Understanding Sandy

[Kat4Ever]

After browsing through thread after thread after thread where she's spread her venom.

I just thought it was be easier to group most of the insanity in one thread... where we all could witness what is and can only be known as 'SandyIsms'.

Hmmmmmm... this isn't going to be a complete list because it would make me sick.... and also it would take all day long to write it all out.... but here it is in a nutshell.

She's recently posted a link to a site called 'We HATE Gringos'.... nice.

She's said that ALL Liberals are traitors and terrorists.

She's called the homeless, alcoholic mental patients.

She's attacked gays.

She's declared as loud as anyone will listen that we are at war against ALL Muslims.

She's declared her love for Rush Limbaugh.... a self-ADMITTED liar and drug addict.

She's declared her love for Ann Coulter.... I'm not even sure what to say about her. She's just a shock journalist and certainly not someone that anybody should be getting news from.

She's continually - and without any real evidence - called Obama out as Muslim... and obviously has deep hatred for him. It's borderline slanderous.

She's posted that all the 50 million illegal aliens are 'criminals' that are destroying hospitals, schools, social programs and probably stole my parking spot at work last night also.

Hmmmmmm... she's incorrectly said that we have plenty of soldiers to fight any war we want all over this world.

She's called Kim and Sadie out as being sad and lonely.... and then SAID that she didn't. Ummm so she's a liar... and attacked 2 of my friends.

Gosh, I really could go on.. but I'm getting sick.

And honestly.. the thing that makes the the most mad about all of what she says.. and her attitude and venom and hatred for EVERYBODY that she doesn't agree with.....

is that some people on this forum agree with her.... and even worse is that some that I know don't....

still talk with her or try to be nice.

I could NEVER be nice to someone like this. I couldn't even pretend to be.

And I think honestly when you do, it just leads them to do more damage.

She should be called out for what she is. A racist, bigoted, very mean spirited person... that honestly has no clue of what she's talking about half the time and has been caught and called out as a liar.

To which she never has a reply.

[RushDog]

The good thing is, she's not going away. Just like you're not going away.

So, enjoy! There's more to come!:)

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Try as we might we can't always understand everybody........But the Lord has blessed us all with a mind and a will or our own and I know what's right and what's wrong.........When it comes dorn to it that's all that really matters......

[RushDog]

Try as we might we can't always understand everybody........But the Lord has blessed us all with a mind and a will or our own and I know what's right and what's wrong.........When it comes dorn to it that's all that really matters......

True that!:)

[Kat4Ever]

Gosh, I almost forgot one of my favorites...

the 'he's a cute, young Indian boy, so assuredly America won't put him through'....

no, not a direct quote but that's what was inferred.

I'm just confused. If we lived in 'Sandy's World'... who else would be there?

Republicans? But only if they really hated gays.

Liberals, Gays, Muslims, Mexicans (oh let's just be honest ALL other nationalities are gone).... all out.

So basically pure white-bred Republicans... obviously hardcore Christian (and not just pretending either)....

and that's about it.

Nice.

[RushDog]

And honestly.. the thing that makes the the most mad about all of what she says.. and her attitude and venom and hatred for EVERYBODY that she doesn't agree with......

That sounds alot like you! You must get mad at yourself alot.



I could NEVER be nice to someone like this. I couldn't even pretend to be.


I don't think she wants you to.

that some people on this forum agree with her.... and even worse is that some that I know don't....still talk with her or try to be nice.

And I think honestly when you do, it just leads them to do more damage.


Yes folks. Before you decide on who you should be friends with, make sure you run it through Kat first. He's the one who decides on who you talk to, are nice to, and are friends with. He's the "Friends Monitor".

She should be called out for what she is. A racist, bigoted, very mean spirited person... that honestly has no clue of what she's talking about half the time and has been caught and called out as a liar.


And what are you? The alternative? Thanks, but no thanks.

To which she never has a reply.

That's because she knows it's a waste of time. She's got bigger fish to fry.


