Barack Obama

[IdolMe]

So whatcha think of this guy??? (Barack Obama) I'm reading his book and the jury is still out.

[frank]

So whatcha think of this guy??? (Barack Obama) I'm reading his book and the jury is still out.

I believe that he will be the next President of the United States. I'm already signed up with his organization. When you're done with the book lend it to me via the mail.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I had never heard of him.........so of course I went and looked him up and read about this IL Senator. Very Interesting! If anyone else is clueless here is a link..........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Presidential_ambitions

[Kat4Ever]

He's too young and inexperienced in my opinion.

I like what he says.. and I like what he stands for...

but geez... how about actually accomplishing a few things before you think you can run the free world.

Of course if he gets the nomination against pretty much anybody the Republicans throw up against him.. he's got my vote.

I'd rather him become the Vice President first if anything... and then President 8 years later.

He'd be good to have on the ticket.

[IdolMe]

I believe that he will be the next President of the United States. I'm already signed up with his organization. When you're done with the book lend it to me via the mail.

PM me your address.

I had never heard of him.........so of course I went and looked him up and read about this IL Senator. Very Interesting! If anyone else is clueless here is a link..........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Presidential_ambitions

Yeah... I'm not a democrat but I would like to get a better understanding of the guy.

[aztecgoods]

He talks a good game, but if you are not into big government, my suspicions are that under neath the good package and good persona he is a big government type. Not that practically everyone else isnt' in washington so it really doesn't matter. Bush was supposed to be a conservative but has spent like a drunken New England Democrat.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

He talks a good game, but if you are not into big government, my suspicions are that under neath the good package and good persona he is a big government type. Not that practically everyone else isnt' in washington so it really doesn't matter. Bush was supposed to be a conservative but has spent like a drunken New England Democrat.

Which is too funny he had more money raised for running the first time than any other President in history and this was during the primary's!!!!!!!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Barack Obama is going to pursue a run for the White House! It's official!! I forgot what it's called but he has done the documentation to raise money for his campaign.....

[aztecgoods]

Hillary's attack machine is apparently trying to label him as a coke head,:eek: you can expect more of that when you go up against Hillary, before its over she'll probably have him framed for the 911 attacks.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Hillary's attack machine is apparently trying to label him as a coke head,:eek: you can expect more of that when you go up against Hillary, before its over she'll probably have him framed for the 911 attacks.

Yeah as if anyone would believe that........well who knows someone may! That's scary!:rolleyes:

[sandy]

Americans will never elect an effiminate muslim with the muslim name
Barack Hussein Obama. Never.

[RushDog]

Americans will never elect an effiminate muslim with the muslim name
Barack Hussein Obama. Never.

Well, at least he's a Bears fan, so he has something going for him.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Americans will never elect an effiminate muslim with the muslim name
Barack Hussein Obama. Never.

I don't know about that...America has surprised me before in the past!!!!!!!!

[sandy]

The problem is one can never leave Islam. And what it stands for should scare the &*@% out of Americans.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://www.wndbookservice.com/products/bookpage.asp?prod_cd=c6805

[frank]

Americans will never elect an effiminate muslim with the muslim name
Barack Hussein Obama. Never.
Sandra;

First of all, Obama is a devout Christian. Secondly, could you please explain to us what your criteria for judging a man's masculinity level is?

Your statement that America will never elect a Muslim is not quite correct.

The Voters of the State of Minnesota last November, elected Keith Ellison to the United States House of Representatives. Rep. Ellison IS a practicing Muslim. As a matter of fact when he was sworn in , the ceremony was done on a copy of he Koran, not the Bible.

So change in attitude is happening. Obama can be President.

[RushDog]

I don't know much about the man, other than the fact he's a Bears fan. But, from what little I've seen of him, he didn't come across as being feminine to me. I mean, he didn't talk with a lisp, or run around singing showtunes, or anything like that.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Sandra;

First of all, Obama is a devout Christian. Secondly, could you please explain to us what your criteria for judging a man's masculinity level is?

Your statement that America will never elect a Muslim is not quite correct.

The Voters of the State of Minnesota last November, elected Keith Ellison to the United States House of Representatives. Rep. Ellison IS a practicing Muslim. As a matter of fact when he was sworn in , the ceremony was done on a copy of he Koran, not the Bible.

So change in attitude is happening. Obama can be President.


I like him!! I like him more than Hillary!!!!

[sandy]

With all due respect and not wanting to start a war, Barack Hussein Obama is a muslim. Both his natural and stepfathers were muslim. He was educated in a muslim school in Jakarta. Muslims (especially boys) cannot leave Islam. Not ever.

He is NOT a Christian. He attends a denominational/liberal church occasionally in an attempt to appear Christian. He is trying to align himself with huge Christian pastors to further the facade.

Obama lied about this before his 2004 DNC speech. He said his father was a Christian. He KNOWS this will do him in. And his advisors are doing everything they can to kill this story. I said it 8 years ago. I stand by my post. I have researched this man enough to know.

Will Americans be fooled by his story? I certainly hope not. We cannot EVER have a muslim running this country. It would be the end.

Americans will NEVER elect a muslim President. Not ever.

[lizzyj]

Sandy,

My personal beliefs aside, I find it hard to believe Americans would vote him in to office.

So I must agree with you.

[frank]

With all due respect and not wanting to start a war, Barack Hussein Obama is a muslim. Both his natural and stepfathers were muslim. He was educated in a muslim school in Jakarta. Muslims (especially boys) cannot leave Islam. Not ever.

He is NOT a Christian. He attends a denominational/liberal church occasionally in an attempt to appear Christian. He is trying to align himself with huge Christian pastors to further the facade.

Obama lied about this before his 2004 DNC speech. He said his father was a Christian. He KNOWS this will do him in. And his advisors are doing everything they can to kill this story. I said it 8 years ago. I stand by my post. I have researched this man enough to know.

Will Americans be fooled by his story? I certainly hope not. We cannot EVER have a muslim running this country. It would be the end.

Americans will NEVER elect a muslim President. Not ever.You are entitled to your opinions. But the Fact of the matter is even if he does not receive the democratic nomination for President he will most surely be the vice presidential choice of Hillary Clinton. Oh and the research that you speak of can be refuted with contrary research information that backs what I say. Who's info is more "Correct"?

You also never explained your Femininity comments directed at Obama, and what exactly it was that you used to come to that conclusion. And the Minnesota Rep, is he proof that Minnesota is now a Muslim satellite?

[RushDog]

You also never explained your Femininity comments directed at Obama, and what exactly it was that you used to come to that conclusion.

I don't know, Frank. After taking a second look, I can definately see some drag queen potential. He's very thin, and has a very feminine looking face. If he arched his eyebrows, and used the right mascara, and right wig, I can see him up on stage, at the La Cage, singing some Donna Summer!

