie]

So anyone that has the knowledge to get to you is Kat.......i am certain of one thing and that is you have no foundation for making such an accusation....

I didn't know she had to have any foundation for making any statement or accusation.


THR, did you forget whom you were addressing? :D

[Hydra Sports]

What Sandy was sayig was that there have been no attacks on our soil here withing the USA. You get Hillary in ans we'll see what happens then. She will remove our troops from Iraq as she says... or maybe she won't she is pretty flip flopper. But let's just say she does. Iran will move right into Iraq. Take control of all their oil. Opec then will not have a say on oil prices so we will be lucky if we get gas at the pump for $10 a gallon. We will be attacked within our own soil in her one term as President and you know what will happen. She will cower down just like she did whn Bill was doing his little side tramp. She went and hid like there was nothing wrong. Sorry but hiding and acting like everything will be ok if we just ignore a situation just won't work with these people. Or haven'e you learned that yet?

[SlighDawg]

No, what Sandy was saying was "I don't care what the truth is, I love our prezeedent".

You can speculate all you want on what Hillary would do, the truth of the matter is, she is a brilliant human and W is a moron. No president acts without advisers. Only the incredibly stupid (W) will act without listening to advice and intelligence reports. This is what he did by invading the wrong country and stretching our resources so thin.

Now, if Hillary DOES manage to pull our troops out, and Iran DOES invade Iraq, and say oil does go up to 10.00 per gal, that only goes to show that this war really IS all about oil. It wouldn't have happened if dumbya had just stayed home and minded his own business. He made this mess and now it's up to our brave young men and women to pay for his mistakes with their own blood, limbs and lives.

Plus, if we bring our troops home, and if we DO get attacked on our own soil, at least we will have some military resources with which to fight. I am scared as crap right now that we will be attacked, because we simply can not protect our own borders right now because we are stretched so thin in the Middle East.

It is easier for you to speculate than it is to face facts, but you have to admit, it IS time for you 2 or 3 Bushies to face the facts. He is a moron, and he screwed up the balance of power in the middle east without the strength or smarts to tip it in our favor. Had he just gone after Bin Laden and concentrated on that, the world would be a far better place than it is right now. This is not speculation. This is fact.


Hussein was just executed for killing 5000 of his people. Bush has killed 655000 Iraqis and 3000 US service members.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001442.html

This number is 20 times higher than Bush reported in a speech in December of 2006. You talk about ignoring a situation... man.... I can only shake my head in disbelief that anyone would think W is a good prezeedent after the travesty he has brought upon the world.

[sandy]

Hillary is a pathetic, dishonest, untrustworthy, useless, b!tch. It's all about her. It always has been. Her life has been full of scandals.:(

W is awesome. He has the courage to stand up to the bullies (Iraq, Iran...). I don't want to live under sharia. Do you?

The evil muslims in Iraq, helped by those from Iran and Syria, have killed more people there than we did. And Bush killed no one.:(

ISLAMIC Terrorists killed 16,791 Iraqi civilians last year. 225 were killed collaterally in incidents involving Americans and Islamic Terrorists.
Iraqis aren't dying from war. They are being murdered by Islamic terrorists.

Saddam killed up to 1.5 million of his own people. W was the only one with the b@lls to take him out.

I know what the truth is and I admire/love my awesome president George W.
Bush.:)

*Source: IraqBodyCount.net (includes civilians caught in crossfire who may have been killed by the terrorists, and terrorists who may have been counted as civilians)

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[Hydra Sports]

What I like about GW is that he does what he says he is going to do. I see no other politician that is of the same caliber. He knows what NEEDS to be done and is doing what he can to get the job done and he stands by his convictions. Liberals would rather help the terrorists we are fighting then to let GW do the job that is at hand.

I actually do hope that Hillary does win the democratic nomination because there is NO WAY IN HELL this country would ever trust her to lead this country into the future. I work with a diehard democrat and even he said that he would not vote her in. She is just too untrustworthy. Not to mention she will do a complete 180 on what ever stance she take if she thinks it will give her more vote. So please bring Hillary on! It will be like a gimme for the Republican Party.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

No, what Sandy was saying was "I don't care what the truth is, I love our prezeedent".

You can speculate all you want on what Hillary would do, the truth of the matter is, she is a brilliant human and W is a moron. No president acts without advisers. Only the incredibly stupid (W) will act without listening to advice and intelligence reports. This is what he did by invading the wrong country and stretching our resources so thin.