Seriously though. It's not the politics or religion that bothers you about her. It's the fact that she's confident and has the audacity to speak her mind.
What you label as "arrogance" is really "confidence". And, that's really something you hate in a person. Because you're a control freak. You like to try to control what people say, and what they think, and who are they friends with. You can't stand a woman like Sandy, because she's strong enough to know that you're just a blowhard. You would prefer someone who is less confident, and has self esteem issues. That way you could control them.

You know, alot of Air Force officers I know, who got out early, go on and do great things. Then there's you, who would rather spend all their time on here badgering people for what they believe in. Boy, you've really done alot with your Air Force education and training.

[Kat4Ever]

Okay, I'll bite this once.

Seriously though. It's not the politics or religion that bothers you about her. It's the fact that she's confident and has the audacity to speak her mind.

Her politics or religion doesn't bother me in the least... that's her choice. I don't degrade people for believing what they believe in. You do that, not me.

And it has nothing to do with her 'confidence'... I like confidence. Except that usually she's just plain wrong... and that's been PROVEN over and over and over again. To which she never has a come-back or a reply. To me or anyone else that's questioned her.

So no, it's none of those reasons. It's her bigotry and her racist attitude and the fact that she thinks we're fighting Muslims.. and the fact that she's said that ALL liberals are traitors and terrorists.

And then she called out 2 of my friends (of course you've done that also, so I wouldn't expect you to have issue with that)..... but when called out about that what did she do? She lied and said she didn't.

So now she's a liar. Caught in the act. There's no 2 ways around it.

If YOU want to be associated with someone like that, be my guest. I choose not to be.

What you label as "arrogance" is really "confidence". And, that's really something you hate in a person. Because you're a control freak. You like to try to control what people say, and what they think, and who are they friends with. You can't stand a woman like Sandy, because she's strong enough to know that you're just a blowhard. You would prefer someone who is less confident, and has self esteem issues. That way you could control them.

Ummmmm, I never labeled her as arrogant? Where did I say that? So it's not arrogance or confidence as I already explained.

And I'm FAR from a control freak. I despise control freaks (or the act of control) that should be pretty evident for a smart person like yourself. I despise people that think they are better than others.. bigots, racists.. people that put other people down.

I would say the MAJORITY of my posts prove that, because I argue it all the time....

so that doesn't mesh, at all, with the idea of me being a control freak.

Wow, you're way off there.

I also don't like people that have no confidence... and can't stand on their own 2 feet.

Give me a STRONG, INDEPENDENT, CONFIDENT woman any day of the week... and for good measure twice on Sunday.

You don't have a clue. You have no idea my beliefs.. or my belief system.

But hey, 2 points for trying to come to her rescue.

[Kat4Ever]

You know, alot of Air Force officers I know, who got out early, go on and do great things. Then there's you, who would rather spend all their time on here badgering people for what they believe in. Boy, you've really done alot with your Air Force education and training.

Oops, forgot your personal attack.

I'll just say this.

Once again you know nothing about me or what I've done in my life.

You want to know my biggest accomplishment? Raising 2 beautiful, well educated, independent thinking girls... that are not racist, bigots.. and that care for people that are less well off than they are.

Want a quick story. A few years back (well several years) when they were I think like 7 and 8 years old respectively.

It was Christmas time and we had bought all their presents and they had got eachother presents and their grandparents presents.

I told them that they each had $100 dollars to spend however they wanted. On themselves, their sister, their friends... whatever they wanted.

They looked at eachother, conferred for a bit and then turned to me and both of them said that they wanted to give it to a child that had nothing at Christmas.

No prompting from me.

They just knew, already, what the right thing to do was.

So we went out and went to one of the 'Angel' trees at the local mall and took a couple of names off the tree and went and bought presents for those kids.

Ever since then, each Christmas, we adopt one family that has nothing for Christmas, or very little, and we buy them food, clothes, toys... whatever they need.

It's what my kids wanted to do, and still want to do to this day.

So don't lecture me. Don't try to tell me who I am or what I'm like, because you don't know anything.

And I'm very comfortable in saying that.

[RushDog]

Her politics or religion doesn't bother me in the least... that's her choice. I don't degrade people for believing what they believe in. You do that, not me.