Too Wong Foo, baby!


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[sandy]

I'm not so sure Hillary will use him as her VP. She may have concerns that people would want her demise to have him as POTUS. I met him. He is VERY effiminate. Some people think his strategy is brilliant--fool everyone into thinking you are a black Christian who only has America's interests at heart. Too bad that theory was busted.:mad: Plus he's an empty suit with NO accomplishments other than being one of the most liberal senators out there.

He and Islam are 2 of the things I have studied for 8-10 years and I know plenty about both.
MN has a huge muslim population. So does Detroit/Dearborn. They go for the bad areas first where no one will mind their mosques and evil activity. "Keith Ellison" ran in MN and some people didn't even KNOW he was a muslim. Clever how he hid his real name: Hakim Muhammad! :(

If Obama is not a muslim, then he is an apostate, since he was born a muslim. Children of a muslim father are automatically muslim. And they can NEVER leave Islam.:eek: Obama was known as a muslim while in school in Indonesia.

Obama has refused to speak honestly about his muslim background. It's our RIGHT to ask about this stuff since we're at war with muslims. Muslims are far less tolerant of apostates from Islam than they are of other non-believers. Radicals recruit from the mainstream. Imagine their success being boosted by the election of a muslim apostate to the nation's highest office.

Is a man who was raised by a muslim father/stepfather, educated at a muslim school in an Islamic society, prepared to act fully in the American people's interest against the threat of Islam, or will he push muslim immigration and the CAIR agenda? Probably both. There is no way of knowing where Obama stands until he comes clean. And so far he hasn't. He lied about his father being a CHristian. He's hiding his muslim connections. Thank God we found out now and not after he turned the USA into another muslim,evil,violent, third world country.:mad:

[frank]

I'm not so sure Hillary will use him as her VP. She may have concerns that people would want her demise to have him as POTUS. I met him. He is VERY effiminate. Some people think his strategy is brilliant--fool everyone into thinking you are a black Christian who only has America's interests at heart. Too bad that theory was busted.:mad: Plus he's an empty suit with NO accomplishments other than being one of the most liberal senators out there.

He and Islam are 2 of the things I have studied for 8-10 years and I know plenty about both.
MN has a huge muslim population. So does Detroit/Dearborn. They go for the bad areas first where no one will mind their mosques and evil activity. "Keith Ellison" ran in MN and some people didn't even KNOW he was a muslim. Clever how he hid his real name: Hakim Muhammad! :(

If Obama is not a muslim, then he is an apostate, since he was born a muslim. Children of a muslim father are automatically muslim. And they can NEVER leave Islam.:eek: Obama was known as a muslim while in school in Indonesia.

Obama has refused to speak honestly about his muslim background. It's our RIGHT to ask about this stuff since we're at war with muslims. Muslims are far less tolerant of apostates from Islam than they are of other non-believers. Radicals recruit from the mainstream. Imagine their success being boosted by the election of a muslim apostate to the nation's highest office.

Is a man who was raised by a muslim father/stepfather, educated at a muslim school in an Islamic society, prepared to act fully in the American people's interest against the threat of Islam, or will he push muslim immigration and the CAIR agenda? Probably both. There is no way of knowing where Obama stands until he comes clean. And so far he hasn't. He lied about his father being a CHristian. He's hiding his muslim connections. Thank God we found out now and not after he turned the USA into another muslim,evil,violent, third world country.:mad:Well then, I guess that we will agree to disagree. Nothing that I can say will change your mind as well as nothing you say will change mine. I will continue to support Obama, and Clinton in their efforts to get back the white house.

[sandy]

Why would you want ANY Clinton back in the White House? They damaged/ stole items when they left. We are fighting evil muslims on THEIR turf, not here. Clinton ignored terrorism cells here. He was too busy committing adultry. That's how 911 happened. The muslims were unchecked and left alone because he didn't want to *offend* them. He cut the defense/national security budget. The Clintons list of crimes from suspected murder to fraud is a mile long.:mad:

He had the moral character of an alley cat in heat. He brought shame and mockery to the office of the POTUS. She is a cold-hearted, power-hungry fraud.

Our economy is in BETTER shape now. The stock market is near all-time highs. We have 4.4% unemployment (full employment) despite 50 million illegal aliens being here. We have a decent,honorable,honest, true Christian man of God in the White House now.

Clinton is charasmatic and likeable. Hillary has the charm of a snake.

The democrats already won the house/senate by promising to get us out of Iraq. Let's see how they do that before we support them to take over the White House.

[RushDog]

The transition has already started....


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Hillbillery

[Kat4Ever]

There is no help for people like you, Sandy.

None.

And honestly every sensible person on this site should stop talking to you.. communicating with you.. responding to your posts or even acknowledging that they know you.

You are the fear factor that Bush has created in this country.

Muslims are not evil nor dangerous. Their religion doesn't talk about doing evil things.. nor about killing people.

Radical Muslims have broken off from true Islam and are creating their own 'version' of that religion... much like there are many sects to Christianity.

And NO I'm not starting a religious discussion or fighting about it... I'm just clarifying a point.

To me there is nothing more dangerous and evil than a person such as yourself that honestly believes (and I believe that you do) that our country is under attack and that someone like George Bush is our holy savior.

That and to walk around spreading garbage about Obama being Muslim (and who cares if he really is as long as he's a good person)... and honestly anything else that comes from your brainwashed mind.

[Kat4Ever]

It's our RIGHT to ask about this stuff since we're at war with muslims.

We are NOT at war with Muslims you insignificant little........

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Why would you want ANY Clinton back in the White House? They damaged/ stole items when they left. We are fighting evil muslims on THEIR turf, not here. Clinton ignored terrorism cells here. He was too busy committing adultry. That's how 911 happened. The muslims were unchecked and left alone because he didn't want to *offend* them. He cut the defense/national security budget. The Clintons list of crimes from suspected murder to fraud is a mile long.:mad:

He had the moral character of an alley cat in heat. He brought shame and mockery to the office of the POTUS. She is a cold-hearted, power-hungry fraud.

Our economy is in BETTER shape now. The stock market is near all-time highs. We have 4.4% unemployment (full employment) despite 50 million illegal aliens being here. We have a decent,honorable,honest, true Christian man of God in the White House now.

Clinton is charasmatic and likeable. Hillary has the charm of a snake.

The democrats already won the house/senate by promising to get us out of Iraq. Let's see how they do that before we support them to take over the White House.

This is all I have to say i don't trust GEORGE W. Never did never will that man is a lying snake......but what would politics be if they didn't lie they all do.....Bush just wants to get his hands on more OIL he is a greedy sob....I never voted for him!! I can complain about him! I don't vote party lines I always vote for the Man!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

There is no help for people like you, Sandy.