Now, if Hillary DOES manage to pull our troops out, and Iran DOES invade Iraq, and say oil does go up to 10.00 per gal, that only goes to show that this war really IS all about oil. It wouldn't have happened if dumbya had just stayed home and minded his own business. He made this mess and now it's up to our brave young men and women to pay for his mistakes with their own blood, limbs and lives.

Plus, if we bring our troops home, and if we DO get attacked on our own soil, at least we will have some military resources with which to fight. I am scared as crap right now that we will be attacked, because we simply can not protect our own borders right now because we are stretched so thin in the Middle East.

It is easier for you to speculate than it is to face facts, but you have to admit, it IS time for you 2 or 3 Bushies to face the facts. He is a moron, and he screwed up the balance of power in the middle east without the strength or smarts to tip it in our favor. Had he just gone after Bin Laden and concentrated on that, the world would be a far better place than it is right now. This is not speculation. This is fact.


Hussein was just executed for killing 5000 of his people. Bush has killed 655000 Iraqis and 3000 US service members.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001442.html

This number is 20 times higher than Bush reported in a speech in December of 2006. You talk about ignoring a situation... man.... I can only shake my head in disbelief that anyone would think W is a good prezeedent after the travesty he has brought upon the world.

I think it's hopeless Sligh.....I do believe that Sandy and her minions are in the minority and it just frustrates them....Why else would they continue to defend a pres. such as W he is a ridiculous person and he would rather strut around feeling important than care about all the deaths he is responsible for....

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I didn't know she had to have any foundation for making any statement or accusation.


THR, did you forget whom you were addressing? :D

You are correct Sadie I guess I did forget who I was addressing she likes to pull from her thoughts....

[SlighDawg]

Well it's obvious when you cite valid points, with backup links, and they are ignored and answered with "He's the best prezeedent, that's why!"

Still its fun to stir them up.

[RushDog]

I actually do hope that Hillary does win the democratic nomination because there is NO WAY IN HELL this country would ever trust her to lead this country into the future. I work with a diehard democrat and even he said that he would not vote her in. She is just too untrustworthy. Not to mention she will do a complete 180 on what ever stance she take if she thinks it will give her more vote. So please bring Hillary on! It will be like a gimme for the Republican Party.

I trust Hillbillary as far I can throw Sundance.

[Eileenacanadian]

What Sandy was sayig was that there have been no attacks on our soil here withing the USA. You get Hillary in ans we'll see what happens then. She will remove our troops from Iraq as she says... or maybe she won't she is pretty flip flopper. But let's just say she does. Iran will move right into Iraq. Take control of all their oil. Opec then will not have a say on oil prices so we will be lucky if we get gas at the pump for $10 a gallon. We will be attacked within our own soil in her one term as President and you know what will happen. She will cower down just like she did whn Bill was doing his little side tramp. She went and hid like there was nothing wrong. Sorry but hiding and acting like everything will be ok if we just ignore a situation just won't work with these people. Or haven'e you learned that yet?

Hilary lying low after her husband's affair was broadcasted was the right thing to do for her. She doesn't owe the American's anything by licking her wounds in front of you! Her personal life is separate! She handled that whole thing with dignity. How humiliating it must have been for her. She should be congratulated that she put that whole humiliating experience behind her and that she was able to forgive her husband. Not many could do that. There is no pleasing you if you found fault in that!!!!!!!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Hilary lying low after her husband's affair was broadcasted was the right thing to do for her. She doesn't owe the American's anything by licking her wounds in front of you! Her personal life is separate! She handled that whole thing with dignity. How humiliating it must have been for her. She should be congratulated that she put that whole humiliating experience behind her and that she was able to forgive her husband. Not many could do that. There is no pleasing you if you found fault in that!!!!!!!

There is no pleasing a lot of the Far Right conservative republicans....

[sandy]

She should have divorced him. He's a pig. But she wants the power that comes with being married to him. It's all about her. It always has been.

"In 1994, the Clinton administration got a call from Jimmy Carter — probably collect — who was with the then-leader of North Korea, saying: "Hey, Kim Il Sung is a total stud, and I've worked out a terrific deal. I'll give you the details later."
Clinton promptly signed the deal, so he could forget about North Korea and get back to cheating on Hillary. Mission accomplished." -Ann Coulter

[Hydra Sports]

Hey Eileen, sorry to tell you but the truth is when you take the responsibility as being the President or even say a Hollywood star you give up the rights to a private life.