Bull$hit. You've been dogging Christians ever since you've been on this site.
You have "Godar". Everytime somebody mentions God on here, you're on it like stink on $hit.


And then she called out 2 of my friends (of course you've done that also, so I wouldn't expect you to have issue with that)..... but when called out about that what did she do? She lied and said she didn't.


Well, if the shoe fits, buy two pairs. Maybe she's thinking of two other women. I can't think of any other two, because I know those are the only two who actually like you and defend you.

So now she's a liar. Caught in the act. There's no 2 ways around it.

You lied to when you said you weren't going to talk about religion anymore. Now, here you are.


Ummmmm, I never labeled her as arrogant? Where did I say that? So it's not arrogance or confidence as I already explained.

No. You called her that several times. In fact you use that word quite a bit.

And I'm FAR from a control freak. I despise control freaks (or the act of control) that should be pretty evident for a smart person like yourself. I despise people that think they are better than others.. bigots, racists.. people that put other people down.


If you are not a control freak, then why do you badger people whose opinions don't mesh with yours? Why do you tell people who they should be nice to, or friends with? Why do you tell Lizzy not to be friends with me and take up for me? Why did you tell Sadie she shouldn't like "Dumb and Dumber?"LOL

[RushDog]

So don't lecture me. Don't try to tell me who I am or what I'm like, because you don't know anything.

And I'm very comfortable in saying that.

Oh, I know much more about you, than you think. Trust me on that one.

[lizzyj]

I would have a lot more to say if I could read though your entire posts, but since i rarely get through the long ones, my reply will be somewhat brief.

WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE

It's your greatest joy in life to find something you can use on somebody. You don't know these people, the only thing you know is what they post, and if someone makes a post that you can take different ways, you are sure to take the negative way!

I haven't always agreed with Sandys posts, but after re-reading them, I see where I may have misunderstood her, and took things differently than she really meant some of them. How about giving people the benefit of the doubt???? She has made some really good posts that were very loving, and if she made those then maybe we misread some of the others.

And as far as Rushdog, YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS VERY WONDERFUL, LOVING MAN!! So, how about leaving him alone too.

I doubt these two members care about what you think, but I will tell you this, you have actually made me cry over some of the things you have said to me. I have been in my house before, minding my own business, log on to this site, read what you wrote about me and cried. People actually have feelings. How about finding something nice to say about someone from time to time. It might make you feel better to do it. This is one reason why I took up for THR a while back, I can't stand the thought of someone feeling bad after reading a negative post from you.

Why can't you ever post anything fun?

Or is fun for you trying to hurt others?

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Bull$hit. You've been dogging Christians ever since you've been on this site.
You have "Godar". Everytime somebody mentions God on here, you're on it like stink on $hit.



Well, if the shoe fits, buy two pairs. Maybe she's thinking of two other women. I can't think of any other two, because I know those are the only two who actually like you and defend you.

You lied to when you said you weren't going to talk about religion anymore. Now, here you are.


No. You called her that several times. In fact you use that word quite a bit.


If you are not a control freak, then why do you badger people whose opinions don't mesh with yours? Why do you tell people who they should be nice to, or friends with? Why do you tell Lizzy not to be friends with me and take up for me? Why did you tell Sadie she shouldn't like "Dumb and Dumber?"LOL


I have said this in the past if anyone tried to get to know K4E he does not dog you for being a Christian......He does respect you or at least he does me.....I have talked to him about my religion and I don't feel as if he is condescending......Try give it a shot......I know we had our problems in the past but we have worked through them.......

[Kat4Ever]

Really Lizzy? Like you stood up for Sadie? When YOUR friend attacked her.

Don't pretend like I don't know you or know far more about you then you wish I did.

But since you brought it up... please tell me how it's misunderstood when she posts a link to a site called 'we hate gringos?'

Tell me how it's misunderstood when she attacks gays?

Tell me how it's misunderstood when you say that ALL liberals are traitors and terrorists... even you knocked her on that one.

Tell me how it's misunderstood when she says that my only friends on the site are 2 lonely women (and again even you called her out on that one)..... and then she says she wasn't talking about Sadie or THR.....

so she was caught in a lie but doesn't even have the guts to apologize.