None.

And honestly every sensible person on this site should stop talking to you.. communicating with you.. responding to your posts or even acknowledging that they know you.

You are the fear factor that Bush has created in this country.

Muslims are not evil nor dangerous. Their religion doesn't talk about doing evil things.. nor about killing people.

Radical Muslims have broken off from true Islam and are creating their own 'version' of that religion... much like there are many sects to Christianity.

And NO I'm not starting a religious discussion or fighting about it... I'm just clarifying a point.

To me there is nothing more dangerous and evil than a person such as yourself that honestly believes (and I believe that you do) that our country is under attack and that someone like George Bush is our holy savior.

That and to walk around spreading garbage about Obama being Muslim (and who cares if he really is as long as he's a good person)... and honestly anything else that comes from your brainwashed mind.


I have to agree my neighbors in NV were Muslim by choice.......they had been Christian and changed their religion.....they are peaceful people and we were never at war with them......you could not tell by looking at them that they were Muslim!!!!!

[RushDog]

I'm looking at the future, and I see another thread getting locked.

http://www.oldmilltoronto.com/Pics/Fortune%20teller.gif

"...Another thread bites the dust!"

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I'm looking at the future, and I see another thread getting locked.

http://www.oldmilltoronto.com/Pics/Fortune%20teller.gif


Lol I agree!!!

[RushDog]

Sandy, your signature says it all.


http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/0b/200px-Kojak.jpg
You're great baby, don't change!

[Kat4Ever]

Sandy, your signature says it all.

Yeah the 'incorrect' part.

[RushDog]

BTW Sandy, We're having our Right Wing Conservative Christian Music Fans Association meeting later on this evening to discuss plans for future posts and threads. I hope you can make it!:awink:

[lizzyj]

Slight change in conversation, but

I don't believe in all that "Politically Correct" crap. Don't say things this way, don't say that. Don't use this word or that word. It is crazy.

Example, Schools in my area can't use the word "wrong" anymore...it's not politically correct. Not positive what word they are using...something like...not normal. That might be it, I'll check.

Well, H@ll, I rather be wrong than not normal, what about you all?

Red ink to grade papers is out, It bothers the students more when they get a test back with lots of red ink on it.

CRAZY!!!!!!!!!

I think someone in government made up a job and gave it to their nephew. Now he goes around picking what words we can use.

[RushDog]

I think someone in government made up a job and gave it to their nephew. Now he goes around picking what words we can use.

I wish I had that job. I would definately incorporate in public schools the term, "Fo' shizzle my nizzle" to take tha place of "I agree".

[frank]

Why would you want ANY Clinton back in the White House? They damaged/ stole items when they left. We are fighting evil muslims on THEIR turf, not here. Clinton ignored terrorism cells here. He was too busy committing adultry. That's how 911 happened. The muslims were unchecked and left alone because he didn't want to *offend* them. He cut the defense/national security budget. The Clintons list of crimes from suspected murder to fraud is a mile long.:mad:

He had the moral character of an alley cat in heat. He brought shame and mockery to the office of the POTUS. She is a cold-hearted, power-hungry fraud.

Our economy is in BETTER shape now. The stock market is near all-time highs. We have 4.4% unemployment (full employment) despite 50 million illegal aliens being here. We have a decent,honorable,honest, true Christian man of God in the White House now.

Clinton is charasmatic and likeable. Hillary has the charm of a snake.

The democrats already won the house/senate by promising to get us out of Iraq. Let's see how they do that before we support them to take over the White House.Wow.....You're scaring me now. I take it all back. Our country has never been in better shape. OBTW Do you know who this man is by any chance?

[lizzyj]

xxxxxxxSandyxxxxxxxxIxxxxxxxxxlikexxxxxxxGeorgexxx xxxxxxBushxxxxxxto.

xxxxxxxxxandxxxxxxIxxxxxxdontxxxxxxxlikexxxxxxxxxx xClintonxxxxxxxxxxx

teetee

[sandy]

LOL! OMG! I don't know where to start. I'm not going to talk with Kat anymore. Useless waste of time. There are too many nice people here--most have PM'd me in support of various posts.

LOL frank and Rush. And yeah, Rush, I'll see ya tonite at the meeting.:D

[sandy]

p.s. LOL dog. Great pic of Billery!:eek:
And lol lizzy. fo schlizzy.

[RushDog]

LOL frank and Rush. And yeah, Rush, I'll see ya tonite at the meeting.:D

Great! We have alot to discuss, fo' shizzle!

[RushDog]

And honestly every sensible person on this site should stop talking to you.. communicating with you.. responding to your posts or even acknowledging that they know you.



There are too many nice people here--most have PM'd me in support of various posts.



Yes, we're the "non-sensible" people who still talk to you, respond to your posts, and acknowledge that they know you. So much for sensibility. Did I tell you that you were on my buddy list?:cool_shad

[Kat4Ever]

Well gosh, I'm just so overly shocked that Rush likes you..........

[lizzyj]

I'm glad I'm not fighting tonight!!!

All is good in the world of lizzyj

good night all!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I'm glad I'm not fighting tonight!!!

All is good in the world of lizzyj

good night all!


Good Night Sissy have a good day tomorrow!!:)

[RushDog]

Well gosh, I'm just so overly shocked that Rush likes you..........

Well let's see, she's a Republican, a Christian, a Bears fan, has a great sense of humor, and stands up for her beliefs. Yeah, real shocker there. Sounds alot like another young lady that I'm very fond of on this website.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Well let's see, she's a Republican, a Christian, a Bears fan, has a great sense of humor, and stands up for her beliefs. Yeah, real shocker there. Sounds alot like another young lady that I'm very fond of on this website.

Uh oh Lizzy looks like your Rush Daddy may stray!!!:p

[RushDog]

Uh oh Lizzy looks like your Rush Daddy may stray!!!:p

No need to go there. I just know a good person when I see one.

[lizzyj]

Well let's see, she's a Republican, a Christian, a Bears fan, has a great sense of humor, and stands up for her beliefs. Yeah, real shocker there. Sounds alot like another young lady that I'm very fond of on this website.

That's right rushdaddy!

Republican all the way!!!!!!

:p

[X1TX]

I don't know, Frank. After taking a second look, I can definately see some drag queen potential. He's very thin, and has a very feminine looking face. If he arched his eyebrows, and used the right mascara, and right wig, I can see him up on stage, at the La Cage, singing some Donna Summer!

Too Wong Foo, baby!


http://images.43things.com/profile/57847s160.jpg

And he does such a heart rending version of "At the Copa"..........

[RushDog]

And he does such a heart rending version of "At the Copa"..........

I could picture that!

[X1TX]

Muslims are not evil nor dangerous. Their religion doesn't talk about doing evil things.. nor about killing people.

