An Inconvenient Truth

[TaylorHicksRocks]

For those of you who do not know about the film........It is something we should all take the time to see.....

An Inconvenient Truth explores data and predictions regarding climate change, interspersed with personal events from the life of Al Gore. Through a Keynote presentation (dubbed "the slide show") that he has presented worldwide, Gore reviews the scientific evidence for global warming, discusses the politics and economics of global warming, and describes the consequences he believes global climate change will produce if the amount of human-generated greenhouse gases is not significantly reduced in the very near future.

The film includes many segments intended to refute critics who say that global warming is insignificant or unproven. For example, Gore discusses the risk of the collapse of a major ice sheet in Greenland or West Antarctica, either of which could raise global sea levels by approximately 20 feet (6m), flooding coastal areas and producing 100 million refugees. Meltwater from Greenland, because of its lower salinity, could halt the Gulf Stream current and quickly trigger dramatic local cooling in Northern Europe.

In an effort to explain the global warming phenomenon, the film examines annual temperature and CO2 levels for the past 600,000 years in Antarctic ice core samples. An analogy to Hurricane Katrina is used for those familiar with the 30-ft to 45-ft (9 to 14m) waves that destroyed almost a million homes in coastal Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, and Florida.

The documentary ends with Gore noting that if appropriate action is taken soon, the effects of global warming can be successfully reversed by releasing less carbon dioxide and growing more plants or trees. Gore calls upon viewers to learn how they can help in this initiative.

Gore's book of the same title was published concurrently with the theatrical release of the documentary. The book contains additional, detailed information, scientific analysis, and Gore's commentary on the issues presented in the documentary.

Taken from wikipedia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inconvenient_Truth

[sandy]

We know all about it ad nauseum. It's a farse. Just like alGore. We have bigger problems (like evil muslims who want us all converted or dead) and 50 million criminal aliens ruining our country.

Oh, and alGore is a hypocrite. When he starts riding a bike or horse instead of SUVs/limos/jets, then I'll listen. What a hot air bag.

Global Hot Air...:rolleyes:

[sandy]

Inconvenient Al’s mansion consumes 20x more energy than the average household. The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization, released the following report:

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.
Gore’s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).:mad:
In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.
The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.
Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.
Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.:(
Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.
“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.
In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.:eek:

HYPOCRITE!!!:mad:

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367

[sandy]

Even the big investors say global warming is just a bunch of hot air. Investors are shunning 'global warming' as 'a bubble,' 'social short-term craze', lots of hoopla over nothing.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=email_en&refer=exclusive&sid=aqBr9N4m4Rko

[RushDog]

Inconvenient Al’s mansion consumes 20x more energy than the average household. The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization, released the following report:

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.
Gore’s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).:mad:
In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.
The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.
Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.
Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.:(
Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.
“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.
In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.:eek:

HYPOCRITE!!!:mad:

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367


I heard this same thing on the radio, on the Bob and Tom show, this morning on the way home from work.

[sandy]

I think alGore needs a new cause. This one is not big/current enough. Most Americans are concerned about today and tomorrow. Not 500 years from now.

If he would take up something like the border then I could really support his ideas. But not this global hot air.

[RushDog]

I think alGore needs a new cause. This one is not big/current enough. Most Americans are concerned about today and tomorrow. Not 500 years from now.

If he would take up something like the border then I could really support his ideas. But not this global hot air.

I think he needs to downsize. It's just him and Tipper now. The kids are all grown up and moved out.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Well what a day my son had........He is in 5th grade and at school yesterday they watched An Inconvenient Truth at school......Seems that the administration feels like this film is important enough to educate our children....Nothing could have thrilled me more. We do need to educate the next generation they will have to deal with all the damage that previous generations did to our planet.......

[sandy]

I just read that alGore travels on private jets all the time and they burn double the amount of fuel as a regular jet. Hypocrite...:mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8yf7ea4D_Q

[sadie]

Well what a day my son had........He is in 5th grade and at school yesterday they watched An Inconvenient Truth at school......Seems that the administration feels like this film is important enough to educate our children....Nothing could have thrilled me more. We do need to educate the next generation they will have to deal with all the damage that previous generations did to our planet.......

THR, we all need to take responsibility for our environment. This lack of caring for the nature God gave us is pathetic.

But as usual, people want to blame others, but it will be our children's children who look back at us and shake their heads in disgust.

Just because Al Gore doesn't do what he should, is that a reason I shouldn't......
:11doh:

[sadie]

Dam* that echo. Could it just be me?

[RushDog]

I just read that alGore travels on private jets all the time and they burn double the amount of fuel as a regular jet. Hypocrite...:mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8yf7ea4D_Q

Yeah, if Big Al was so concerned about the envronment, he would fly commercial on whatever business trips he has, and he would either move to a smaller house, or go totally solar.

Go hug a tree, Al!

[sadie]

So Al Gore is our 'look to guy'!!
Man you guys need to find a new hero.

Some people never want to actually DO anything to help, they just want to whine about why they can't or shouldn't.

Lazy, candy a#$ slackers if you ask me.

[sandy]

Gore is a hypocrite. He's been busted and he's not even denying it. He's a "limousine liberal"--the worst kind. Do as I say, not as I do. Everything he says or does is to call attention to himself. He has several huge homes with pools etc... using tons of energy unnecessarily.:mad:

He could use videoconferenging instead of flying his private jet all over the world.

I find him repulsive.:rolleyes:

[sadie]

Gore is a hypocrite. He's been busted and he's not even denying it. He's a "limousine liberal"--the worst kind. Do as I say, not as I do. Everything he says or does is to call attention to himself. He has several huge homes with pools etc... using tons of energy unnecessarily.:mad:

He could use videoconferenging instead of flying his private jet all over the world.

I find him repulsive.:rolleyes:

So what!

Does that mean you can't help our environment? Or are you just one of those slackers that just choose not to help?

[RushDog]

Gore is a hypocrite. He's been busted and he's not even denying it. He's a "limousine liberal"--the worst kind. Do as I say, not as I do. Everything he says or does is to call attention to himself. He has several huge homes with pools etc... using tons of energy unnecessarily.:mad:

He could use videoconferenging instead of flying his private jet all over the world.

I find him repulsive.:rolleyes:

Good point! Videoconferencing would save alot of energy and money.

Yeah, he's just out to make a buck, just like everyone else.

Go hug a tree, Al!

[sadie]

dam# that echo

[sandy]

You can conserve until the cows come home and all your hard work will be obliterated by just one person who doesn't. Everyone on this board could conserve and alGore would wipe out their efforts too, probably in one week.:mad:

If it makes you feel better, then do it. I do a lot of things that are very green but I don't tell the world about it. Actions speak louder than words.:)

And I am WAY at the bottom of the polluters list. (No diapers, no discarding used tires, recycle, no dumping batteries, no smoking, don't use fireplaces, drive a newer, small sports car (most of the time) less than 8,000 mp/year, not a frequent flyer, no septic system, no commercial chemicals used in my house (mostly natural products), don't eat much meat, make virtually no garbage, use enviro-friendly everything, conserve everything, use fluro bulbs, have an airtight house, plant trees and flowers, buy recycled products, etc...

So you could say I'm being a good steward of the planet without being a nutjob about it.:D

[RushDog]

You can conserve until the cows come home and all your hard work will be obliterated by just one person who doesn't. Everyone on this board could conserve and alGore would wipe out their efforts too, probably in one week.:mad:

If it makes you feel better, then do it. I do a lot of things that are very green but I don't tell the world about it. Actions speak louder than words.:)

And I am WAY at the bottom of the polluters list. (No diapers, no discarding used tires, recycle, no dumping batteries, no smoking, don't use fireplaces, drive a newer, small sports car (most of the time) less than 8,000 mp/year, not a frequent flyer, no septic system, no commercial chemicals used in my house (mostly natural products), don't eat much meat, make virtually no garbage, use enviro-friendly everything, conserve everything, use fluro bulbs, have an airtight house, plant trees and flowers, buy recycled products, etc...

So you could say I'm being a good steward of the planet without being a nutjob about it.:D

Well, it looks like you're doing all you can!

Good job!

[sandy]

I'm sure you are too. Most of us probably don't drive diesel daily or burn firewood, or TRY to pollute/be a bad steward on purpose. But I don't want some moron lecturing me on how to save the planet when he is a hypocrite!

[RushDog]

I'm sure you are too. Most of us probably don't drive diesel daily or burn firewood, or TRY to pollute/be a bad steward on purpose. But I don't want some moron lecturing me on how to save the planet when he is a hypocrite!

Yeah, we recycle. I don't use diesel. If I lived closer to work, I would walk, like when I lived in Japan. Unfortunately, they don't have public transportation here, and that would be a nice option as well. I used to love to take the subway to work, when I worked at the Pentagon. It was so convenient. Burning firewood is another pet peeve of mine. People don't realize how bad it pollutes the air.

[sadie]

Oh, so now we are suddenly.......Mr and Mrs Green......yeah right!!

[RushDog]

I'm sure you are too. Most of us probably don't drive diesel daily or burn firewood, or TRY to pollute/be a bad steward on purpose. But I don't want some moron lecturing me on how to save the planet when he is a hypocrite!

I'm glad we're both doing all we can for the environment, aren't you Sandy?

I'm thinking about joining the Village Green Preservation Society.

I really enjoy chatting with you. I feel like we're the only ones here, sometimes. It's crazy!

[sandy]

Yes Rush, I agree totally. You are so smart. And I didn't know you worked at the Pentagon. WOW!:)

We are the ones being good conservative, Christian, Republicans.:D
And that's a VERY good thing.