Tell me how ANYBODY with half a brain could misinterpret any of that, Lizzy?

And then tell me what has been misinterpreted with her? What has she said that you've gone back and re-read and now want to agree with?

I'll wait.

[lizzyj]

I read the post about hate the sin, not the sinner. Thats what made me go back and re-read.

And I said, some of the post. I never said I agree with everything Sandy or anyone else posts.

All I know is this, I have written things and said things before that people went off on me for, later to find out that I didn't explain myself well. I think that everybody has good and bad in them, we should focus on the good, not the bad.

I also know first hand how hurtful it is to have someone "dog you out" and then when you are left sad and crying, you realize....knowone even took up for me.

I have to live with myself. I go to bed happy when I know that I've been the best person I can be.

[RushDog]

Really Lizzy? Like you stood up for Sadie? When YOUR friend attacked her


Don't pretend like I don't know you or know far more about you then you wish I did.

But since you brought it up... please tell me how it's misunderstood when she posts a link to a site called 'we hate gringos?'

Tell me how it's misunderstood when she attacks gays?

Tell me how it's misunderstood when you say that ALL liberals are traitors and terrorists... even you knocked her on that one.

Tell me how it's misunderstood when she says that my only friends on the site are 2 lonely women (and again even you called her out on that one)..... and then she says she wasn't talking about Sadie or THR.....

so she was caught in a lie but doesn't even have the guts to apologize.

Tell me how ANYBODY with half a brain could misinterpret any of that, Lizzy?

And then tell me what has been misinterpreted with her? What has she said that you've gone back and re-read and now want to agree with?

I'll wait.


All these you've brought up, pale in comparison to the vile things you have posted. Anyway, how do you know she was talking about Sadie, or even Kim? It could be somebody else. There is someone another female on here who shares your anti-Christian views. We won't mention any names. Either way, calling somebody lonely doesn't compare to the foul things you've said about people on here.

[Kat4Ever]

Well you're different than I am obviously.

I can't excuse one person's persistent horrible attitude because they said one thing I might agree with.

So cool.. she said 'hate the sinner, not the sin'.....

and that makes ALL the other stuff she's said and ethnic groups she's attacked and Muslims she's slandered all better, right?

Wrong.

People are judged on a body of work.. and to me, my opinion, her body of work has been horrifying.

Scary.

I've posted a LOT of the things she's said, hurtful and damaging things just to make a point.

If you want to defend her because she's Christian, then that's your right.

But being Christian doesn't make you a good person. And good people don't say half the stuff she has.

There is no misunderstanding and there is no misinterpreting what she's posted. Not in my opinion.

You're entitled obviously to think what you want. But remember what I said about guilt by association. You're judged not only by your actions but also by those you choose to be friends with or associate yourself with.

If your friends are walking around attacking gays and liberals and Muslims and Mexicans and pretty much everybody else, you don't have much ground to stand on when you say you're not like that.

You just don't.

[lizzyj]

I defend people, being a Christian has nothing to do with it.

And I have to do what I think is right, and frankly, I know that God loves the love in me.

[Kat4Ever]

There is someone another female on here who shares your anti-Christian views.

Funny, I don't know anybody on her that has 'anti-Christian' views. I know several people that have feelings about some people that say or pretend to be Christian or better than others, but disprove that based on their actions on the site.

But as far as being anti-Christian.. not me.. or anyone else. My disdain is for what I don't agree with in Christianity.. and not Christianity as a whole.

I think the teachings are great.. I think some of the philosophies are flawed.

But hey, thanks for asking.

My other disdain is for people like you that quote scripture and say things like 'hate the sinner, not the sin' while at the same time you're bashing everybody that doesn't agree with you fundamentally.. or gays.. or Muslims.. or Mexicans or whatever.

That's hypocritcal.

It's the same as acting as though you're 'saved' so you think that you have license to sin because it will all be forgiven.

Yes, everybody sins... but most people don't act all saintly about it like you... with your 'don't hate the player, hate the game' philosophy.

Being saved is not a license to sin.. it is a license to forgive transgressions if you believe in all of that obviously.