Radical Muslims have broken off from true Islam and are creating their own 'version' of that religion... much like there are many sects to Christianity.


Not entirely. From Muhammeds own words (the Koran, "The Cow"):
[2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.
[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.


These surahs are by no means the only ones advocating killing. They're throughout. I've read the Koran (or Qu'uran if you will) and there are numerous passages that advocate killing the kaffir (non-Muslims, that's you and me). Don't even get me started on dhimmitude.

As far as being sworn in on the Koran, that is a joke. Islam (in the Hadith) teaches that is acceptable for a Muslim to lie (even when taking an oath) if it is for the purpose of furthering Islam.

[sandy]

You're right X1. I have studied Islam and the other big religions for 10 years. If you read up on Islam you will see it is a VERY dangerous religion that says "convert or kill!" The best sites to get a quick education are these:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/

There was violence in other religions a long time ago. And yes there are some radicals who claim a religion to commit violence. But this new violence/ radicalism is just scary.

[yayamiddlesister]

I'm looking at the future, and I see another thread getting locked.

http://www.oldmilltoronto.com/Pics/Fortune%20teller.gif

"...Another thread bites the dust!"
Yep! It shoud get locked and 'throw away the key!'
ENOUGH ALREADY - TO EACH THEIR OWN AND THAT'S IT.

JMO

[Kat4Ever]

Agreed except when the opinion borders on being racist or at the very least full of bigotry....

then thoughtful minds should take offense at it.

[X1TX]

Agreed except when the opinion borders on being racist or at the very least full of bigotry....

then thoughtful minds should take offense at it.

Not racist. I don't like Obama because I don't share his liberal views. I do think he's well polished and a great speaker though. I do think he'll go far in the political world, he will just do so without my support.

[sandy]

Not racist. I don't like Obama because I don't share his liberal views. I do think he's well polished and a great speaker though. I do think he'll go far in the political world, he will just do so without my support.


I agree x1. I don't care about his race. I care that he's a muslim since I KNOW the religion. I don't agree with his politics either. He is charasmatic. But then again, the anti-Christ will be too...

[lizzyj]

I agree x1. I don't care about his race. I care that he's a muslim since I KNOW the religion. I don't agree with his politics either. He is charasmatic. But then again, the anti-Christ will be too...

I usually don't care about race, it's not my style. But with whats going on in the world today, I would fear a muslim's intention, esp in politics, and for those who disagree....There's nothing wrong with Americans wanting an American President.


But none of this really matters, I wouldn't vote for a liberal of any race.

[X1TX]

I can see him up on stage, at the La Cage, singing some Donna Summer!

Too Wong Foo, baby!


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I would have to disagree. He seems to have more of a Carmen Miranda build. But a bunch of fruit on his head and see if that does the trick. ;)

[Kat4Ever]

I agree x1. I don't care about his race. I care that he's a muslim since I KNOW the religion. I don't agree with his politics either. He is charasmatic. But then again, the anti-Christ will be too...

I'm glad that EVERYONE has been warned to STOP discussing religion on this site.................

It's good to be a part of something so fair in this unjust world.

PS. Racism doesn't necessarily have to be just about race. It can be intolerance of just about any kind. It's also slanderous to state that you KNOW a fact about someone.. that probably isn't a fact... but in any case you can't prove.

But it's good to know that certain people on this board will fall prey to whatever the Republican propoganda machine says without doing any research on subjects themselves. Especially when almost EVERY single reputable news source says that what you think is a flat lie.

[lizzyj]

But it's good to know that certain people on this board will fall prey to whatever the Republican propoganda machine says without doing any research on subjects themselves. Especially when almost EVERY single reputable news source says that what you think is a flat lie.


How often do you vote Republican? I have a feeling that you always vote for the same party, regardless of what reason you give for it.

[Kat4Ever]

How often do you vote Republican? I have a feeling that you always vote for the same party, regardless of what reason you give for it.

See, not that I expect you to believe me but that's not true.

I've voted Republican or Independent several times. I have voted Democrat probably more than 70% of the time I would imagine.... maybe even 80%.... but no I don't vote party lines.

I vote for the person and I do my research on who is running.. at least in elections that I consider important.

[lizzyj]

How often do you vote Republican? I have a feeling that you always vote for the same party, regardless of what reason you give for it.

See, not that I expect you to believe me but that's not true.I've voted Republican or Independent several times. I have voted Democrat probably more than 70% of the time I would imagine.... maybe even 80%.... but no I don't vote party lines.

I vote for the person and I do my research on who is running.. at least in elections that I consider important.

I have no reason not to believe you.

See, that's twice now I've seen you show a great deal of taste!!!

progress is being made.

[frank]

I agree x1. I don't care about his race. I care that he's a muslim since I KNOW the religion. I don't agree with his politics either. He is charasmatic. But then again, the anti-Christ will be too...[/I]

[I] I'm glad that EVERYONE has been warned to STOP discussing religion on this site.................

It's good to be a part of something so fair in this unjust world.

PS. Racism doesn't necessarily have to be just about race. It can be intolerance of just about any kind. It's also slanderous to state that you KNOW a fact about someone.. that probably isn't a fact... but in any case you can't prove.

But it's good to know that certain people on this board will fall prey to whatever the Republican propoganda machine says without doing any research on subjects themselves. Especially when almost EVERY single reputable news source says that what you think is a flat lie.

As improbable as this will appear, I have to agree with Kat. These boards should avoid in depth personal analysis of others religious beliefs. Making derogatory and inflammatory remarks about someones faith can only create a situation of adversity leading to arguments.

The outcome of these opinionated posts will inevitably lead to wars. And these wars will be the reason for threads getting locked.

I also agree with Kat's analysis of racism.

It's true you know, Never discuss Sex, Politics, or Religion.

[RushDog]

Devil, get thee behind!

[sandy]

The problem is other than Idol, religion and politics are some of the most fascinating things to discuss.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

The problem is other than Idol, religion and politics are some of the most fascinating things to discuss.

I try not to get involved with discussions involving politics or Reliogion.....I had enough of that when i was a bartender.......haveing to decide who to throw out of the bar because it always led to an argument.........things get very heated very quickly! It is best to stay away from them.........

[RushDog]

The problem is other than Idol, religion and politics are some of the most fascinating things to discuss.

Yes they are. The only problem is, is that there are certain individuals who just can't agree to disagree on this subject, and like to turn it into a personal attack. That's probably why it's best not to discuss this here.

On the other hand, I do love your boldness and audacity to proclaim your faith. The notion that you, as a Christian, are supposed to acknowledge other gods and religions as legit, and equal to yours, is totally insane. So, stick by your guns, sister!

[Kat4Ever]

Actually Frank I don't mind discussing them.. nor do I get my feelings hurt.