The people of this country deserve to know who exactly it is they have running the show. And as far as stars go they gave up the right to privacy when they cashed that big old check that us dumb asses are paying for.

And I totally have to disagree the honorable thing would be to tell horny old bill to pack his bags and GTF out. I would hold her in a much higher regard if she showed some backbone. But no she didn't then and she won't when push comes to shove and terrorists start doing bad things to our country. She will take it lying down and cower as it is in most liberal’s blood... Ohhh let's just pretend everything is alright and maybe the bad guys will go away.

Just like when Regan got elected it wasn't because he was a push over that got those 400 or so hostages released; it was the knowledge that if they didn't get release we would kill every last one of those SOB's holding them hostage.

The best defense is a great offence. That is the way the world works. Speak softly but carry a bigger stick then everyone else, and don't be afraid to use it. That is the way to keep peace in the world.

[sandy]

"I was not enthusiastic about the last Gulf war. Of course, it goes without saying, I rooted for our team once the shooting started. But I wasn't for that war. I was also against sending Americans to the Balkans. My point is, I'm genuinely against America deploying troops without a really, really good reason. I just can't imagine anyone not seeing 9/11 as a really good reason for wiping out Islamic totalitarians." - Ann Coulter

[RushDog]

Just like when Regan got elected it wasn't because he was a push over that got those 400 or so hostages released; it was the knowledge that if they didn't get release we would kill every last one of those SOB's holding them hostage.

The best defense is a great offence. That is the way the world works. Speak softly but carry a bigger stick then everyone else, and don't be afraid to use it. That is the way to keep peace in the world.

That's right. The Iranians released those hostages the day Reagan was elected because they knew what would happen if they didn't. They couldn't push around Reagan, like they could Carter.

[Applejuice]

Sandy are you still going to just ignore the fact that I proved all the points you made in your original post as false?

Also, as a devout Christian as you claim to be, isn't it against god and the bible and all that stuff you believe in to lie? Because you were knowingly lying and spreading propaganda and I called you out on it and you have not responded to it.

All you've done is change the subject to Hilary Clinton. The fact that she stayed with Bill after he got bl*wn by Monica doesn't make her weak. If you've read Bills book, watched interviews with him and or her then you will see that they worked through it and it was difficult but they worked it out- like many married couples in the world, and like many politicians in the past present and future- he's not the only one who has ever done such a thing. Not that I support it but I think it's ridiculous that it turned into the circus that it did. It has nothing to do with how he was as a president and he was a great president. But you will never see that.

Ignorance is bliss.

[Hydra Sports]

I think I just threw up some Applejuice. Yea they worked it out alright... I'll stay in NY and you in DC. This way I can't see you boinking every intern you want. Talk about ignorance it bliss; and this is who you would like to run our country. That's right... I did not have sexual relations with that woman... my cigar did.

Hell she can do that with the country... "Well if they only attack Hollywood I'll still be in DC and won't see anything and I can act as if nothing happened."

What a crock and what a liberal.

[sandy]

Carter: the worst president EVER!:(

[SlighDawg]

"I was not enthusiastic about the last Gulf war. Of course, it goes without saying, I rooted for our team once the shooting started. But I wasn't for that war. I was also against sending Americans to the Balkans. My point is, I'm genuinely against America deploying troops without a really, really good reason. I just can't imagine anyone not seeing 9/11 as a really good reason for wiping out Islamic totalitarians." - Ann Coulter

Do you have an original thought in your head or are you only capable of parroting whichever redneckbot is speaking? I mean, it's good to have heroes, but you should try to formulate a little thought along the way. If I wanted to read Coulter I would go to the faux news channel and read it.

You do realize that she is advocating genocide there, don't you? Re-read the carpet bombing statement. I'm going to pray extra hard for you.

[sandy]

I think it should be Ann Coulter day since she is ALL OVER the news from her Edwards remark. I think she's brilliant and I LOVE reading her quotes and columns. She's awesome!:D

VESTER: "You say you’d rather not talk to liberals at all?" COULTER: "I think a baseball bat is the most effective way these days.":D

[SlighDawg]

Sandy are you still going to just ignore the fact that I proved all the points you made in your original post as false?

Also, as a devout Christian as you claim to be, isn't it against God and the bible and all that stuff you believe in to lie? Because you were knowingly lying and spreading propaganda and I called you out on it and you have not responded to it.