It is not a license to say 'it's okay if I go out and get drunk tonight and sleep with another women or rob somebody or whatever.. because in the morning I'll be forgiven'.

When you KNOW you are sinning.. but continue to do so anyway.. do you really think that God will just look the other way and say something like 'gosh silly human?'

That's my problem.

Yours is that you CAN NOT STAND anyone that doesn't agree with you or your beliefs.. or that calls you out for what you are.

I don't have a problem with you as a person. I don't like you. I don't like what you stand for. I don't like how you use women.

But I don't 'judge' you on that. And I can't change you.

I just wouldn't have anything to do with you in real life.

You, on the other hand, want to bash me for my beliefs... even when you then turn around and say you don't.

'Cause you're a real solid Christian.

[lizzyj]

Also, I think that you sometimes post things to irritate people, I also think that people post things to irritate you. Therefor, we never really know what someone is really thinking.

[RushDog]

Well you're different than I am obviously.

Everybody is. You're a different kind of dude, all the way around.

I can't excuse one person's persistent horrible attitude because they said one thing I might agree with.

But, your attitude is good. Very uplifting and encouraging.


People are judged on a body of work.. and to me, my opinion, her body of work has been horrifying.

Scary.


Yeah, and yours has been a real love story.


I've posted a LOT of the things she's said, hurtful and damaging things just to make a point.

Yeah, and your point is to push your own anti-Christian blasphemic liberal Democrat entitlement mentality agenda.

[sandy]

How stupid to start a thread and name it this. Of course I offend liberals. Duh... I am like a cuter/nicer version of Ann Coulter, so I may offend occasionally.:D And I am VERY passionate about religion and politics.

2 of America's biggest threats are radical muslims and criminal aliens. There is no denying this. Even the most PC people know it. The "We Hate Gringos" website is where the term "coyote" can be found. It is VERY informative.

I never attacked gays. I said I believed homosexual behavior is wrong because the Bible says so. People twisting my words and misinterpreting my posts need to reread what I said.

Today liberals voted to prevent our brave soldiers from finishing/winning this phase of the war. I call that treasonous and traitor. They want our enemy to win. How pathetic.

Not many know who I was referring to in my "Kat's lonely women" comment. Only he and they do.

I will NEVER sugar-coat my posts. They are direct, blunt, to the point, and reflect exactly what I mean. I apologize to no one for them. (Unless I inadvertantly offended someone, then I am the first to apologize.)

I will not personally attack someone no matter how rude they are. I just ignore them.

I really enjoy most of the people here. There is a great, diverse group of vocal, Christian, decent, kind, funny people. God Bless You.:)

[sandy]

Yeah, and your point is to push your own anti-Christian blasphemic liberal Democrat entitlement mentality agenda.


Don't you just love it when Christian-bashers try to explain the Bible? Neither does God...

[RushDog]

Funny, I don't know anybody on her that has 'anti-Christian' views. I know several people that have feelings about some people that say or pretend to be Christian or better than others, but disprove that based on their actions on the site.

Let's just say her name starts with a "B", and ends with an "S, and we'll leave it at that.

But as far as being anti-Christian.. not me.. or anyone else. My disdain is for what I don't agree with in Christianity.. and not Christianity as a whole.

I think the teachings are great.. I think some of the philosophies are flawed.

But hey, thanks for asking.


Everybody is flawed, Rich. We're all sinners. Even you. Nobody's perfect. You've proven that.

My other disdain is for people like you that quote scripture and say things like 'hate the sinner, not the sin' while at the same time you're bashing everybody that doesn't agree with you fundamentally.. or gays.. or Muslims.. or Mexicans or whatever.

I've never bashed Mexicans. I love Mexicans, and Hispanics in general. Besides the warm weather, why else would I choose to live in San Angelo, Texas? In fact, I've never bashed anybody's race. Like I said before, race and religion are two different things. Religion is a decision, race isn't.


That's hypocritcal.


You calling anybody a hypocrit, is like Rosie O' Donnell calling somebody fat.