That really wasn't the basis behind my post.

The one it was posted to knows exactly what I meant by it.

My own personal opinion is that we are all adults.. and therefore should be able to handle adult topics and conversations.

If you as an individual (not meaning you Frank I know you can handle yourself - but 'you' in general') can't handle a topic or don't want to be involved in a topic.. it's as easy as not opening a thread.

I'm not sure why there's such a problem on this site with people getting 'threatened' (or umm at least certain people being threatened).. or banned because they SAY something that someone doesn't agree with.

Granted some arguements might get heated.. but as long as they don't turn overly personal.. this is still a message board and should be open for any discussion that any person wants to start and anyone esle wants to join.

HOWEVER.. if that's NOT going to be the case... then ALL conversations on a certain subject should be banned... not just one opinion on that subject.

[Kat4Ever]

Yes they are. The only problem is, is that there are certain individuals who just can't agree to disagree on this subject, and like to turn it into a personal attack. That's probably why it's best not to discuss this here.

Hmmmm sort of like you've done, right Rush????

On the other hand, I do love your boldness and audacity to proclaim your faith. The notion that you, as a Christian, are supposed to acknowledge other gods and religions as legit, and equal to yours, is totally insane. So, stick by your guns, sister!

And the notion that you as a Christian are supposed to throw stones and put other people down is just as ridiculous. It's funny you proclaim to be of a teaching.. but then don't follow that teaching.

But then again, you also know all about that don't you Rush?

Also, the shoe fits on the other foot.. if someone doesn't agree with your teaching then they have every right to 'stick by their guns' also and defend themselves... just as you have a right to defend yourself.

It's NOT just your way.. or no way.. no matter what you believe or want.

Get over yourself. Seriously.

[RushDog]

Yes they are. The only problem is, is that there are certain individuals who just can't agree to disagree on this subject, and like to turn it into a personal attack. That's probably why it's best not to discuss this here.

Hmmmm sort of like you've done, right Rush????

On the other hand, I do love your boldness and audacity to proclaim your faith. The notion that you, as a Christian, are supposed to acknowledge other gods and religions as legit, and equal to yours, is totally insane. So, stick by your guns, sister!

And the notion that you as a Christian are supposed to throw stones and put other people down is just as ridiculous. It's funny you proclaim to be of a teaching.. but then don't follow that teaching.

But then again, you also know all about that don't you Rush?

Also, the shoe fits on the other foot.. if someone doesn't agree with your teaching then they have every right to 'stick by their guns' also and defend themselves... just as you have a right to defend yourself.

It's NOT just your way.. or no way.. no matter what you believe or want.

Get over yourself. Seriously.

Hey,I know what I am, that's why I'm so thankful for the grace that I don't deserve. I don't depend on myself for my own salvation, otherwise, I'd be screwed. You can bring up everything you see as a shortcoming of mine, it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. You've done it before, and I'm still here. So, as you might have guessed, worrying about what you think of me, is not at the top of my list.

Yes, a person of another faith does have the right to defend what they believe in. But, at the same time, I'm not going to acknowledge their god as being legit. Otherwise, that would be considered idolatry, blasphemous, and lukewarm, which is much more serious than offending somebody like you.


It's NOT just your way.. or no way.. no matter what you believe or want.
Contrair Moufrair, there is only one way, and one of these days, you will find that out. Hopefully, sooner than later.

That's all I have to say. I'm not going to further debate on this subject. All replies to this will be ignored.:cool_shad

[Kat4Ever]

Contrair Moufrair, there is only one way, and one of these days, you will find that out. Hopefully, sooner than later.

Are you suggesting you hope I die? Interesting.

When that happens my friend.. I'm MUCH more comfortable standing before whomever.. then I would think you would be.

To sin is human.. and it can be forgiven based on some beliefs.

To continue to do so is not.

You say you KNOW what you are... but yet you obviously don't care enough to change it.

And yet you still pretend to be something that you are not.

Don't answer.. don't care.

Just don't run crying to mommy like you did before.. claiming that you can't handle it anymore.. and that you're going to leave the site like some little 1st grader (reference the funny little song you posted)...

to get sympathy and then make some grand return as though anyone here thought you weren't coming back anyway.

[lizzyj]

Contrair Moufrair, there is only one way, and one of these days, you will find that out. Hopefully, sooner than later.

Are you suggesting you hope I die? Interesting.
When that happens my friend.. I'm MUCH more comfortable standing before whomever.. then I would think you would be.

To sin is human.. and it can be forgiven based on some beliefs.

To continue to do so is not.

You say you KNOW what you are... but yet you obviously don't care enough to change it.

And yet you still pretend to be something that you are not.

Don't answer.. don't care.

Just don't run crying to mommy like you did before.. claiming that you can't handle it anymore.. and that you're going to leave the site like some little 1st grader (reference the funny little song you posted)...

to get sympathy and then make some grand return as though anyone here thought you weren't coming back anyway.

He wasn't hoping that you die, he was saying that he hoped you found Christ while alive and not wait until you are dead to realize the truth.

[lizzyj]

But I wasn't going to talk religion, and still are not, just wanted to clarify. I wouldn't want anyone to die, and I know Rush doesn't either. Just wanted you to understand what he meant.

[RushDog]

Just don't run crying to mommy like you did before.. claiming that you can't handle it anymore.. and that you're going to leave the site like some little 1st grader (reference the funny little song you posted)...

to get sympathy and then make some grand return as though anyone here thought you weren't coming back anyway.

Don't worry, I won't. I'm here to stay.

And, to answer your question on whether I wished you would die, Lizzy answered it perfectly.

God Bless you, brother.

[frank]

Don't worry, I won't. I'm here to stay.

And, to answer your question on whether I wished you would die, Lizzy answered it perfectly.

God Bless you, brother.
AMEN BROTHERS RUSH AND KAT!!!

Next weeks sermon Topic.

[RushDog]

AMEN BROTHERS RUSH AND KAT!!!

Next weeks sermon Topic.

Very nice, Frank. Although, I'm not a Charasmatic.

[frank]

Very nice, Frank. Although, I'm not a Charasmatic.Baptist? or maybe....

[frank]

Mybe you're Catholic????

[RushDog]

Mybe you're Catholic????

Southern Baptist, baby!

[Kat4Ever]

Then my sincere apologies for misunderstanding.

And I'm Catholic.. but that was classic either way.

[lizzyj]

It was pretty cool

Frank you amaze me.

[lizzyj]

Then my sincere apologies for misunderstanding.

And I'm Catholic.. but that was classic either way.

We all misunderstand something, everyday.

no worries.