[RushDog]

Yes Rush, I agree totally. You are so smart. And I didn't know you worked at the Pentagon. WOW!:)



Aw shucks, it was nothin'!

Time for Idol!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

All right enough about Al he is green......his home is entirely green.....At least he is doing something! Unlike others that just like to talk bad about someone they know nothing about.......How many cars do you own? How many plane trips have you taken? How many times do you really try to recycle? Everything.......do you use old jeans as insulation? Did you even know that is a green thing to do?

[sandy]

Another story blowing the lid off the global hot air argument:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54483

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Another story blowing the lid off the global hot air argument:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54483

What? It's not global hot air......it's global warming and a fact but if you choose not to be green that is your decision.....myself I want to do whatever I can for our world there are going to be people living here long after I have gone to meet my maker........

[sandy]

It's global hot air. A farce. But we all have our own beliefs. I am not so pompous that I think I can personally destroy planet earth. Or that man can. And if you saw the list of things I do as a habit, you will see I contribute virtually no pollution.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

It's global hot air. A farce. But we all have our own beliefs. I am not so pompous that I think I can personally destroy planet earth. Or that man can. And if you saw the list of things I do as a habit, you will see I contribute virtually no pollution.

No driving, your home is run from solar energy, you recycle everything, you never fly, you plant trees, there are so many ways that pollution is caused.....

[sandy]

I have to drive and fly, but not much. Solar would never heat my house when the windchill is -40. Need backup source. And my previous post:


"And I am WAY at the bottom of the polluters list. (No diapers, no discarding used tires, recycle, no dumping batteries, no smoking, don't use fireplaces, drive a newer, small sports car (most of the time) less than 8,000 mp/year, not a frequent flyer, no septic system, no commercial chemicals used in my house (mostly natural products), don't eat much meat, make virtually no garbage, use enviro-friendly everything, conserve everything, use fluro bulbs, have an airtight house, plant trees and flowers, buy recycled products, etc...

So you could say I'm being a good steward of the planet without being a nutjob about it."

I'm sure I could do more. It's just sad that we could all make ourselves crazy over this when someone like Gore wipes out our efforts in one week.:rolleyes:

[sandy]

Oh, and I have no problem with Gore getting the award. I just think it should have been for science fiction:p

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54499

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I have to drive and fly, but not much. Solar would never heat my house when the windchill is -40. Need backup source. And my previous post:


"And I am WAY at the bottom of the polluters list. (No diapers, no discarding used tires, recycle, no dumping batteries, no smoking, don't use fireplaces, drive a newer, small sports car (most of the time) less than 8,000 mp/year, not a frequent flyer, no septic system, no commercial chemicals used in my house (mostly natural products), don't eat much meat, make virtually no garbage, use enviro-friendly everything, conserve everything, use fluro bulbs, have an airtight house, plant trees and flowers, buy recycled products, etc...

So you could say I'm being a good steward of the planet without being a nutjob about it."

I'm sure I could do more. It's just sad that we could all make ourselves crazy over this when someone like Gore wipes out our efforts in one week.:rolleyes:


Get off the Gore train he has done wonders for our Country and he is no longer a politician..........He is a envirmentalist......I have a 2002 vehicle with less than 50,000 miles on it I walk more than I drive....I take one garbage bag every two weeks for trash.....Planting trees since I have moved here only about a dozen....that's in a year and a half......I think of the future for our children.....

[sandy]

Do you even get how hypocritical Gore is??? If he was living in a cabin in the woods I would respect his suggestions but he owns/lives in mansions that suck energy, flies private jets that pollute worse than commercial, drives around in gas-guzzling SUVs etc... I'm just saying if someone is going to champion a cause, don't be a hypocrite about it.:rolleyes:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Do you even get how hypocritical Gore is??? If he was living in a cabin in the woods I would respect his suggestions but he owns/lives in mansions that suck energy, flies private jets that pollute worse than commercial, drives around in gas-guzzling SUVs etc... I'm just saying if someone is going to champion a cause, don't be a hypocrite about it.:rolleyes:

His homes are green! Do you know what that means? how do you know what he drives? He is doing what he can......he does not fly that much anymore....unlike some of our former politicians.....You don't like AL because he is a democrat admit it....

[sandy]

I like him just fine but he is still a hypocrite. If you read all the stories I posted you would see the hypocrisy.

His homes are green but he is spending 20X as much as the average Americann in energy costs. Makes no sense to me.

He flies all over the world promoting his hot air theory. Plus he flies private jet which burns 2X the fuel of commercial.:mad:

I think he deserves the science fiction award.:D So do many experts.

[sandy]

"Even right-wingers who know that "global warming" is a crock do not seem to grasp what the tree-huggers are demanding. Liberals want mass starvation and human devastation. :rolleyes:

Forget the lunacy of people claiming to tell us the precise temperature of planet Earth in 1918 based on tree rings. Or the fact that in the '70s liberals were issuing similarly dire warnings about "global cooling."

Simply consider what noted climatologists Al Gore and Melissa Etheridge are demanding that we do to combat their nutty conjectures about "global warming." They want us to starve the productive sector of fossil fuel and allow the world's factories to grind to a halt. This means an end to material growth and a cataclysmic reduction in wealth.

There are more reputable scientists defending astrology than defending "global warming," but liberals simply announce that the debate has been resolved in their favor and demand that we shut down all production.:mad:

They think they can live in a world of only Malibu and East Hampton — with no Trentons or Detroits. It does not occur to them that someone has to manufacture the tiles and steel and glass and solar panels that go into those "eco-friendly" mansions, and someone has to truck it all to their beachfront properties, and someone else has to transport all the workers there to build it. (And then someone has to drive the fleets of trucks delivering the pachysandra and bottled water every day.)

Liberals are already comfortably ensconced in their beachfront estates, which they expect to be unaffected by their negative growth prescriptions for the rest of us.

There was more energy consumed in the manufacture, construction and maintenance of Leonardo DiCaprio's Malibu home than is needed to light the entire city of Albuquerque, where there are surely several men who can actually act. But he has solar panels to warm his house six degrees on chilly Malibu nights.

Liberals haven't the foggiest idea how the industrial world works. They act as if America could reduce its vast energy consumption by using fluorescent bulbs and driving hybrid cars rather than SUVs. They have no idea how light miraculously appears when they flick a switch or what allows them to go to the bathroom indoors in winter — luxuries Americans are not likely to abandon because Leo DiCaprio had solar panels trucked into his Malibu estate.

Our lives depend on fossil fuel. Steel plants, chemical plants, rubber plants, pharmaceutical plants, glass plants, paper plants –- those run on energy. There are no Mother Earth nursery designs in stylish organic cotton without gas-belching factories, ships and trucks, and temperature-controlled, well-lighted stores. Windmills can't even produce enough energy to manufacture a windmill.

Because of the industrialization of agriculture –- using massive amounts of fossil fuel — only 2 percent of Americans work in farming. And yet they produce enough food to feed all 300 million Americans, with plenty left over for export. When are liberals going to break the news to their friends in Darfur that they all have to starve to death to save the planet?

"Global warming" is the left's pagan rage against mankind. If we can't produce industrial waste, then we can't produce. Some of us — not the ones with mansions in Malibu and Nashville is my guess — are going to have to die. To say we need to reduce our energy consumption is like saying we need to reduce our oxygen consumption.

Liberals have always had a thing about eliminating humans. Stalin wanted to eliminate the kulaks and Ukranians, vegetarian atheist Adolf Hitler wanted to eliminate the Jews, Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger wanted to eliminate poor blacks, DDT opponent Rachel Carson wanted to eliminate Africans (introduction to her book "Silent Spring" written by ... Al Gore!), and population-control guru Paul Ehrlich wants to eliminate all humans.:mad:

But global warming is the most insane, psychotic idea liberals have ever concocted to kill off "useless eaters." If we have to live in a pure "natural" environment like the Indians, then our entire transcontinental nation can only support about 1 million human beings. Sorry, fellas — 299 million of you are going to have to go.

Proving that the "global warming" campaign is nothing but hatred of humanity, these are the exact same people who destroyed the nuclear power industry in this country 30 years ago.

If we accept for purposes of argument their claim that the only way the human race can survive is with clean energy that doesn't emit carbon dioxide, environmentalists waited until they had safely destroyed the nuclear power industry to tell us that. This proves they never intended for us to survive.

"Global warming" is the liberal's stalking horse for their ultimate fantasy: The whole U.S. will look like Amagansett, with no one living in it except their even-tempered maids (for "diversity"), themselves and their coterie (all, presumably, living in solar-heated mansions, except the maids who will do without electricity altogether). The entire fuel-guzzling, tacky, beer-drinking, NASCAR-watching middle class with their over-large families will simply have to die.

It seems not to have occurred to the jet set that when California is as poor as Mexico, they might have trouble finding a maid. Without trucking, packaging, manufacturing, shipping and refrigeration in their Bel-Air fantasy world, they'll be chasing the rear-end of an animal every time their stomachs growl and killing small animals for pelts to keep their genitals warm.":D

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

[sandy]

Repent!

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/28/video-a-terrifying-message-from-al-gore/

:rolleyes:

[X1TX]

All the 'global warming' hot air is pretty much that. I do agree that we should attempt to minimize the garbage we put into the air. But that is also driven by economics. As energy becomes more expensive, technologies will continue to develop to reduce any of the waste. The 'polluting' plants also don't want to dump garbage into the air because it's waste, something they're not selling or making a profit from. Saying that producers 'want to kill our ecosystem' is intellectually vapid at best.