It's the same as acting as though you're 'saved' so you think that you have license to sin because it will all be forgiven.
Being saved is not a license to sin.. it is a license to forgive transgressions if you believe in all of that obviously.
It is not a license to say 'it's okay if I go out and get drunk tonight and sleep with another women or rob somebody or whatever.. because in the morning I'll be forgiven'.
When you KNOW you are sinning.. but continue to do so anyway.. do you really think that God will just look the other way and say something like 'gosh silly human?'



Sins will be forgiven, and you will go to Heaven, if you are saved. However there are consequences for all your sins, that you will have to deal with before you get to Heaven. God chastises me for my sins daily. Have you ever heard the expression, "Bad things happen to good people"? There's alot of truth in that. I've explained that to you before, but it didn't take.


Yours is that you CAN NOT STAND anyone that doesn't agree with you or your beliefs.. or that calls you out for what you are.


No, it's not that. I can't stand you because basically, you're not a nice person. You're mean and miserable. I work with very un-Godly people, who I get along with very well. I don't agree with their mentality, but we still find common ground. We can still have a laugh and a joke.


I don't have a problem with you as a person. I don't like you. I don't like what you stand for. I don't like how you use women. But I don't 'judge' you on that. And I can't change you


How the heck do I use women? The only person I have sex with, is my wife. You keep insinuating that me and Lizzy are having an affair. I haven't even seen her naked. I can't help it that chicks dig me.


I just wouldn't have anything to do with you in real life.

Well, judging by what you post and how you behave on here, I wouldn't want anything to do with you either. On the other hand, maybe there's a different side of you that only Kim and Sadie sees. Who knows?


You, on the other hand, want to bash me for my beliefs... even when you then turn around and say you don't. 'Cause you're a real solid Christian.


No, I bash you for the way you treat people. Namely me. You're not nice. I don't care what you believe in. But, if you're not nice, then I can't deal with you.

I mean, Frank gets on my last nerve. However, most of the time he's pretty nice. Aztec too. He gets under my skin with his Cowboys, and his musical tastes, but overall, he's a pretty cool guy. It's all about how you treat people.

Now, Kim and Sadie have both told me great things about you. About how you're such a great guy. But, nobody else sees that. Why do you hide that side of you from everybody else?

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Don't you just love it when Christian-bashers try to explain the Bible? Neither does God...

I think that God would love for everyone to read his book and explain the good book........but that's just me......I myself have a difficult time understanding the Bible when I read the Good Book as a whole however but that doesn't make me less of a Christian in fact I ask God to help me understand all the time I want to understand.......I think if Rich understands and his viewpoint makes sense why shouldn't we hear his view point. It's not like he was raised outside of the Church.......Rich has studied the Bible......I would like for him and Scott to join my Bible Study Class I think that would be an Awesome Class!;)

[sandy]

Rush- I tried to give you some rep but the system won't let me. That was a post full of truth.

And LOL to your comment about "I can't help it that chicks dig me." We like you because you're the total package: nice, funny, smart, considerate and Christian.:D

[Kat4Ever]

Now, Kim and Sadie have both told me great things about you. About how you're such a great guy. But, nobody else sees that. Why do you hide that side of you from everybody else?

I don't hide any side of me from anybody. Never have. Life's too short.

In fact I'm very forward with my beliefs... to the point of ticking people off that disagree with me because they can't handle other people's opinions.

As for what Kim has told you, I won't comment, don't know what she's said.

As for what Sadie has told you... that would be nothing, because she doesn't talk to you... whether you want to keep insinuating she does or not.

Sort of like when you posted that she had told you she loved you. She said that never happened also... even in jest.

But you're good at making things up and spinning them as you want.

By the way, isn't there something in the bible about being overly conceited also?

It's good to know that all women love you... and that you just can't help it.

I've also never said that you and Lizzy have had an affair.. not once. What you do on the site or in person is your business. In fact I'm relatively sure you haven't.. and I'd probably know unless she's lying to someone else.

But if you want to get specific I'm sure that it's probably not proper in the eyes of God to be sitting on a site proclaiming yourself holier than thou.. while as a married couple professing your 'love' to eachother - despite it being somewhat jokingly or not.