All you've done is change the subject to Hilary Clinton. The fact that she stayed with Bill after he got bl*wn by Monica doesn't make her weak. If you've read Bills book, watched interviews with him and or her then you will see that they worked through it and it was difficult but they worked it out- like many married couples in the world, and like many politicians in the past present and future- he's not the only one who has ever done such a thing. Not that I support it but I think it's ridiculous that it turned into the circus that it did. It has nothing to do with how he was as a president and he was a great president. But you will never see that.

Ignorance is bliss.

Now see Sandy, this is how you lose souls. Do you think that Applejuice will ever want to be associated with a Christian BECAUSE of the hate you spew? If you affect only ONE person, you are grievously damaging them, and yourself.

By the way Applejuice, I capitalized God in quoting your post because I AM a Christian, and I walk in love. Not perfect, but a lot closer to the truth than what Ms Fake Christian here spouts. She doesn't know how absolutely wrong she's gotten it.

Don't judge ALL Christians by what a few noisy and misguided ones do or say.

[sandy]

We already know Kat is Applejuice and we don't care.

[RushDog]

Now see Sandy, this is how you lose souls. Do you think that Applejuice will ever want to be associated with a Christian BECAUSE of the hate you spew? If you affect only ONE person, you are grievously damaging them, and yourself.

By the way Applejuice, I capitalized God in quoting your post because I AM a Christian, and I walk in love. Not perfect, but a lot closer to the truth than what Ms Fake Christian here spouts. She doesn't know how absolutely wrong she's gotten it.

Don't judge ALL Christians by what a few noisy and misguided ones do or say.


Slighdawg, are we a little cranky this morning? Would you like some coffee?:D

[sandy]

She thinks Kat/Applejuice will be affected by anything I say:rolleyes:

[SlighDawg]

Slighdawg, are we a little cranky this morning? Would you like some coffee?:D

I did get up too early this morning... dang puppy. I'm past the coffee stage, now I'm munching pepper jack cheese and crackers. Washing it down with soda. Yum.

It just pizzes me off when people spout hate and Christianity in one breath. And to think that what you do or say doesn't plant a seed is just more stupidity. Even if no one else is watching, God is still watching.

[sandy]

God is watching AND listening. He has NO problem with anything I'm saying here or I would feel convicted real fast.

The brutal truth p!sses off most liberals.

"Liberals refuse to condemn what societies have condemned for thousands of years - e.g., promiscuity, abortion, illegitimacy, homosexuality..." - AC

[RushDog]

I did get up too early this morning... dang puppy. I'm past the coffee stage, now I'm munching pepper jack cheese and crackers. Washing it down with soda. Yum.



Breakfast of champions!

Was your dog yalping this morning? Mine used to that. He can't stand to sleep in a room by himself. He has to be either in my room, or one of my daughters' rooms. Otherwise, he whines like baby.

[SlighDawg]

Oy! I can't have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

[SlighDawg]

Breakfast of champions!

Was your dog yalping this morning? Mine used to that. He can't stand to sleep in a room by himself. He has to be either in my room, or one of my daughters' rooms. Otherwise, he whines like baby.

Actually, she was sleeping on my neck, with her tiny li'l head nestled under my chin, when she woke up she started chewing on my hair and face so I knew it was time to get up. That was about 5 am.

Another reason I'm cranky is I have the house to myself (Hubby at a class) and bike week just started yesterday... but it's rainy and cold out! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[RushDog]

Actually, she was sleeping on my neck, with her tiny li'l head nestled under my chin, when she woke up she started chewing on my hair and face so I knew it was time to get up. That was about 5 am.

Another reason I'm cranky is I have the house to myself (Hubby at a class) and bike week just started yesterday... but it's rainy and cold out! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Yeah, I hate when it's rainy and cold. Very depressing.

[Eileenacanadian]

Hey Eileen, sorry to tell you but the truth is when you take the responsibility as being the President or even say a Hollywood star you give up the rights to a private life.

The people of this country deserve to know who exactly it is they have running the show. And as far as stars go they gave up the right to privacy when they cashed that big old check that us dumb asses are paying for.

And I totally have to disagree the honorable thing would be to tell horny old bill to pack his bags and GTF out. I would hold her in a much higher regard if she showed some backbone. But no she didn't then and she won't when push comes to shove and terrorists start doing bad things to our country. She will take it lying down and cower as it is in most liberal’s blood... Ohhh let's just pretend everything is alright and maybe the bad guys will go away.