[yayamiddlesister]

So many religions lead to so many opinions which always leads to an argument amongst someone because of so many 'different' beliefs. I've read enough of this to not say a little something. And that is this: I know where I'm going when I die and what a day that will be! I'll face nobody's record but my own. And He's the only one I'll have to answer to.

[sandy]

Can we have a group hug now and sing Kumbaye?:luxhello:

Your discussions/posts/pics were great.:beerchug:

[Kat4Ever]

Sandy, Sandy, Sandy....

now that the Fox 'Noise' Channel (as Mr. Keith Olbermann so eloquently puts it) has said that all their reports about Mr. Obama being Islamic and attending Islamic meetings and everything else were ummmmm... false...

what are you going to spout off about now?

It's sort of like all the times now that Bill O'Reilly and his best buddy Rush Limbaugh have been caught (and in Limbaugh's case have ADMITTED to lying) to advance the Republican propoganda machine.

Nice.

[sandy]

Barack Hussein Obama is and will always be a muslim. Now he's claiming to be related to our founding fathers. Yeah, I believe that. Not.:rolleyes:



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54047

[RushDog]

Barack Hussein Obama is and will always be a muslim. Now he's claiming to be related to our founding fathers. Yeah, I believe that. Not.:rolleyes:



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54047

Now, I could see if he said he was related to Thomas Jefferson, because he had some black mistresses who beared his children, but I don't know about Washington and Madison.

[sandy]

I know. What a crock. Anything to take the focus off his being a muslim. I still think his numbers are going down. America will never elect a muslim as POTUS.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[RushDog]

I know. What a crock. Anything to take the focus off his being a muslim. I still think his numbers are going down. America will never elect a muslim as POTUS.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

I've lived in the South long enough to know that that won't happen. I don't see him getting any red states.

[Kat4Ever]

Well Sandy... now that I and everyone else knows where you get your news from....

Noone should EVER question your astute journalistic abilities nor acumen again.

Your sources are impeccable and above reproach.

[sandy]

I've lived in the South long enough to know that that won't happen. I don't see him getting any red states.

No. The South knows a fraud when they smell one.:(


http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[RushDog]

No. The South knows a fraud when they smell one.:(


http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Yeah, muslims aren't real popular here in the belt buckle of the Bible belt. It's just a fact.

[sandy]

Do you think Romney will get the Repub nod even tho he's a mormon? I know the Christian Right likes to support Christian presidents, but Ann Coulter said something interesting last nite on O'Reilly: "Romney has a working knowledge of God." And something about the Republican party being one of many religions or something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney

[RushDog]

Do you think Romney will get the Repub nod even tho he's a mormon? I know the Christian Right likes to support Christian presidents, but Ann Coulter said something interesting last nite on O'Reilly: "Romney has a working knowledge of God." And something about the Republican party being one of many religions or something.

I think Milt has a good chance. I wished I would've watched O'Reilly last night.

[sandy]

It was great as usual. So was Hannity.

Did you see Al Franken is running for the senate in MN? Those voters might just be ignorant enough to elect him. They elected a muslim and a wrestler to high offices so far. So nothing they do would surprise me.:(

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249160,00.html

[RushDog]

It was great as usual. So was Hannity.

Did you see Al Franken is running for the senate in MN? Those voters might just be ignorant enough to elect him. They elected a muslim and a wrestler to high offices so far. So nothing they do would surprise me.:(

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249160,00.html

Yeah, I love Hannity. Yeah, Jessie the Body. He was a real winner.

[Kat4Ever]

Did you know that Tom Cruise is an alien?

It's true. I heard something about it in Star Magazine.

[Kat4Ever]

btw.. Ann Coulter has NEVER said anything interesting in her life.

However I did think it was funny when she got indicted for voter fraud.

All she is, is a 'shock jock'.. anybody that listens to her and thinks he or she is getting the 'real news' is kidding themselves.

[sandy]

Yeah, I love Hannity. Yeah, Jessie the Body. He was a real winner.

That's why I figure if they elected Jessie they might be dumb enough to elect Franken. God I hope not. Franken is an America-hating, terrorist-supporting moron.:throwup:

[RushDog]

That's why I figure if they elected Jessie they might be dumb enough to elect Franken. God I hope not. Franken is an America-hating, terrorist-supporting moron.:throwup:

I'm glad I don't live in Minnesota. Besides being the home of one of my most hated football teams, they show poor judgement on who they elect.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

It was great as usual. So was Hannity.

Did you see Al Franken is running for the senate in MN? Those voters might just be ignorant enough to elect him. They elected a muslim and a wrestler to high offices so far. So nothing they do would surprise me.:(

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249160,00.html

I respected MN for electing Jesse Ventura This Country needs a change! What is the difference between the Republicans and Democrats? Take Bush and Kerry they have a lot of money , both went to Yale and both are members of Skull and Bones.....where exactly is the difference?

[frank]

Wow, I checked out the website that you have a link to. I thought that military militia groups in America were on the downside.
But apparently I was wrong. I tried to research the site originators but so far have come up with Nada.

Sandy, I love you like a "crazy little sister", but a steady diet of websites like "the religion of peace", will soon have you paranoid to the point of building a bomb shelter in your back yard and demanding that the U.S. reinstate "internment camps" for Muslim U.S. Citizens.

[Kat4Ever]

Well, Kim, there are significant and inherit philosophical differences between the 2 parties.

However, with politics as it is today, you might not generally see them played out in Washington.

The suggestion that the Republicans are the party of religion is a joke.. and made for political reasons, although it is true that the far Christian right generally support them because of their 'moral' values (although if you've followed the political career of Mr George Bush you've no doubt noticed he's not really a moral character and he hasn't come through on any of his campaign promises to the Christian right).

That assumption generally comes from the fact that more Democrats are 'left' thinkers or more 'liberal' in thought and generally think that most people can think for themselves and that government shouldn't govern morality.

It all comes down to - with that one point - do you want a group of people with THEIR moral opinions - telling everyone else how they should live.

Most peoples say no.

Generally the Dems are more 'in tune' with the lower class or at least give the semblance of caring... meaning more government programs to help out the lower classes... while Republicans care more about 'big business' and lining the pockets of the wealthier classes.

The whole idea of one group being for 'bigger' government while the other wants 'less' government is sort of a sham anymore. As has been proven by this administration both parties have a way of spending WAY too much money.

Also historically the Republicans have cared more about the military or at least about spending more money on the military (not necessarily more money on the troops).

Personally as I've said before I always vote the person and not the party.. because it's the individuals beliefs that matter most (as long as they don't vote party lines always)... but I tend to lean Democrat (although I consider myself an Independent)... because their values and philosophies most mirror mine.

I also personally don't care what anyone votes as long as they know WHY they are voting for such.

I have little faith in someone that says they ALWAYS vote one party or the other because all that does is tell me that that person knows very little actually about politics and certainly not enough to care about paying attention to the actual matters at hand.