But the 'global warming' theory is just that, a theory. And to date it hasn't withstood the scrutiny of the scientific method. Climatological models are complex and the science is still not mature. To date there has been no clear 'cause and effect' linkage made (other than some technically dubious ones in the UN report). I'm still unconvinced, from a scientific point of view, that mankind is the dominant threat to our environment.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I do think mankind has something to do with Global Warming.......we have very few palces in which to dispose of garbage.......barges just floating around the oceans that are just another way of dealing with the trash....if more people did all they could to recycle I do believe our world would become a better one......

[X1TX]

Agree that we need to do the best we can to reduce the waste. But pure economics will drive that. Several companies have made it big by figuring out ways of taking what was once waste and turning it inito a useful product (biodiesel is one prime example). As our technologies improve, and economics drive us there, we'll vastly eliminate our waste. What is not needed is:
1: A "government solution"
2: A "UN solution"
3: A new beuracracy to 'help' us eliminate waste
4: A global "environment tax" (yes, this is being pushed by the UN and it's not a joke)

Most things that improve the quality of our lives is driven by economics (the typical supply/demand cycle) and technological improvements driven by the economics. Rarely have any government imposed programs led to any significant improvement in our lives. And economics will eventually drive our society to become 'greener'.

Automobiles for example: As fuel becomes more expensive, people demand more 'efficient' vehicles. The way to become more fuel efficient is to use more of the energy contained in the gallon of fuel. When more is used, less is rejected as waste. Net result, this helps the air get cleaner.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Agree that we need to do the best we can to reduce the waste. But pure economics will drive that. Several companies have made it big by figuring out ways of taking what was once waste and turning it inito a useful product (biodiesel is one prime example). As our technologies improve, and economics drive us there, we'll vastly eliminate our waste. What is not needed is:
1: A "government solution"
2: A "UN solution"
3: A new beuracracy to 'help' us eliminate waste
4: A global "environment tax" (yes, this is being pushed by the UN and it's not a joke)

Most things that improve the quality of our lives is driven by economics (the typical supply/demand cycle) and technological improvements driven by the economics. Rarely have any government imposed programs led to any significant improvement in our lives. And economics will eventually drive our society to become 'greener'.

Automobiles for example: As fuel becomes more expensive, people demand more 'efficient' vehicles. The way to become more fuel efficient is to use more of the energy contained in the gallon of fuel. When more is used, less is rejected as waste. Net result, this helps the air get cleaner.


I guess this is why my husband and I bought a new Toyota in 2002 and I have fewer than 50,000 miles on it.....even after moving to the country in Wisconsin from a larger city in NV......I find when I start my car I take care of as many errands as possible......otherwise I walk everywhere I go....whatever I can do to help our environment I do.....

[sandy]

alGore breached security at the airport. HA!!:D

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/01/heart-ache-goracle-breaches-security-at-nashville-airport/#comment-276685

[TaylorHicksRocks]

alGore breached security at the airport. HA!!:D

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/01/heart-ache-goracle-breaches-security-at-nashville-airport/#comment-276685

Do you ever get bored with these kind of comments? I often wonder how you can live a Christian life style while you treat people you feel are unworthy of living the way you don't consider up to par with your standards.....Such a hypocrite......

[sandy]

No, I find the hypocrite of the year getting busted at the airport a funny story. And I find your snipping at me like a mosquito very annoying.:(

[TaylorHicksRocks]

No, I find the hypocrite of the year getting busted at the airport a funny story. And I find your snipping at me like a mosquito very annoying.:(

He is not the hypocrite of the year........he has only just recently been in the news..Now the hypocrite of the year goes to.......drum roll please......W.! That's right our very own president.....

[sandy]

W is no hypocrite. He wants us safe from evil muslims so he protects us.
He makes sure they are being watched,followed, caught.
He wants to know what they're plotting so he monitors their phone calls.
He wants us to prosper economically so he keeps the business tax cuts in so the trickle-down theory can work etc...

He is the least hypocritical president we have ever had. And the best imo.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

W is no hypocrite. He wants us safe from evil muslims so he protects us.
He makes sure they are being watched,followed, caught.
He wants to know what they're plotting so he monitors their phone calls.
He wants us to prosper economically so he keeps the business tax cuts in so the trickle-down theory can work etc...

He is the least hypocritical president we have ever had. And the best imo.

He is the most hypocritical pres. we have ever had. As long as he has people with their own agenda supporting him we will continue to have the most dimwitted pres. in the history......

[RushDog]

Helloooo! He's only got a year left. How much more support does he really need? Him and Cheney can do whatever they want, they don't have to worry about getting reelected.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Helloooo! He's only got a year left. How much more support does he really need? Him and Cheney can do whatever they want, they don't have to worry about getting reelected.

Well dah.....This has been going on since he was elected in 2000....

[sandy]

Some American Airlines employee helped alGore to go around the TSA security check at the Nashville Airport. Gore folks are saying that the violation was "inadvertent." Yeah right. alGore is the former Vice President of the U.S. He ran for president. He has this whole global warming thing all figured out. He has an Oscar.:rolleyes: He "invented the internet.":rolleyes: All this and he doesn't know that everybody ... and that means Oscar winners ... must go through airport security when boarding a commercial flight? Sorry ... I'm not buying it. What we have here is just another politician -- and it's common to demoncrats trying to exercise their privileges. Glad he got caught.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Some American Airlines employee helped alGore to go around the TSA security check at the Nashville Airport. Gore folks are saying that the violation was "inadvertent." Yeah right. alGore is the former Vice President of the U.S. He ran for president. He has this whole global warming thing all figured out. He has an Oscar.:rolleyes: He "invented the internet.":rolleyes: All this and he doesn't know that everybody ... and that means Oscar winners ... must go through airport security when boarding a commercial flight? Sorry ... I'm not buying it. What we have here is just another politician -- and it's common to demoncrats trying to exercise their privileges. Glad he got caught.

He is not a politician...not anymore! Everyone makes mistakes...well except for you I suppose.....oh wait a minute you support W.!!!!! That is a huge mistake.....

[RushDog]

Well dah.....This has been going on since he was elected in 2000....

That's were you're wrong. It's been going on long before that. I've deployed over several times during the 90's, along with places like Bosnia and Somalia, which were both during the Clinton era. So, if you think this world is going to be more peaceful, and we're going to quit policing the world, once he's gone, then you're sadly mistaken. It's going to get worse.

[RushDog]

He is not a politician...not anymore! Everyone makes mistakes...well except for you I suppose.....oh wait a minute you support W.!!!!! That is a huge mistake.....

That's weak.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

That's were you're wrong. It's been going on long before that. I've deployed over several times during the 90's, along with places like Bosnia and Somalia, which were both during the Clinton era. So, if you think this world is going to be more peaceful, and we're going to quit policing the world, once he's gone, then you're sadly mistaken. It's going to get worse.

Read everything before you reply I was speaking about W. we were not in this situation until he came into the office....where our middle class is stuggling and the poor are getting poorer.....I know we have always had troops stationed through out the world for decades......I am not an idiot......I am well awars of the troubles we have had......I do think that Clinton should have done soemthing while he was in office but I don't think he would have attacked a country that had nothing to do things like the USS Cole......I never voted for Clinton because remember I have been non-partisan until this week when i went and changed to Democrat......some people who are Republicans are walking around with there head in the clouds.......No cares in the world because they don't have to worry about feeding their family or how to get good health care....This is due to W. giving them such huge breaks....and who was it that cut the Military to begin with.....oh yeah the first Bush wasn't it.....well I guess he made a big mistake.....

[sandy]

You forgot about the evil muslims' attack on us while Clinton was pres?

[RushDog]

You forgot about the evil muslims' attack on us while Clinton was pres?

No way! That never happened. The U.S.S Cole attack never happened!

[RushDog]

Read everything before you reply I was speaking about W. we were not in this situation until he came into the office....

What situation are you talking about? War? The Middle East? What? Those things just didn't start after 9/11.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

What situation are you talking about? War? The Middle East? What? Those things just didn't start after 9/11.

I am speaking of the state of our country.......W. and his cronies are responsible but they won't accept responsibilty they blame Rumsfeld for what is going on in Iraq.....I was also speaking about the homeless which has become much worse since W. took office....This is a sad state of our Union...

[sandy]

Yeah, everything bad in this world is W's fault:rolleyes:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Yeah, everything bad in this world is W's fault:rolleyes:

Now you got it.....

[RushDog]

I am speaking of the state of our country.......W. and his cronies are responsible but they won't accept responsibilty they blame Rumsfeld for what is going on in Iraq.....I was also speaking about the homeless which has become much worse since W. took office....This is a sad state of our Union...

WTF are you talking about? We've had homeless long before GW became president! I lived in Washington DC back in the '80's and '90's, where homeless people argued over which concrete slab in front of the White House was their's.

Do you know there are so many homeless? D.R.U.G.S. Crystal Meth and Crack. And, if you blame that on Bush, then you're a moron.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

WTF are you talking about? We've had homeless long before GW became president! I lived in Washington DC back in the '80's and '90's, where homeless people argued over which concrete slab in front of the White House was their's.

Do you know there are so many homeless? D.R.U.G.S. Crystal Meth and Crack. And, if you blame that on Bush, then you're a moron.

I am not blaming the drug problem on W., however our homeless population has increased in the area I live in and has gotten worse every year he has been in office.....No sh!$ about homeless in DC everyone knows that they are there......we have had homeless for so long now.....no one is doing anything about it....sure complain but where does that get anyone....