Just like when Regan got elected it wasn't because he was a push over that got those 400 or so hostages released; it was the knowledge that if they didn't get release we would kill every last one of those SOB's holding them hostage.

The best defense is a great offence. That is the way the world works. Speak softly but carry a bigger stick then everyone else, and don't be afraid to use it. That is the way to keep peace in the world.

Don't you think that with Hilary not losing her mind on Bill publicly or divorcing him shows strength? Doesn't that show that she can roll with the punches and that nothing holds her down. The details on Monica and Bill's relationship with the cigar and dress would be enough to put you on anti-depressants but she got through it. Even their daughter showed strength by not disowning him! I can imagine what Hilary did to Bill behind closed doors but she remained a lady with incredible strength infront of the public. Women can say she is stupid for staying but she's not a quiter. She's fights for what she believes in. She's got spunk! For that I respect her.:lsvader:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Don't you think that with Hilary not losing her mind on Bill publicly or divorcing him shows strength? Doesn't that show that she can roll with the punches and that nothing holds her down. The details on Monica and Bill's relationship with the cigar and dress would be enough to put you on anti-depressants but she got through it. Even their daughter showed strength by not disowning him! I can imagine what Hilary did to Bill behind closed doors but she remained a lady with incredible strength infront of the public. Women can say she is stupid for staying but she's not a quiter. She's fights for what she believes in. She's got spunk! For that I respect her.:lsvader:

You are so right Eileen Hillary did show her strenght......I am proud of her as being a wife (even if my husband passed away) and mother.....If more women let their spouses know in privacy what they thought then we would not have such a high divorce rate...

[RushDog]

Don't you think that with Hilary not losing her mind on Bill publicly or divorcing him shows strength? Doesn't that show that she can roll with the punches and that nothing holds her down. The details on Monica and Bill's relationship with the cigar and dress would be enough to put you on anti-depressants but she got through it. Even their daughter showed strength by not disowning him! I can imagine what Hilary did to Bill behind closed doors but she remained a lady with incredible strength infront of the public. Women can say she is stupid for staying but she's not a quiter. She's fights for what she believes in. She's got spunk! For that I respect her.:lsvader:

Eileen, you also seem like you have some spunk. However, I keep thinking of Dexy's Midnight Runners, every time I see your name pop up.

I think there were some knock down, drag outs in the Clinton household.

I don't think their daughter would disown him. Little girls always love their daddy, no matter what.

Maybe she stayed with him because she remembered all the good times they had. Maybe the good times, outweighed the bad.

[Hydra Sports]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on Hillary. I think it shows that she has no guts to stand on her own, she only stayed because that was where the power was and if she would have left she would be leaving all that power of which she craves, and I think it show no moral fiber. To let someone walk over you like that and just sit there and take it like nothing happened does not show strength; it show weakness. And a person who is weak and a person who will let others walk all over them is a person we do not need running our country.

It takes real class to say I'm not taking it any more, but she took the high road for self gratification... POWER!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on Hillary. I think it shows that she has no guts to stand on her own, she only stayed because that was where the power was and if she would have left she would be leaving all that power of which she craves, and I think it show no moral fiber. To let someone walk over you like that and just sit there and take it like nothing happened does not show strength; it show weakness. And a person who is weak and a person who will let others walk all over them is a person we do not need running our country.

It takes real class to say I'm not taking it any more, but she took the high road for self gratification... POWER!

I am so happy to be chatting with you......:rolleyes: It seems like you are close friends with the Clinton's....

[Hydra Sports]

So what your saying is that you would let your husband cheat on you in front of say your town where everyone knows... and you know it was not just one time... do disgusting sexual acts with these women; and you would still just take him back. I doubt it.

I can tell you right now I would be down the road because that my friend is not a marriage. It's not like they really are together, I mean it is only in name alone since they don't really live together. All their marriage is is an arrangement of convenience. That show weakness not strength. Strength would be to go out into the world and win it in her own terms and not on her cheat husband’s coattails.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

So what your saying is that you would let your husband cheat on you in front of say your town where everyone knows... and you know it was not just one time... do disgusting sexual acts with these women; and you would still just take him back. I doubt it.