I also have little patience for the far Christian right that puts their agenda ahead of anything that's actually important.. for instance in the last Presidential election once again trying to make morality a decision maker (and it worked if you believe the polls where a good number of people said that one of their MAIN reasons for voting for Bush was because they believed he was moral.........)..... wow what a reason to vote for someone. Doesn't matter what their stance is on military issues.. or economic issues... or environmental issues... but he was a moral man.

Why by the way he's not.

[Kat4Ever]

Hahaha Frank.

I would only say this.

You do realize you're addressing the deaf and blind right?

I'd say dumb also but that would be mean.

[X1TX]

btw.. Ann Coulter has NEVER said anything interesting in her life.

All she is, is a 'shock jock'.. anybody that listens to her and thinks he or she is getting the 'real news' is kidding themselves.

Actually, Annie is quite entertaining. Her articles peg the sarcasm meter right off the bat. No, it's not 'real news' as she writes editorials and commentaries, not news articles. She's a columnist, not a reporter. Anyone who thinks her articles are 'real news' doesn't know the difference.

[Kat4Ever]

As a follow up... if you're going to the polls and your MAIN reason for voting for someone is because they are against gay marriage.... then as far as I'm concerned you're out of touch.

Personal opinion aside.. who really cares if 2 gay people want to get married?

It certainly doesn't amount to much in terms of being important to ANYTHING that has to do with ANYTHING economically or environmentally.

[frank]

As a follow up... if you're going to the polls and your MAIN reason for voting for someone is because they are against gay marriage.... then as far as I'm concerned you're out of touch.

Personal opinion aside.. who really cares if 2 gay people want to get married?

It certainly doesn't amount to much in terms of being important to ANYTHING that has to do with ANYTHING economically or environmentally.As a recovering republican conservative i have a viewpoint that many don't have. i have seen the differences that all of the parties bring to the table.

i now listen to all party platforms. i cannot believe how polarized the U.S. people have become towards each other.

I now enjoy more news outs besides the "fair and Balanced" ones. One of my newest Heroes is Keith Olbermann of MSNBC. He speaks from the heart and really seems to care.

I have changed my attitude and opinion on gays. if they want to get married, let them. People will still have babies people. We won't become a planet of only Gay inhabitants.

I'm tired of being told that I have to always be afraid.

Here's an interesting development, more and more I seem to be agreeing with Kat.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Well, Kim, there are significant and inherit philosophical differences between the 2 parties.

However, with politics as it is today, you might not generally see them played out in Washington.

The suggestion that the Republicans are the party of religion is a joke.. and made for political reasons, although it is true that the far Christian right generally support them because of their 'moral' values (although if you've followed the political career of Mr George Bush you've no doubt noticed he's not really a moral character and he hasn't come through on any of his campaign promises to the Christian right).

That assumption generally comes from the fact that more Democrats are 'left' thinkers or more 'liberal' in thought and generally think that most people can think for themselves and that government shouldn't govern morality.

It all comes down to - with that one point - do you want a group of people with THEIR moral opinions - telling everyone else how they should live.

Most peoples say no.

Generally the Dems are more 'in tune' with the lower class or at least give the semblance of caring... meaning more government programs to help out the lower classes... while Republicans care more about 'big business' and lining the pockets of the wealthier classes.

The whole idea of one group being for 'bigger' government while the other wants 'less' government is sort of a sham anymore. As has been proven by this administration both parties have a way of spending WAY too much money.

Also historically the Republicans have cared more about the military or at least about spending more money on the military (not necessarily more money on the troops).

Personally as I've said before I always vote the person and not the party.. because it's the individuals beliefs that matter most (as long as they don't vote party lines always)... but I tend to lean Democrat (although I consider myself an Independent)... because their values and philosophies most mirror mine.

I also personally don't care what anyone votes as long as they know WHY they are voting for such.

I have little faith in someone that says they ALWAYS vote one party or the other because all that does is tell me that that person knows very little actually about politics and certainly not enough to care about paying attention to the actual matters at hand.

I also have little patience for the far Christian right that puts their agenda ahead of anything that's actually important.. for instance in the last Presidential election once again trying to make morality a decision maker (and it worked if you believe the polls where a good number of people said that one of their MAIN reasons for voting for Bush was because they believed he was moral.........)..... wow what a reason to vote for someone. Doesn't matter what their stance is on military issues.. or economic issues... or environmental issues... but he was a moral man.

Why by the way he's not.


Yeah Rich I knew that as far as The Republicans lined the pockets of the wealthy and the Democrats helped the less fortunate......but it just seems to me that the lines are growing closer together.....I too vote for the Man and not Party lines! I don't believe in that what would someone do if say Billy Joe Jim Bob was running for president on the ticket either Republican or Democrat what would those people do then........As far as Bush goes I absolutely no faith in him and I never have he walks like a Rooster and he doesn't have any plans his speeches are all the same mumbo jumbo.......We will have to see who we can get for 2008.......I believe that Bush bought his way into office basically he did...people with a lot of money wanted him in the office and we as a country had no choice. If more people would take the time to vote maybe we would be in a better situation......people such as my husband who never voted never registered but would complain all the time. I finally told him you don't have a right to complain because you don't vote!

[Kat4Ever]

What I like best about Bush is his arrogant smirk.

And anybody that says he doesn't have oe is a liar.

He has the most arrogant look on his face, especially during his speeches.. as if he's saying 'I know more than you, I'm smarter than you and I AM THE PRESIDENT'... which by the way he's said before.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

What I like best about Bush is his arrogant smirk.

And anybody that says he doesn't have oe is a liar.

He has the most arrogant look on his face, especially during his speeches.. as if he's saying 'I know more than you, I'm smarter than you and I AM THE PRESIDENT'... which by the way he's said before.

Yeah he is an arrogant SOB!!!!

[frank]

What I like best about Bush is his arrogant smirk.

And anybody that says he doesn't have oe is a liar.

He has the most arrogant look on his face, especially during his speeches.. as if he's saying 'I know more than you, I'm smarter than you and I AM THE PRESIDENT'... which by the way he's said before.
Nooooooo!!!!

[Kat4Ever]

One of my newest Heroes is Keith Olbermann of MSNBC. He speaks from the heart and really seems to care.

Olbermann is da bomb!!!!

His 'special comments' rock.. and are very much from the heart.

By the way, I'm like you, Frank. I get my news from several sources. Although I despise O'Reilly - it's necessary to watch the guy to get his views on things. And I just love the 'fair and balanced' reporting that you get from the Fox 'Noise' Channel.. but once again it's necessary to get conflicting views on things.

But then again I'm a news junkie. I probably watch or at least browse through 4-5 hours of news programming each night.