[sandy]

Personal responsibility. It's that simple.:rolleyes:

[RushDog]

I am not blaming the drug problem on W., however our homeless populkation has increased in the area I live in and has gotten worse every year he has been in office.....No sh!$ about homeless in DC everyone knows that they are there......we have had homeless for so long now.....no one is doing anything about it....sure complain but where does that get anyone....

They reap what they sow. Personal responsibility. If you spend all your money on drugs, then you're S.O.L.

[Hydra Sports]

Al G. has been found out that he is a HUGE hypocrite by his own home expenditures. Period ended. He is a fraud looking for some way back into the spotlight and there are a lot of suckers are being taken in by his rhetoric.

As far as homeless people are concerned it is plain and simple... Get a F'in Job! There homeless problem solved. If they choose to be homeless that is their choice not mine so don't make it my problem.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Al G. has been found out that he is a HUGE hypocrite by his own home expenditures. Period ended. He is a fraud looking for some way back into the spotlight and there are a lot of suckers are being taken in by his rhetoric.

As far as homeless people are concerned it is plain and simple... Get a F'in Job! There homeless problem solved. If they choose to be homeless that is their choice not mine so don't make it my problem.

It's hard to get a job if you don't have a home......I know that a lot of these people lost jobs that were living month to month so it is our responsibility to take care of our people then that is what we should do and not go to another country because W. is greedy and wants more for himself......what a loser for a pres.

[Hydra Sports]

That is what welfair is for. You can get money to get on your feet, however if you milk the system and try to stay on forever your cut off.

We all pay for the welfair system and guess what there won't be a welfair or a retierment SS plan when we retire... do you know why?

Because of all the (in your words) loosers freeloading off us hard working slobs. Sorry but I don't like being screwed over so I have no problem walking by a homeless person without offering anything. Like it was said already personal responsiblity goes a long way.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

That is what welfair is for. You can get money to get on your feet, however if you milk the system and try to stay on forever your cut off.

We all pay for the welfair system and guess what there won't be a welfair or a retierment SS plan when we retire... do you know why?

Because of all the (in your words) loosers freeloading off us hard working slobs. Sorry but I don't like being screwed over so I have no problem walking by a homeless person without offering anything. Like it was said already personal responsiblity goes a long way.

Well I know what Christ would do......and I try to live my life the way he would want us to because without humanity we would all be running around just thinking of ourselves.......

[sandy]

The Bible says if you don't work you don't eat.

[RushDog]

The Bible says if you don't work you don't eat.

God helps those who help themselves.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

The Bible says if you don't work you don't eat.

Quote that show me the verse........is it New or Old testament some people can't work due to diseases or handicaps whatever as Christians we should have a heart!

[sandy]

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him how to fish and you feed him for life.

[RushDog]

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him how to fish and you feed him for life.

I always liked that.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him how to fish and you feed him for life.

So go out and teach.......just as I thought there was no verse to support your theory...Jesus was always feeding those who hungerd....

[sandy]

People already KNOW how to help themselves. Some are just too lazy to do it. My job involves getting people saved. They already know how to fish.:)

[TaylorHicksRocks]

People already KNOW how to help themselves. Some are just too lazy to do it. My job involves getting people saved. They already know how to fish.:)

I was talking about those that are homeless they need our help so they can get on their feet....But I suppose that is beneath you......

[sandy]

There are exceptions to the lazy theory and I am all for helping someone get back on their feet. NOT for supporting someone's lazy @ss the rest of their lives.:(

[TaylorHicksRocks]

There are exceptions to the lazy theory and I am all for helping someone get back on their feet. NOT for supporting someone's lazy @ss the rest of their lives.:(

No one said to support them forever.....I happen to live in a state where welfare is nil....you go and try to get welfare they send you to work.....I am talking about those sleeping outside due to circumstances beyond their control.......

[RushDog]

I was talking about those that are homeless they need our help so they can get on their feet....But I suppose that is beneath you......

The first thing you have to ask is how they got that way. If it's due to misfortune beyond their control such as natural disasters, or if they're in a bad situation due to domestic violence in the home, for example, then there are shelters and programs in place. There are also many agencies who will help them find jobs.

However, if they are homeless, due to drug or alcohol abuse, then as far as I'm concerned, They're S.O.L..

[TaylorHicksRocks]

The first thing you have to ask is how they got that way. If it's due to misfortune beyond their control such as natural disasters, or if they're in a bad situation due to domestic violence in the home, for example, then there are shelters and programs in place. There are also many agencies who will help them find jobs.

However, if they are homeless, due to drug or alcohol abuse, then as far as I'm concerned, They're S.O.L..

That's very Christian of you....myself I will buy someone a sandwich if they have a sign that says hungry will work for food..it makes no difference why they are hungry and how would you know?

[Hydra Sports]

If it is beyond your control I will help in any way I can. I'll give the shirt off my back to help someone out that can not control their circumstances, however, like Rush said. If they do it on their own accord. Oh well sucks to be them.

I do think that instead of sending money to other countries lie we do as in charities we should make those same charities help our own destitute out before helping people outside the USA.

[RushDog]

That's very Christian of you....myself I will buy someone a sandwich if they have a sign that says hungry will work for food..it makes no difference why they are hungry and how would you know?

It does make a difference, because if I give a drug addict money, then he's just going to spend it on more drugs. I'm just contributing to his habit.

You can always tell if they're on drugs or not, just by looking at them, and how they act.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

It does make a difference, because if I give a drug addict money, then he's just going to spend it on more drugs. I'm just contributing to his habit.

You can always tell if they're on drugs or not, just by looking at them, and how they act.

You can huh wow wonders never cease.....I will Buy them something to eat rather than give money.....after all our Lord has given us so much and having a heart is one of them......pay it forward...

[sandy]

How about giving them the 'Help Wanted' section of the local paper? Or is it too much to expect someone to EARN their living?

[TaylorHicksRocks]

How about giving them the 'Help Wanted" section of the local paper? Or is it too much to expect someone to EARN their living?

Well that would be fine and dandy but who is going to give someone a job without an address?

[sandy]

There is no excuse. If someone wants to work they can work. They can go rake leaves in yards for donations from the homeowners. The possibilities are many.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

There is no excuse. If someone wants to work they can work. They can go rake leaves in yards for donations from the homeowners. The possibilities are many.

Well go out and educate instead of complian......now that is some sound advice....

[sandy]

Another alGore story about another one of his inconvenient truths:

Gore has built a Green money-making machine capable of eventually generating billions of dollars for investors, including himself, but he set it up so that the average Joe can't afford to play on Gore's terms. And the US portion is headed up by a former Gore staffer and fund raiser who previously ran afoul of both the FEC and the DOJ, before Janet Reno jumped in and shut down an investigation during the Clinton years.:(

If you're looking to go green, and have your wallet go along with Gore, think again - average people are too insignificant to play....:rolleyes:

Hypocrite.:mad:

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/03/al_gores_inconv.html

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Another alGore story about another one of his inconvenient truths:

Gore has built a Green money-making machine capable of eventually generating billions of dollars for investors, including himself, but he set it up so that the average Joe can't afford to play on Gore's terms. And the US portion is headed up by a former Gore staffer and fund raiser who previously ran afoul of both the FEC and the DOJ, before Janet Reno jumped in and shut down an investigation during the Clinton years.:(

If you're looking to go green, and have your wallet go along with Gore, think again - average people are too insignificant to play....:rolleyes:

Hypocrite.:mad:

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/03/al_gores_inconv.html

Now stop calling the the kettle balck without looking inward......about being a hypocrite of course...

[Hydra Sports]

No sound advice is get off your ass and get a job. Tough love... use it, live it, love it.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

No sound advice is get off your ass and get a job. Tough love... use it, live it, love it.

Aah but we would not be very Christian if we lived our lives that way....now would we......and the foundation of our Country is Christianity....

[Hydra Sports]

Not for long, soon it will be muslim. Thanks to the good natured democrats out there.

[sandy]

Europe is already in trouble with all their muslims:

Islam is well on its way to becoming the most dominant religion in Europe.

While church attendance shows a decline, the level of Muslim religious participation and the Muslim population itself has exploded.:(

More mosques and prayer centers have been built in France than churches over the last century.
Europe has seen a wave of Muslim immigration over the last century, in large part from the countries of North Africa, and some experts predict that they will become the dominant population by the end of this century.:(

**Muslims won't come to terms with what it means to live in the West, the need to compromise with Western values. If that doesn't occur, you'll have a culture war which will dwarf anything we've seen in the United States.":mad:

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200703/INT20070302a.html

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Not for long, soon it will be muslim. Thanks to the good natured democrats out there.

Oh yeah I know about zero Muslim people.......I also know that for the small community I live in we have 7 churches none of which are Muslim or Baptist for that matter...Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran 2, Non Denominational 3.....I don't know where you live but you must be terrified.....myself nope...If anything were to happen I know where I am going.....I will see my husband again, my grandparents and everyone else I have loved and lost.....

[sandy]

But if you keep defending muslims and they overtake the USA (which IS their plan!) you will be wearing a burka, not being allowed to do anything except cook/clean/and breed for a man, have no rights, no money, no nothing. You will be a slave and treated like a camel.

Click on the section about women's rights. You'll puke.:(

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200703/INT20070302a.html

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/022-man-in-charge-of-woman.htm

Religion of peace my @ss:(

[TaylorHicksRocks]

But if you keep defending muslims and they overtake the USA (which IS their plan!) you will be wearing a burka, not being allowed to do anything except cook/clean/and breed for a man, have no rights, no money, no nothing. You will be a slave and treated like a camel.