I can tell you right now I would be down the road because that my friend is not a marriage. It's not like they really are together, I mean it is only in name alone since they don't really live together. All their marriage is is an arrangement of convenience. That show weakness not strength. Strength would be to go out into the world and win it in her own terms and not on her cheat husband’s coattails.

How often do you see the Clinton's let them know I said how proud of them I am.....

[Eileenacanadian]

Eileen, you also seem like you have some spunk. However, I keep thinking of Dexy's Midnight Runners, every time I see your name pop up.

I think there were some knock down, drag outs in the Clinton household.

I don't think their daughter would disown him. Little girls always love their daddy, no matter what.

Maybe she stayed with him because she remembered all the good times they had. Maybe the good times, outweighed the bad.

What is Dexy's Midnight Runners? Do I want to know? LOL!

I think you have a good heart "Rush"

[Eileenacanadian]

So what your saying is that you would let your husband cheat on you in front of say your town where everyone knows... and you know it was not just one time... do disgusting sexual acts with these women; and you would still just take him back. I doubt it.

I can tell you right now I would be down the road because that my friend is not a marriage. It's not like they really are together, I mean it is only in name alone since they don't really live together. All their marriage is is an arrangement of convenience. That show weakness not strength. Strength would be to go out into the world and win it in her own terms and not on her cheat husband’s coattails.
The presidents marry good women to help them get into the Whitehouse. They can't marry skanks with colorful backgrounds. If Hilary can use Bill's influence to get into the White House all the power to her! YOU GO GIRL!!! HA HA!

[gingles]

Again, how many attacks have there been here since 911?:rolleyes:

Oh, and you "forgot" to link to Snopes as your source. I've read that whole link before.:rolleyes:

Clinton was a fornicator who embarrassed the whole country/presidency with his abhorrant behavior.:( He will forever be remembered as the Monica Lewinsky president. He was a pathetic excuse for a president especially when he signed the Immigration Act of 1996 into law without a clue. The ONLY thing I give his admin credit for is expanding use of the net.

I can't stand Bill Clinton either. He was a terrible president and role model.

[Eileenacanadian]

Bill Clinton was disgusting with what he did to Hilary but he is a very smart man. I can't imagine what it would be like to have the whole world know your dirt. Like Hugh Grant when he was busted with that hooker. Man, you are in the dog house so deep with your family but to have the world know on top of that must be horrifying. I sympathize because I'm a Pisces lol. That's what we do...Sympathize that is.

[SlighDawg]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on Hillary. I think it shows that she has no guts to stand on her own, she only stayed because that was where the power was and if she would have left she would be leaving all that power of which she craves, and I think it show no moral fiber. To let someone walk over you like that and just sit there and take it like nothing happened does not show strength; it show weakness. And a person who is weak and a person who will let others walk all over them is a person we do not need running our country.

It takes real class to say I'm not taking it any more, but she took the high road for self gratification... POWER!

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with YOU on Hillary. Having once had a husband who was a philanderer, let me tell you, the EASIEST thing to do is to cut and run. It would have taken incredible strength for me to have decided to stay and forgive him. Instead I moved to Chicago and met my next husband. :p

If she had left him it would have only been good for her career, and you are a case in point. Unless you've been through, or can empathize with someone who has been through what Hillary did with Bawdy Bill, you would never have an inkling of the strength and character that she displayed throughout that ordeal.

I still say she is a brilliant, and strong, woman. I think the "woman" part is the part you are having problems with, no?

[SlighDawg]

What is Dexy's Midnight Runners? Do I want to know? LOL!

I think you have a good heart "Rush"

They were an 80's Scottish band that had a huge hit with "Come on Eileen" and now I'm singing it to myself.

THANKS RUSH. :mad: :D

[TaylorHicksRocks]

God is watching AND listening. He has NO problem with anything I'm saying here or I would feel convicted real fast.

The brutal truth p!sses off most liberals.

"Liberals refuse to condemn what societies have condemned for thousands of years - e.g., promiscuity, abortion, illegitimacy, homosexuality..." - AC

This is where you are wrong God wants us to love everybody even our enemies however you choose to degrade your enemies to make yourself look better and sound better but it doesn't it just makes the rest of us Christians look bad in others eyes....and you wonder why some who practice Islam hate us so much....because of people like you Sandy because of people like you...i don't believe you live your life the way God would want you too...it's either your way or the highway...It's not God's way....