And the fact that I'm sure or at least in her case very positive (let's not lie, Lizzy we both know the truth of it) that you're hiding it from your perspective spouses as well. People only hide things that they don't want others to know about.

If it was innocent and just fun... why wouldn't you tell?

Because neither of your spouses.. and most assuredly hers wouldn't understand at all.

So we know that her husband isn't over her shoulders reading everything she types.. despite what she's said also.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....

[TaylorHicksRocks]

If I remember correctly I said that if anyone had PM'd K4E sooner they would have come to realize what a nice person he is.......a lot of frustration would have been avoided!:D All of this is true if people would just take the time to get to know K4E you will find a very intelligent kind man....I am happy to call him friend....This does not mean that Rush, Lizzy, Frank, and your all know who your are, are not my friends as well.......Take the time you just may be surprised...;)

[RushDog]

As for what Sadie has told you... that would be nothing, because she doesn't talk to you... whether you want to keep insinuating she does or not.

Sort of like when you posted that she had told you she loved you. She said that never happened also... even in jest.

But you're good at making things up and spinning them as you want.


This is where you're wrong, Rich. Sadie and I have made amends, and are good friends. She might not have told you that. But, let me just say this, I care about her more than you'll ever know. I have apologized to her, and like other good Christians, she has forgiven me. You're blessed to have somebody like her as a friend. She's pretty special.



But if you want to get specific I'm sure that it's probably not proper in the eyes of God to be sitting on a site proclaiming yourself holier than thou.. while as a married couple professing your 'love' to eachother - despite it being somewhat jokingly or not.


The love I have for Lizzy, is no different than the other women on this site, which is strictly platonic, and a brotherly love.

And the fact that I'm sure or at least in her case very positive (let's not lie, Lizzy we both know the truth of it) that you're hiding it from your perspective spouses as well. People only hide things that they don't want others to know about. Because neither of your spouses.. and most assuredly hers wouldn't understand at all.


I'm not hiding anything from my wife. My wife reads alot of my posts. She knows Lizzy is a good friend, and has no problem with it. She's also been on my myspace site where I have several women on my friends list. She knows I'm not going to cheat on her. It's called trust.


So we know that her husband isn't over her shoulders reading everything she types.. despite what she's said also......

But, how do you know? Lizzy is a very devoted wife and mother, who takes care of her family. So, who are you to speculate?

[RushDog]

.......Rich has studied the Bible......I would like for him and Scott to join my Bible Study Class I think that would be an Awesome Class!;)

Actually, I do go to a Bible study class. I've been doing it for years. I couldn't live without it.

[RushDog]

And LOL to your comment about "I can't help it that chicks dig me." We like you because you're the total package: nice, funny, smart, considerate and Christian.:D

My daddy taught me well. LOL

[Kat4Ever]

This is where you're wrong, Rich.

No, I'm not and you know it. You're either delusional or just flat out lying and trying to start something. But I know you're lying, you know you're lying, Sadie knows you're lying and now Lizzy will as well.

Sadie and I have made amends, and are good friends.

Wrong again.

But, let me just say this, I care about her more than you'll ever know.

How nice of you to say. Not only don't I care.. neither does she.

I have apologized to her, and like other good Christians, she has forgiven me.

You apologized to her through Lizzy... and she never forgave you... and now she's pretty upset... again. You're just too cool.

You're blessed to have somebody like her as a friend. She's pretty special.

Hey, I agree.

[RushDog]

This is where you're wrong, Rich.

No, I'm not and you know it. You're either delusional or just flat out lying and trying to start something. But I know you're lying, you know you're lying, Sadie knows you're lying and now Lizzy will as well.

Sadie and I have made amends, and are good friends.

Wrong again.

But, let me just say this, I care about her more than you'll ever know.

How nice of you to say. Not only don't I care.. neither does she.

I have apologized to her, and like other good Christians, she has forgiven me.

You apologized to her through Lizzy... and she never forgave you... and now she's pretty upset... again. You're just too cool.

You're blessed to have somebody like her as a friend. She's pretty special.

Hey, I agree.

Whatever, dude. Believe what you want to believe.