Click on the section about women's rights. You'll puke.:(

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200703/INT20070302a.html

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/022-man-in-charge-of-woman.htm

Religion of peace my @ss:(


I'm not worried that's not going to happen they would try to kill all of us before they would try to dictate to us what we could or could not do.....Me thinks you are paronoid....

[Jennylove]

THR, we all need to take responsibility for our environment. This lack of caring for the nature God gave us is pathetic.

But as usual, people want to blame others, but it will be our children's children who look back at us and shake their heads in disgust.

Just because Al Gore doesn't do what he should, is that a reason I shouldn't......
:11doh:

this is all good and knowledgeable, especially for our children's children sake, however; I believe we should focus more on the present, u know a certain group of people looking to bomb us all away.......al queda anyone? anybody remember 9/11? Does everyone realize when Pres Clinton was too busy making it with his interns, Bin Laden was brought to him on a silver platter as a huge threat to America! And you know what he did? u got it.........absolutely nada

[TaylorHicksRocks]

this is all good and knowledgeable, especially for our children's children sake, however; I believe we should focus more on the present, u know a certain group of people looking to bomb us all away.......al queda anyone? anybody remember 9/11? Does everyone realize when Pres Clinton was too busy making it with his interns, Bin Laden was brought to him on a silver platter as a huge threat to America! And you know what he did? u got it.........absolutely nada

Where is Bin Laden? Is he in Iraq? I don't think so and yet we continue to funnel more and more troops there and what for? Saddam is dead he is no longer a threat we should be focused on finding Bin Laden or else he will attack again and again....IMO W. is no better than Clinton he has failed as a pres. This hurts our people not Bin Laden.....

[sandy]

I'm not worried that's not going to happen they would try to kill all of us before they would try to dictate to us what we could or could not do.....Me thinks you are paronoid....

They're already trying to kill all of us. Do you think Iran is building a nuke for fun??? Do you think all the terrorist attacks W has prevented were for fun?
Methinks thou hast thou head in the sand.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

They're already trying to kill all of us. Do you think Iran is building a nuke for fun??? Do you think all the terrorist attacks W has prevented were for fun?
Methinks thou hast thou head in the sand.

Oh he prevented attacks huh then why did 9/11 happen and where in the world is Bin Laden? I do believe your head is in the sand I for one am very much informed and have listened to both sides until recently when it has been forced down my throat that you feel like the only people that should live in this country are republicans....that is when I had myself no longer non-partisan but a democrat! I know for a fact all your ranting has done the same to several other people......

[Hydra Sports]

You can not blame 911 on Bush. He was in office what 9 months? This whole thing is a Clinton blunder. He had the chance to get bin ladin but was having fun with a fat ugly pig. No it wasn't even Hillary.

You can not blame 911 on Bush it was in the works way before Bush even became President.

Hell THR you yourself has said Muslims would rather kill us then convert us. Do you think they won't drop a bomb here if they get a chance? They will in a heartbeat. You also seriously don't think they want nukes just for electricity do you???

[SlighDawg]

I'll tell you what I think, 9/11 was in the works long before W got into office, that much is true.

The main catalyst for the entire attack was BECAUSE W is such an idiot. Remember his record before this happened? He was on vacation more than he was in Washington. We had an absentee landlord running the country. The terrorists WAITED until after the elections to see who was going to get in. When they saw it was Bin Ladin's buddy, they jumped in with both feet.

Wait, did I just say Bush's buddy Bin Ladin? You betchya. Read more here:
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html
It has an excellent time line of events and meetings for decades before the attack, and all connecting Bin Laden's family with the Bush family.

Of import, and I quote:
"August
President Bush receives a detailed and lengthy presidential daily briefing from the CIA in which Osama Bin Laden and al Qaeda’s aim of launching an attack against the US is discussed. To this day, the Bush White House refuses to release the contents of this briefing to Congressional inquiries into 9/11.

The CIA finally puts al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar’s name on the watch lists. By then it is too late. The FBI and CIA do a limited search for the men.

Sept. 11/2001
The attack occurs. The morning of the attack George Bush Sr. meets with members of the Carlyle Group in Washington. Bin Laden's own brother is at the meeting. Members of the Bin Laden family are allowed to leave the U.S. without questioning two days later."

Now why, when there was not another aircraft allowed to fly in all of the US, was Bin Laden's family put upon a plane and flown to safety outside of the US? Are you going to blame that on Clinton as well?

[sandy]

"The main catalyst for the entire attack was BECAUSE W is such an idiot."

Do you even get how retarded that is? Evil muslims were planning 911 long before W was here. They didn't care who was POTUS. Their plan was organized/"perfected" right here because NO ONE WAS WATCHING THEM! And their goal was to kill as many of us as they could and cripple our financial center.

I'm more interested in the classified info Sandy Burglar stole. I think you would faint if you knew what Clinton knew and hid. Burglar got away with it so your secrets are still safe.:(

And yeah, I'm gonna trust "Conspiracy Theories" for anything.:rolleyes:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

"The main catalyst for the entire attack was BECAUSE W is such an idiot."

Do you even get how retarded that is? Evil muslims were planning 911 long before W was here. They didn't care who was POTUS. Their plan was organized/"perfected" right here because NO ONE WAS WATCHING THEM! And their goal was to kill as many of us as they could and cripple our financial center.

I'm more interested in the classified info Sandy Burglar stole. I think you would faint if you knew what Clinton knew and hid. Burglar got away with it so your secrets are still safe.:(

And yeah, I'm gonna trust "Conspiracy Theories" for anything.:rolleyes:


You want to remain clueless.....that's your decision but there are plenty of Americans who choose to educate themseves.....

[Hydra Sports]

Yup, the next thing we will hear is that GW planned the attack on the WTC himself just so that we can go to war in Iraq.

I also just heard how spacemen just came down and brought us velcro... that's how we have velcro don't you know???

[RushDog]

Yup, the next thing we will hear is that GW planned the attack on the WTC himself just so that we can go to war in Iraq.

I also just heard how spacemen just came down and brought us velcro... that's how we have velcro don't you know???

Yeah, He and Rudy were the ones who actually planned the attack. They didn't have anything else to do.

I was wondering about that velcro thing. The Velcro Fly!

[sandy]

He said 'fly.' Heh-heh.:D

The conspiracy theorists are a bunch of tards who want to blame all the world's problems on W.:rolleyes:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

He said 'fly.' Heh-heh.:D

The conspiracy theorists are a bunch of tards who want to blame all the world's problems on W.:rolleyes:

Well next we shall blame you.....would that make you feel better.....:rolleyes:

[SlighDawg]

I did not blame W, I blame the fact that he is an idiot.

[sandy]

Bush is smarter than you think. He's techincally smarter than your POTUS wanabe Kerry. His IQ and GPA were higher. He graduated Harvard and Yale. He is awesome. I love him!:D

Let's just face facts here. You hate Bush because he is a Republican, Christian, America-loving/defending/protecting awesome man of God.

"Liberals become indignant when you question their patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrorists a cushion for the next attack and laugh at dumb Americans who love their country and hate the enemy."
Ann Coulter

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Bush is smarter than you think. He's techincally smarter than your POTUS wanabe Kerry. His IQ and GPA were higher. He graduated Harvard and Yale. He is awesome. I love him!:D

Let's just face facts here. You hate Bush because he is a Republican, Christian, America-loving/defending/protecting awesome man of God.

"Liberals become indignant when you question their patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrorists a cushion for the next attack and laugh at dumb Americans who love their country and hate the enemy."
Ann Coulter


Wrong about me hatig Bush I don't hate anyone....That would not be very Christian, however just because he has a high IQ doesn't mean he is the brightest bulb....he has no Common Sense and what good is a high IQ when you have no common sense...sheesh let's face it you love him just because he is a republican....

[sandy]

I love him because he's a true Christian, honest, decent, kind, funny, honorable, wise, brave, courageous, confident, decisive, and he loves America so much that he is risking his legacy to defend her.

And I love him because I know him.:)

And I'm done discussing him on this thread. This thread is about the lisping hypocrite alGore and how he's duping milliions into believing his global hot air.

[RushDog]

What a great name for a band. "The Lisping Gores".

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I love him because he's a true Christian, honest, decent, kind, funny, honorable, wise, brave, courageous, confident, decisive, and he loves America so much that he is risking his legacy to defend her.

And I love him because I know him.:)

And I'm done discussing him on this thread. This thread is about the lisping hypocrite alGore and how he's duping milliions into believing his global hot air.

You love him becuase he is a republican if he were a democrat you would despise him and looking up dirt on him because that's who you are!

[sandy]

:D You're pretty funny.
They could curse us for being such bad stewards of the planet and we could throw tomatoes at them.:D

[RushDog]

:D You're pretty funny.
They could curse us for being such bad stewards of the planet and we could throw tomatoes at them.:D

And the first album will be called, "Hug A Tree"

[Hydra Sports]

I like it "the lisping gores".

I like Bush because he follows through with what he says. What other politican now-a-days can you say that about? You know where he stands and you know where he is going. He stand up for what ought to be done not what will get him the next vote.

[sandy]

Yes;
"Hug a tree!
And be an idiot like me!":D
THAT would be funny!