[sadie]

Now see Sandy, this is how you lose souls. Do you think that Applejuice will ever want to be associated with a Christian BECAUSE of the hate you spew? If you affect only ONE person, you are grievously damaging them, and yourself.

By the way Applejuice, I capitalized God in quoting your post because I AM a Christian, and I walk in love. Not perfect, but a lot closer to the truth than what Ms Fake Christian here spouts. She doesn't know how absolutely wrong she's gotten it.

Don't judge ALL Christians by what a few noisy and misguided ones do or say.
We may not agree on everything Sligh, but you hit the nail on the head here!!!
Thanks for saying it!!!:p :p :p :p
God is watching AND listening. He has NO problem with anything I'm saying here or I would feel convicted real fast.

The brutal truth p!sses off most liberals.

"Liberals refuse to condemn what societies have condemned for thousands of years - e.g., promiscuity, abortion, illegitimacy, homosexuality..." - AC
OMG, I can not believe that you could actually think that God has no problem with your posts!!!!
Of course, I can believe you would say that, just to appease yourself.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

We may not agree on everything Sligh, but you hit the nail on the head here!!!
Thanks for saying it!!!:p :p :p :p

OMG, I can not believe that you could actually think that God has no problem with your posts!!!!
Of course, I can believe you would say that, just to appease yourself.

Exactly eventually enough folks will have had enough of her or they will turn her into a lost soul.....or is she already.....

[Hydra Sports]

I actually do not have any issues with her being a "her". :) I would vote for Condi given the chance. I stand by what I believe and that is Hillary would not have the backbone to deal with an aggressor if one came at the USA, and there is a darn good possibility there will be given Hillary gets in.

I want someone with conviction and stamina. I feel these are qualities Hillary is seriously lacking. How much would you like to bet that if Hillary gets the democratic nomination she will loose no matter who runs against her. People plain and simple do not trust her.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I actually do not have any issues with her being a "her". :) I would vote for Condi given the chance. I stand by what I believe and that is Hillary would not have the backbone to deal with an aggressor if one came at the USA, and there is a darn good possibility there will be given Hillary gets in.

I want someone with conviction and stamina. I feel these are qualities Hillary is seriously lacking. How much would you like to bet that if Hillary gets the democratic nomination she will loose no matter who runs against her. People plain and simple do not trust her.

Obviously some trust her or else she would not be running....:rolleyes:

[SlighDawg]

She is, it's the saddest thing. To claim hate in the name of the Lord.

Go look up Matt 22 vs30-40, and Mark 12 vs 30-31. Luke 10 vs 27.

There's God's problem with hate.

[sadie]

Exactly eventually enough folks will have had enough of her or they will turn her into a lost soul.....or is she already.....

Let's pray for her. :)

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Let's pray for her. :)

I do every night for both her and Scott.......

[sadie]

She is, it's the saddest thing. To claim hate in the name of the Lord.

Go look up Matt 22 vs30-40, and Mark 12 vs 30-31. Luke 10 vs 27.

There's God's problem with hate.

Woohoo Sligh, you are a good girl!!!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

She is, it's the saddest thing. To claim hate in the name of the Lord.

Go look up Matt 22 vs30-40, and Mark 12 vs 30-31. Luke 10 vs 27.

There's God's problem with hate.

Awesome Sligh.....maybe she will read them I have my Bible right here next to me.......Great verses!

[sadie]

I do every night for both her and Scott.......

You are a good girl!!!!

:) you are better than I dear, better than I, by far :)

[TaylorHicksRocks]

You are a good girl!!!!

:) you are better than I dear, better than I, by far :)

I don't think so Sissy...you are a terrific lady yourself!;)

[sadie]

I don't think so Sissy...you are a terrific lady yourself!;)

Thank You Sissy!!

You always make me feel better.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Thank You Sissy!!

You always make me feel better.

As you do me that's why we are Sissy's we are just missing one.....Our Lizzy...We help each other and are always there for each other....:)

[sandy]

"If she (Hillary) had left him it would have only been good for her career."

That is dead wrong. Hillary needs Bill's popularity, name recognition, money, and power to get where she got. If she divorced him, she would never have been able to run for president.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

"If she (Hillary) had left him it would have only been good for her career."

That is dead wrong. Hillary needs Bill's popularity, name recognition, money, and power to get where she got. If she divorced him, she would never have been able to run for president.

Not true she could have done whatever she wanted.....

[Applejuice]

We already know Kat is Applejuice and we don't care.