[sandy]

Now back to Gore:

"I don't know if [former U.S. President Bill Clinton is] gay. But [former U.S. Vice President] Al Gore - total fag." -Ann Coulter:D

[RushDog]

Now back to Gore:

"I don't know if [former U.S. President Bill Clinton is] gay. But [former U.S. Vice President] Al Gore - total fag." -Ann Coulter:D

:yelrotflm

[sandy]

Coulter is awesome. A little bit shy, but awesome.

"Six imams removed from a US Airways flight from Minneapolis to Phoenix are calling on Muslims to boycott the airline. If only we could get Muslims to boycott all airlines, we could dispense with airport security altogether."
-AnnCoulter:D

Maybe I should move this to the Muslim thread. Here's a better one:

"If Gore had been elected president, right now he would just be finding that last lesbian quadriplegic for the Special Forces team."

[RushDog]

Where are you getting these quotes? They're hilarious!

[sandy]

There are a zillion Coulter sites out there. And I think it should be Ann Coulter day since she is in the news for what she said about Edwards. Here are a few more faves:

"The Episcopals don't demand much in the way of actual religious belief. They have girl priests, gay priests, gay bishops, gay marriages -- it's much like The New York Times editorial board. They acknowledge the Ten Commandments -- or "Moses' talking points" -- but hasten to add that they're not exactly "carved in stone." :D

"Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity (as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed')".

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter#Christianity

[SlighDawg]

What a great name for a band. "The Lisping Gores".

HAHAHA! That's a good one. I like you Rush, even if you do lean right. :D At least you have a brain about you!

[RushDog]

HAHAHA! That's a good one. I like you Rush, even if you do lean right. :D At least you have a brain about you!

Well, I am a dog lover like you, so that must count for something.:D

[SlighDawg]

Well, I am a dog lover like you, so that must count for something.:D

It does indeed. I don't trust anyone that says they don't like animals.

[RushDog]

It does indeed. I don't trust anyone that says they don't like animals.

I love dogs. I'd get another one, if my wife would let me. LOL.

[SlighDawg]

I love dogs. I'd get another one, if my wife would let me. LOL.

I didn't plan on this one, she was a "surprise". I love old people and I love dogs, so I had a chance to help both out at the same time. Now I'm cleaning up piddles and poops. My elderly pug is being remarkably good natured about it most of the time. She makes sure to point out any puddles I've missed too. It's quite helpful. :p

[RushDog]

I didn't plan on this one, she was a "surprise". I love old people and I love dogs, so I had a chance to help both out at the same time. Now I'm cleaning up piddles and poops. My elderly pug is being remarkably good natured about it most of the time. She makes sure to point out any puddles I've missed too. It's quite helpful. :p

Wow, you're Pug is pretty smart. I used to have a Chinese Pug when I was a kid, named Pete. I loved that dog. Except for that one time, when he got out and followed me into my school bus. That was so embarassing.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Wow, you're Pug is pretty smart. I used to have a Chinese Pug when I was a kid, named Pete. I loved that dog. Except for that one time, when he got out and followed me into my school bus. That was so embarassing.

My dog is a Mudi and he is very inteligent....He is not even 2 and knows all the commands we have taught him we don't even have to say anything just using hand signals and he knows....

[SlighDawg]

When I was a kid, we had a half pit bull and half Rhodesian ridgeback that would walk all the way to school and hang out all day. The kids loved him, his name was Rufus. He eventually got killed by a car. My babies don't go out at all without me, and a fence or leash.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

When I was a kid, we had a half pit bull and half Rhodesian ridgeback that would walk all the way to school and hang out all day. The kids loved him, his name was Rufus. He eventually got killed by a car. My babies don't go out at all without me, and a fence or leash.

My Harvey has an electric fence as we live in the country we don't have fences out here and he likes to run so he has plenty of room.....

[SlighDawg]

Ugh, I thought I smelled something. How can a 5 lb puppy poop so much??

[SlighDawg]

THR, I would get the invisible fence, but that doesn't keep other dogs out. Plus I'm starting to think the Mini Pin is willfully disobedient. My Bassett was too, but she was so cute you couldn't scold her.


What's a Mudi? I will have to go look that up.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

THR, I would get the invisible fence, but that doesn't keep other dogs out. Plus I'm starting to think the Mini Pin is willfully disobedient. My Bassett was too, but she was so cute you couldn't scold her.


What's a Mudi? I will have to go look that up.

True but being in the country I don't have other dogs in my yard....well once in a while my sister brings her dog over......
Mudi's are a hungarian hearding dog...almost extinct.....The breed is new to the US I beleieve only 35 right now....

[SlighDawg]

I looked them up, cute dog! Not too big, smart and loyal.

Then I looked up mini pinschers, they are smart and headstrong. Ruh Roh. I think I might have a battle ahead of me. I had better subscribe to the newspaper as I think I will be going through quite a bit of it for some time to come.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I looked them up, cute dog! Not too big, smart and loyal.

Then I looked up mini pinschers, they are smart and headstrong. Ruh Roh. I think I might have a battle ahead of me. I had better subscribe to the newspaper as I think I will be going through quite a bit of it for some time to come.

Lol I suppose you should......Harvey was trained when we got him so we didn't have to worry.....he was only 9 weeks old too...

[SlighDawg]

Lucy was partially trained when the old guy got her, but then he let that slip. Apparently Mini Pins will get away with whatever you let them get away with.

Thank goodness Sugar (pug) is standing guard and showing me where the piddles are in case I miss them.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Lucy was partially trained when the old guy got her, but then he let that slip. Apparently Mini Pins will get away with whatever you let them get away with.

Thank goodness Sugar (pug) is standing guard and showing me where the piddles are in case I miss them.

Good sugar.....hopefully it won't take long to get her used to going ouside again....

[sandy]

When answering the question "What will be the sign of Thy Coming," Jesus warned, NOT of global climate change, but rather, of the FEAR of global climate change in the last days. :)

In Luke 21:25-26, Jesus warned, "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring." That certainly captures the global warming controversy in a nutshell: "the distress of nations, with perplexity."

Jesus continued, saying, "Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken."

Jesus didn't warn of global warming, He warned of the PERCEPTION of global warming. :D

He also warned, "And when these things BEGIN to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." (Luke 21:28) Jesus made His prediction 2000 years ago. :D

Ya gotta love Jesus.:D


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54505

[TaylorHicksRocks]

When answering the question "What will be the sign of Thy Coming," Jesus warned, NOT of global climate change, but rather, of the FEAR of global climate change in the last days. :)

In Luke 21:25-26, Jesus warned, "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring." That certainly captures the global warming controversy in a nutshell: "the distress of nations, with perplexity."

Jesus continued, saying, "Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken."

Jesus didn't warn of global warming, He warned of the PERCEPTION of global warming. :D

He also warned, "And when these things BEGIN to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." (Luke 21:28) Jesus made His prediction 2000 years ago. :D

Ya gotta love Jesus.:D


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54505

I hope that you are ready and ask for forgiveness.....I do so every night.

[sandy]

Gore considers himself entitled to fly around the world dumping megatons of carbon-based pollutants in the air to spread his duplicitous message of the human origins of global warming (to which he is contributing – mightily):(

He is entitled to run his mansions with 20 times the energy used by the average household in the U.S.:(

He was entitled to manipulate the sale of strategic oil reserves while vice president to an oil company he and his family held stock in:(

And he even considers himself entitled to the presidency despite the fact he clearly lost an election in 2000 which was confirmed by not one, but three ballot counts.:rolleyes:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Have you asked for forgivness? You really need to.....

[sandy]

Yet ANOTHER documentary kills the global warming hype.

Global hot air:rolleyes:

Accepted theories about man causing global warming are "lies" claims a controversial new TV documentary.

‘The Great Global Warming Swindle’ - backed by eminent scientists - is set to rock the accepted consensus that climate change is being driven by humans.

The program will see a series of respected scientists attack the "propaganda."

Even the co-founder of Greenpeace, Patrick Moore, is shown, claiming African countries should be encouraged to burn more CO2.

Nobody in the documentary defends the greenhouse effect theory, as it claims that climate change is natural, has been occurring for years, and ice falling from glaciers is just the spring break-up and as normal as leaves falling in autumn.

Controversial director Martin Durkin said: "You can see the problems with the science of global warming, but people just don’t believe you – it’s taken ten years to get this commissioned.

"I think it will go down in history as the first chapter in a new era of the relationship between scientists and society. Legitimate scientists – people with qualifications – are the bad guys.

It is a big story that is going to cause controversy. :)

"It’s very rare that a film changes history, but I think this is a turning point and in five years the idea that the greenhouse effect is the main reason behind global warming will be seen as total bollocks. :rolleyes:

"Al Gore might have won an Oscar for ‘An Inconvenient Truth’, but the film is very misleading and he has got the relationship between CO2 and climate change the wrong way round!"

In ‘The Great Global Warming Swindle’ Al Gore is shown claiming this proves the theory, but palaeontologist Professor Ian Clark claims in the documentary that it actually shows the opposite!

Scientists in the program also raise another discrepancy with the official line, showing that most of the recent global warming occurred before 1940, when global temperatures then fell for four decades.

http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=CZ434669U&news_headline=global_warming_is_lies_claims_docume ntary

[sandy]

Damn that global warming (global hot air)!!

http://wwwa.accuweather.com/news-top-headline.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&date=2007-03-04_09:12&month=3&year=2007

[sandy]

February was the coldest month on record in many places including Canada. Damned global warming.:rolleyes:

http://www.thestar.com/article/188324

[sandy]

PETA is after Gore because 'The Most ‘Inconvenient Truth’ according to the U.N., is that animals raised for food generate more greenhouse gases than all cars and trucks combined. Gore's sci-fi drama failed to address the fact that the meat industry is the largest contributor to greenhouse gas emissions:rolleyes:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm

p.s. It was the coldest day since 1950 in MA today. Damned global warming....

[sandy]

"But it is true, Al Gore has inspired me to conserve energy. Whenever I see him on TV, I turn it off.” -Ann Coulter

[sandy]

Just when I thought I heard it all some goofy-@ss muslim cleric is blaming Australia's drought on their lack of faith in Allah. :rolleyes:
Yeah, that's the reason. Not.

Radical sheik Mohammed Omran told followers at his Brunswick mosque that out-of-control secular scientific values had caused environmental disaster.
"The fear of Allah is not there. So we have now a polluted earth, a polluted water, a wasteland. What are the people now crying for? The prophet told you hundreds of years ago.":rolleyes:

The clerics are also railing against "evil" democracy vilifying Jews and Christians and encouraging jihad and polygamy. Muslims are encouraged to take control of Australia by out-breeding non-believers. :mad:

Shieks are forbidding muslims from having less than 4 kids so Australia would become an Islamic state. They are pushing for Sharia, declaring Islam at war with the "sick" West, and gloat that September 11 boosted Muslim numbers.:mad:

[RushDog]

Just when I thought I heard it all some goofy-@ss muslim cleric is blaming Australia's drought on their lack of faith in Allah.

Yeah, that was my first guess.

[sandy]

:D I thought it was Bush's fault :confused:

Isn't everything? :rolleyes:

[sandy]

Imagine this: a blustery winter storm March 16th--right as spring is moving in:confused: Damned this global warming. :rolleyes: ....

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2007-03-16T221441Z_01_N16431790_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-WEATHER-AIRLINES.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

I find it even funnier that horribly cold/snow/icy weather is cancelling all the global warming summits. God does have a sense of humor.:D

[Hydra Sports]

I have to agree with you once again Sandy... This is pretty funny stuff. When EU is always over the limits for emissions why is it that Global Warming is America's fault and up to us to fix it? Sounds like Big Al Gore just trying to make a buck on all us dumb hicks out here in USA.

"I find it even funnier that horribly cold/snow/icy weather is cancelling all the global warming summits. God does have a sense of humor."

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I have to agree with you once again Sandy... This is pretty funny stuff. When EU is always over the limits for emissions why is it that Global Warming is America's fault and up to us to fix it? Sounds like Big Al Gore just trying to make a buck on all us dumb hicks out here in USA.

"I find it even funnier that horribly cold/snow/icy weather is cancelling all the global warming summits. God does have a sense of humor."

It's not up to the US to fix it......that being said we are one of the last developed countries to give a darn about this situation...W we should do everything possible to stop this while we can......Global warming is the reason for a lot of changes in our weather pattern.....

[sandy]

W has bigger problems than alGore's global hot air. W is leading the war on terror (you know, the one against those evil muslims who want us all dead?)
Gore's hype is getting some good press from the BBC though:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54737

[Hydra Sports]

It's not up to the US to fix it......that being said we are one of the last developed countries to give a darn about this situation...W we should do everything possible to stop this while we can......Global warming is the reason for a lot of changes in our weather pattern.....


What are you talking about? It is EU who continually fails to meet all emissions not the US. I feel we are doing our part. Right now instead of our government screwing around to make a light bulb that when is blown you have to discard it as though it is hazardous waist (http://www.ciwmb.ca.gov/WPIE/FluoresLamps/#HowToRecyDis) due to Mercury content; they should be developing new fuel sources or at least economic cars that use 3/4 less fuel then the motors of today.

I mean let's face it these tree hugging people out there want us all now to change to florescent light bulbs what do you think is going to happen. Yes it may save a couple pennies, however the environmental impact of mercury into our earth will be astronomical. I will bet that 85% of people who buy these fluorescent bulbs just throw them away like any other bulb and that mercury goes right into our ground water. Let's just spend the extra pennies and not pollute what is really important to everyone... the ground you walk on and water you drink.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

What are you talking about? It is EU who continually fails to meet all emissions not the US. I feel we are doing our part. Right now instead of our government screwing around to make a light bulb that when is blown you have to discard it as though it is hazardous waist (http://www.ciwmb.ca.gov/WPIE/FluoresLamps/#HowToRecyDis) due to Mercury content; they should be developing new fuel sources or at least economic cars that use 3/4 less fuel then the motors of today.

I mean let's face it these tree hugging people out there want us all now to change to florescent light bulbs what do you think is going to happen. Yes it may save a couple pennies, however the environmental impact of mercury into our earth will be astronomical. I will bet that 85% of people who buy these fluorescent bulbs just throw them away like any other bulb and that mercury goes right into our ground water. Let's just spend the extra pennies and not pollute what is really important to everyone... the ground you walk on and water you drink.

Europe has been using cars that are much better for environment for along time....It is the Americans that want bigger not better...Call us tree huggers if you want to but without trees we would not have oxygen!

[Dea]

I know that I personally used enough Aqua Net in the 80's to cause major ozone damage......

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I know that I personally used enough Aqua Net in the 80's to cause major ozone damage......

As I did however now we are educated.....;)

[Dea]

As I did however now we are educated.....;)

That and big poofy mall hair is no longer in style ;)

[RushDog]

That and big poofy mall hair is no longer in style ;)

Are you saying you had the Peg Bundy look?

[TaylorHicksRocks]

That and big poofy mall hair is no longer in style ;)

So true....what a time that was too.....

[sandy]

More climate researchers have come out against global warming hoopla. 2 British experts say their peers are "overplaying" the global warming message and risk confusing the public about the threat. :(

Professors Paul Hardaker and Chris Collier, both Royal Meteorological Society figures, say some most claims about it can't be justified by the science.
And this damages the credibility of all climate scientists. :(

They think catastrophism and the "Hollywoodization" of weather and climate only work to create confusion in the public mind. :rolleyes:

[sandy]

Global hot air activist fools tried to march in MA this weekend but a snow/ice/sleet storm slowed them.:D

God has a great sense of humor. :biggrinje

[TaylorHicksRocks]

If this winter is any indication looks as if things are certainly warming up and much to fast!:eek:

[sandy]

It was 18 degrees the other morning in IL.
It's 23 in MN.
It's going down to 47 tonite in Malibu. That's cold.
It's going down to 15 in Madison Thursday night.

It's pretty darn cold in some places and it's not even December yet.

I've been reading all over how some places are colder than usual. Climate is ever-changing. Man has nothing to do with it.:rolleyes:

[RushDog]

It's been colder than a well-digger's ass, for the last few days. That global warming is a bunch of crap.

[sandy]

LOL! :D LOVE your new avatar (11-25). They're HOT! :D :boldred:

[RushDog]

LOL! :D LOVE your new avatar (11-25). They're HOT! :D :boldred:

I know. Kelly is just everywhere, isn't she? She's such a mega-superstar.

[sandy]

I know. Kelly is just everywhere, isn't she? She's such a mega-superstar.

I like her. I hope she stays cool. :cool: :D

[RushDog]

I like her. I hope she stays cool. :cool: :D

Yeah, me too. I don't see her turning into Taylor "Where Is He Now?" Hicks. She will be a star for many years to come.

[sandy]

I think so too. She has a HUGE personality that I doubt will end up in oblivion.

How is Taylor's bar coming along? Do you know? I can't find anything about it anywhere.:confused:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Taylor is doing just fine....Kelly is slipping...BTW this thread is for discussing Global warming start a thread in music to discuss music......
:p:p:p:p

[RushDog]

Taylor is doing just fine....Kelly is slipping...BTW this thread is for discussing Global warming start a thread in music to discuss music......
:p:p:p:p

Yep, she's on a world tour, while Taylor is performing in bars.

Global warming is boring, I say we talk about Kelly, Carrie, or Jordin. That's much more fun.

[sandy]

Kelly is slipping? Everytime I turn around I see or hear something about her. Can't say the same for Taylor though.

[RushDog]

Kelly is slipping? Everytime I turn around I see or hear something about her. Can't say the same for Taylor though.

Yeah, slipping on all that money she's making.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Yep, she's on a world tour, while Taylor is performing in bars.

Global warming is boring, I say we talk about Kelly, Carrie, or Jordin. That's much more fun.

Global warming will be an issue for all those of you frying in south soon enough....
Taylor is not playing in bars he plays small venues by his own choice he likes to up close and personal with his fans he played at The Majestic in San Antonio I saw Huey Lewis there oh so many years ago......I also saw Jesus Christ Superstar there in 1994.....
http://www.battersbyornamental.com/majesticproscenium1.jpg

[sandy]

Global warming will be an issue for all those of you frying in south soon enough....
Taylor is not playing in bars he plays small venues by his own choice he likes to up close and personal with his fans he played at The Majestic in San Antonio I saw Huey Lewis there oh so many years ago......I also saw Jesus Christ Superstar there in 1994.....

Use some (*&^%$# punctuation. PLEASE! :smilies3:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Use some (*&^%$# punctuation. PLEASE!

Get a life please........
:p:p:p:p

[RushDog]

Use some (*&^%$# punctuation. PLEASE! :smilies3:

She doesn't know how. She's retarded.

It snowed here today. No global warming. It's all a bunch of bullshiit.

How about them Boston Celtics!

11-1 baby!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

She doesn't know how. She's retarded.

It snowed here today. No global warming. It's all a bunch of bullshiit.

How about them Boston Celtics!

11-1 baby!