I honestly have absolutely no clue who Kat is and I swear I am not her... but I would like to meet her, it sounds like we'd get along great!

I have nothing against Christians that practice what they preach. I know a lot of wonderful Christians who don't judge and who really do care about and help people out of the kindness of their hearts- but I also know athiests and other non-Christians who are just as wonderful and caring. I also know Christians who are judgemental and vindictive, just as I know people who are not Christian who are the same way. I don't think that a religion or beliefs that go along with said religion are what make somebody "good", I believe that that is up to the individual and the choices they make. Who are you to judge somebody who gets an abortion if you don't know their situation? Many people have babies that definitely should not have and their children grow up neglected and/or abused or worse. Sometimes abortion is the lesser of two evils. Maybe the focus could be redirected to the thousands of children in foster care or who are up for adoption. Many of them are abused and neglected and many die in foster care. Too much energy goes into convincing 17 year old crystal meth addicts that they will go to hell if they abort their child- but what about when that child is born? Who cares then? Are you going to adopt them and give them a good home?

By the way, Sandy, you still have not addressed my proving your original post to be false and you have repeatedly ignored my other posts. Should I take that as you admitting that you (like a good Christian) knowingly lied and leave it at that? Because I am beginning to grow tired of all this since we will never make a difference in each others beliefs, we may as well just agree to disagree.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I honestly have absolutely no clue who Kat is and I swear I am not her... but I would like to meet her, it sounds like we'd get along great!

I have nothing against Christians that practice what they preach. I know a lot of wonderful Christians who don't judge and who really do care about and help people out of the kindness of their hearts- but I also know athiests and other non-Christians who are just as wonderful and caring. I also know Christians who are judgemental and vindictive, just as I know people who are not Christian who are the same way. I don't think that a religion or beliefs that go along with said religion are what make somebody "good", I believe that that is up to the individual and the choices they make. Who are you to judge somebody who gets an abortion if you don't know their situation? Many people have babies that definitely should not have and their children grow up neglected and/or abused or worse. Sometimes abortion is the lesser of two evils. Maybe the focus could be redirected to the thousands of children in foster care or who are up for adoption. Many of them are abused and neglected and many die in foster care. Too much energy goes into convincing 17 year old crystal meth addicts that they will go to hell if they abort their child- but what about when that child is born? Who cares then? Are you going to adopt them and give them a good home?

By the way, Sandy, you still have not addressed my proving your original post to be false and you have repeatedly ignored my other posts. Should I take that as you admitting that you (like a good Christian) knowingly lied and leave it at that? Because I am beginning to grow tired of all this since we will never make a difference in each others beliefs, we may as well just agree to disagree.


Applejuice I think we will get a long just fine!;) Where have you been? We need your wisdom around here....

[Applejuice]

Awww, thanks THR- glad to have a friend on this board! :) I honestly just came across this site because of American Idol- I had no clue I'd be in a political debate! It's really strange to be though because I know nobody in real life with these views, so, it's quite interesting. :D

[sandy]

He's been banned and reappearing under several different names. That's why he's on ignore.:rolleyes:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Awww, thanks THR- glad to have a friend on this board! :) I honestly just came across this site because of American Idol- I had no clue I'd be in a political debate! It's really strange to be though because I know nobody in real life with these views, so, it's quite interesting. :D

I don't either....it's very strange and to think that she says she is a Christian yet spews her hate on everything.....It gives us Christians that do love and try to help those in need a bad name....

[sandy]

I hate what God hates: sin, baby-killing, sodomy, homosexuality, laziness, etc...:(
And I love what God loves: getting people saved, getting people to church, being generous, etc...:)

God hates evil together with those who have deliberately chosen evil. If one believes that God has not and will not ever send a human being to Hell, then such person is a heretic. :(

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I hate what God hates: sin, baby-killing, sodomy, homosexuality, laziness, etc...:(
And I love what God loves: getting people saved, getting people to church, being generous, etc...:)

God hates evil together with those who have deliberately chosen evil. If one believes that God has not and will not ever send a human being to Hell, then such person is a heretic. :(

God doesn't hate! People hate......not God he is loving....I guess you don't read the Bible you just quote certain verses and take them out of context...

[RushDog]

What is Dexy's Midnight Runners? Do I want to know? LOL!


They were a one-hit wonder from the '80's. Their only hit was a song called, "Come On, Eileen".