I am far from retarded and that is not very Christian of you......

[ktl]

Global warming does not mean that the earth will get hot overnight. It means that the glaciers will start to melt and that will cause problems over the world.

This was a question I asked years ago.

[ktl]

Global warming will be an issue for all those of you frying in south soon enough....
Taylor is not playing in bars he plays small venues by his own choice he likes to up close and personal with his fans he played at The Majestic in San Antonio I saw Huey Lewis there oh so many years ago......I also saw Jesus Christ Superstar there in 1994.....
http://www.battersbyornamental.com/majesticproscenium1.jpg

That is a beautiful theater, thr. I would like to see Taylor Hicks there.

[sandy]

She doesn't know how. She's retarded.
It snowed here today. No global warming. It's all a bunch of bullshiit.
How about them Boston Celtics!
11-1 baby!

I thought the liberals were the elite party of the "educated" etc...:confused: So many of them write/type like 6 year-olds. :rolleyes:

Yeah, record cold all over the place. Global warming my @ss. :rolleyes:

And remember, real Christians use this: :p. Not...

[RushDog]

I thought the liberals were the elite party of the "educated" etc...:confused: So many of them write/type like 6 year-olds. :rolleyes:

Imagine what they sound like.

Yeah, record cold all over the place. Global warming my @ss. :rolleyes:

And remember, real Christians use this: :p. Not...

I could use a little global warming, right now. Brrrr!

[sandy]

Imagine what they sound like. I could use a little global warming, right now. Brrrr!

I know. It's FREEZING all over the place and it's note even December yet. Global warming my @ss. :rolleyes:

There are so many brilliant scientists and climatologists debunking the whole global hot air myth. The liberals just cling to it as another religion. They need a cause. And God forbid it be standing behind their country/president in the war on terror. They're pathetic. :throwup: :mad:

[RushDog]

There are so many brilliant scientists and climatologists debunking the whole global hot air myth. The liberals just cling to it as another religion. They need a cause. And God forbid it be standing behind their country/president in the war on terror. They're pathetic. :throwup: :mad:

Yes, somebody needs to do something about the weather! Who can I call?

[sandy]

Call alGore and ask him where the hell your global warming is. Tell him you want it NOW! :D

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I know. It's FREEZING all over the place and it's note even December yet. Global warming my @ss. :rolleyes:

There are so many brilliant scientists and climatologists debunking the whole global hot air myth. The liberals just cling to it as another religion. They need a cause. And God forbid it be standing behind their country/president in the war on terror. They're pathetic. :throwup:

It's note even December yet? Lol @ Rush his high today is supposed to reach 68 yeah that's cold alright....:rolleyes: Lmao @ Sandy her high is 71 Oh now that is downright freezing......:rolleyes: My high today is 40 but that is warm for this time of year.......

[sandy]

I'm not in CA right now. It was 18 (!!!) degrees the other morning. UNSEASONABLY cold for this time of year. :(

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I'm not in CA right now. It was 18 (!!!) degrees the other morning. UNSEASONABLY cold for this time of year. :(

Well get your ass back to CA.......That is if you are so unhappy with the weather....Now you know where "I live and we have not hit the cold weather associated with winter, "It's all most December and I don't even need my coat yet......:boldblue::boldblue::boldblue:

[sandy]

You don't seem to understand, dear THR. Malibu is smoke-filled and kind of a mess. Anyone who doesn't HAVE to be there shouldn't be. I am going to the desert for my birthday/Christmas. It's supposed to be in the 70s. :)

p.s. Only 29 shopping days until my birthday.....:D :boldred:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

A Christmas baby......How nice!:)

[Son of Simon]

Well...I've watched some of the movie, and reviewed some of the data, and listened to both sides.

I don't think we have enough evidence of global warming to make it the issue that some of us want to make of it.

Ecological data over the past 100 years demonstrates neither a warming nor a cooling trend. I mention cooling because in the 70's scientists were telling us that pollution would start a new "Ice Age".

That theory is no less viable than global warming, because the fact of the matter is- data is constantly changing, and science is constantly progressing. The shrinkage of polar ice caps may really be the "migration" of ice caps, but Polar Bears will still be affected by it. You can't really prove anything because you'd need to demonstrate a statistical significance of 12 years in a 100 year period, somethng that isn't evident from current data.

Is global warming real? Does our pollution create a "shield" that reduces the problem?

We won't know...at least for 12 years. There's no doubt that we are changing the enviornment, but it would be more productive to focus on what may be an immediate problem (CDC in honeybees, for example), rather than sensationalism and stuff that "sells" to our emotions and passions (not to mention our wallets).

You might not have heard of the honeybee issue because it isn't as "sensational" as global warming is. You might not have seen the movie because it didn't have Al Gore, and was shown on PBS. My point is, if people were really concerned about the envionrment they'd be talking to scientists, the most sensible of whom would tell them that driving a hybrid car or recycling aluminum may be a slight help to the planet, but the real support lies in investing in such taboo subjects as improving the safety of nuclear energy, and saving important species like the honeybee, not the soft, cuddly ones that make us say "aww..."

Even if global warming is real- it wouldn't be an imminent threat for at least 100 years.

It's all a business now. Al Gore getting a nobel peace prize is just proof that the richest person who screams the loudest and scares us the most will get the most attention.

-SoS

[TaylorHicksRocks]

SoS what is going on with the honeybee's? I am curious and would like to know what exactly can we do help with this situation?

[Son of Simon]

Well,

Just some background information: we tend to think of honeybees and one food item: honey! So maybe we wouldn't be all that worried if we lost some honey.

But the fact of the matter is that honeybees account for 70% of all agricultural pollination. See- farmers and beekeepers work together for this sytem of having large colonies of bees pollinate crops, and you can imagine it's a huge job, as well as a substantial part of the world's food supply. A lot of the food, fruits and nuts we eat (as well as many other products we use) are facilitated by this pollination.

Anyway- this will probably explain the issue better than I can:

http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSN1930946620070422?feedType=RSS&pageNumber=3&virtualBrandChannel=0

-SoS

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Well,

Just some background information: we tend to think of honeybees and one food item: honey! So maybe we wouldn't be all that worried if we lost some honey.

But the fact of the matter is that honeybees account for 70% of all agricultural pollination. See- farmers and beekeepers work together for this sytem of having large colonies of bees pollinate crops, and you can imagine it's a huge job, as well as a substantial part of the world's food supply. A lot of the food, fruits and nuts we eat (as well as many other products we use) are facilitated by this pollination.

Anyway- this will probably explain the issue better than I can:

http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSN1930946620070422?feedType=RSS&pageNumber=3&virtualBrandChannel=0

-SoS

Wow and the scientists have no idea why they are disappearing.....I hope that the scientist will be able to figure out what is going on...I know that we have quite a few beekeepers here and we buy our honey directly from them..this is truly terrible and we all should be aware of the situation!

[Son of Simon]

It's worse than just no honey. It would be a major financial disaster for farmers and beekeepers all over the world. Fruits, nuts, even certain wood products and other foods.

Not only that, but consider the natural consequences of CCD. If you lost wild colonies from the same virus/effect, now you're losing important plant and animal species that rely on that pollination. The effects carry over into the global enviornment, because we've been importing bees from Australia like Europe and China, which is also seeing the problem.

Currently scientists are exploring the possibility of hybridizing European and African honeybees, as the European species are the more efficient pollinators, but the Africanized are shown to be more resistant to the virus they believe may cause CCD (but are aggressive, so they're hoping the hybrid would retain good qualities from each).

Remember when we were scared that African honeybees were going to fly over here and kill us? LOL.

The difference here is that you can ACTUALLY track the massive disappearance of bees, so YES, it's actually happening.

-SoS

[TaylorHicksRocks]

This could also account for the increase price of food that we buy.....It is such a shame and I do hope the bee's will be able to pollunate all the fruits, vegatbles, nuts, and trees again we do need them.....I planted a flower garden just a couple months ago and would love to see my flowers grow and bloom! I do live in farm country and worry about the farmers as well....

[Feisty Kitty]

This could also account for the increase price of food that we buy.....It is such a shame and I do hope the bee's will be able to pollunate all the fruits, vegatbles, nuts, and trees again we do need them.....I planted a flower garden just a couple months ago and would love to see my flowers grow and bloom! I do live in farm country and worry about the farmers as well....

It is bigger than flowers! Think about how this could reduce the food supply? It is very scary!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

It is bigger than flowers! Think about how this could reduce the food supply? It is very scary!

I realize that! This is indeed a tragedy!

[Feisty Kitty]

When SoS told me about it, I started to get really nervous. I really hope that scientists can figure out a solution to this horrible problem!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

You and me both....

[Son of Simon]

Well...the problem is imminent, but not necessarily an "end of the world" scenario just yet.

Scientists figure that if the problem isn't fixed then we could lose all commercial honeybee pollination in 30 years. You figure the natural pollinators would start to dwindle immediately following that...so figure 30 years to stockpile and work on a solution. 30 years is a pretty substantial amount of time for scientists to figure it out, even if it did include a 5-6 year period of regrowth and implementation. From an attention standpoint, the problem would get more and more press as more bees disappear, but the important thing is they're researching the issue now.

Or...some idiot group like PETA could step in and release the infected, hybridized bees, causing a mass-extinction and accelerating CCD globally...

Hehe- some doomsday for you.

-SoS

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I hope that PETA does not do any damage they should be aware of what's going on....My cousin who was a vegan would not touch honey because it was produced by bee's and he certainly would do everything in his power to protect them...