I 'tape' everything.. and then watch it on my DVR late at night usually. That way I can just fast forward through stuff I don't care about.. and watch thoroughly the stuff I do.

Also.. Frankie.. I've said before I know you're a good guy and very much less like the others that sometimes you 'hang' out with.

We've always had similar views.. and similar ways of presenting them.

[frank]

Also.. Frankie..

I've said before I know you're a good guy and very much less like the others that sometimes you 'hang' out with.

We've always had similar views.. and similar ways of presenting them.
First of all Kat, the people that I hang out with are no different than you.
They believe what they believe, they have their opinions, and they're just people hanging out on a goofy message board. That being said we do have some things in common. I'm just tired of getting into pissing matches over some really insignificant trivial matters. Now fighting over who's a better singer, Mcphee or Hicks, now that's a reason to go to war....

Hmmmmmm do I see our relationship going to a new level??

[Kat4Ever]

Ahhhhh.. but who is the Master and who is the Padawan?

Frank, I AM your father.

[Kat4Ever]

They believe what they believe, they have their opinions, and they're just people hanging out on a goofy message board.

Actually I somewhat disagree with you.

There is a difference of advancing your opinion as fact because you are so closed minded that there CAN BE no differing opinions....

and discussing your opinion because you like discussing and receiving different opinions on subjects that you find fascinating.

There's also a difference from saying you dislike someone.. and presenting negative racial and slanderous views of said person as well.

Granted, everyone has an opinion... some are just more well presented and tolerable than others.

As my father taught me:

"No opinion is stupid... nor is any question stupid... just sometimes the people with the opinions and the questions are."

[frank]

Dude.....


You're way overthinking this whole message board thing....

[sandy]

:yelrotflm

p.s. Where's today's blog? I want to read about last nite!

[frank]

:yelrotflm

p.s. Where's today's blog? I want to read about last nite!

i'm working on a different subject line. these early shows are killin me

[Kat4Ever]

You're way overthinking this whole message board thing....

Nah, I just have a different way of thinking about things... or viewing things.

[RushDog]

Now fighting over who's a better singer, Mcphee or Hicks, now that's a reason to go to war....



...Or, who's the hottest chick on Idol.

[sadie]

Frank I really don't agree with the messages on you 'church signs' but must admit.......the 'sign' idea is funny.

[frank]

Frank I really don't agree with the messages on you 'church signs' but must admit.......the 'sign' idea is funny.


Sister...you need to show more love towards the brethren.....

[sadie]

Frank.......I LOVE IT..........hahahahaha :p

You are soooo funny..............:p

[frank]

Ahhhhh.. but who is the Master and who is the Padawan?

Frank, I AM your father.
Comparing your avatar to the picture I would say that I'm the darker guy on the right.

[RushDog]

Comparing your avatar to the picture I would say that I'm the darker guy on the right.

That's always something to aspire to. :eek:

[sandy]

The latest on Obama is that Senator Biden called him clean or something.

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. Hmmm...

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=37c41dce-043f-48d1-91ff-dd351305ba24&k=93438

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Sister...you need to show more love towards the brethren.....

You will keep trying won't you Frankie!! Lol....;)

[RushDog]

The latest on Obama is that Senator Biden called him clean or something.

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. Hmmm...

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=37c41dce-043f-48d1-91ff-dd351305ba24&k=93438

I still don't think he'll be a big hit in rural Arkansas, or any other red state. I lived in the south for a long time, I know how southerners think, and what they say, and I can assure you, that he does not fit the mold of what they want in a President, no matter how qualified he is.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I still don't think he'll be a big hit in rural Arkansas, or any other red state. I lived in the south for a long time, I know how southerners think, and what they say, and I can assure you, that he does not fit the mold of what they want in a President, no matter how qualified he is.

That is a shame to me we all bleed the same and he is a citizen of this country........He could very well be a great Presiden!!!!

[RushDog]

That is a shame to me we all bleed the same and he is a citizen of this country........He could very well be a great Presiden!!!!

Maybe so. But I also know that race relations haven't changed much down south, and the whites are not going to vote for a black guy with a muslim name. It's just not going to happen.

[sandy]

I just don't think he's qualified either. He's an empty suit senator with nothing interesting to his credit.

The muslim name and religion will hurt him. Amercians are too smart to elect him.

[Kat4Ever]

Amercians are too smart to elect him.

No, Sandy. Americans like you are too... ummmmmmm.... well there's no nice way to say it so you can just imagine what I think you are...

to give him any credit that he might deserve.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Maybe so. But I also know that race relations haven't changed much down south, and the whites are not going to vote for a black guy with a muslim name. It's just not going to happen.

That bites!!! I remember when there was talk of Colin Powell running for President but the south is too stuck in the past to elect such a man i just don't understand! I think that's one of the problems today...we need a man in office that has fought in a war that has been there and knows what is going on......These guys that are running don't have any experience....what do they know about the war?

[X1TX]

I doubt Obama would be elected this time around because:
1: No 'track record' in Washington (no experience, not that that's a bad thing)
2: Hillary has orders of magnitude more campaign cash than Obama
3: He'll lose some votes due to the Muslim connection.
4: His views are even to the left of Hillary, he's far more liberal than the country as a whole.

Personally, I'm not enamoured with any of the POTUS candidates so far. Is there a "None of the Above" vote?

[frank]

I doubt Obama would be elected this time around because:
1: No 'track record' in Washington (no experience, not that that's a bad thing)
2: Hillary has orders of magnitude more campaign cash than Obama
3: He'll lose some votes due to the Muslim connection.
4: His views are even to the left of Hillary, he's far more liberal than the country as a whole.

Personally, I'm not enamoured with any of the POTUS candidates so far. Is there a "None of the Above" vote?
Here we have the insidious, evil, Muslim terrorist
Barrack Hussein Obama, infiltrating the halls of the Senate, undermining God, Apple Pie, and Chevrolet. We're Doomed!!!!!!!!!

[RushDog]

Here we have the insidious, evil, Muslim terrorist
Barrack Hussein Obama, infiltrating the halls of the Senate, undermining God, Apple Pie, and Chevrolet. We're Doomed!!!!!!!!!

Yes, we have a Sith hiding among us.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/04/15/sith_wideweb__430x292.jpg

[sandy]

When people understand how dangerous Islam is, they understand why Obama won't make it.

[RushDog]

When people understand how dangerous Islam is, they understand why Obama won't make it.

I understand. Trust me, I understand.

[sandy]

I know you do. You're one of the really smart ones here. The ones who have their heads buried in the sand won't get it until another 911 or worse.

[Kat4Ever]

I know you do. You're one of the really smart ones here.

That's one of the funniest things you've ever said. Truly.

The ones who have their heads buried in the sand won't get it until another 911 or worse.

Did you just slam muslims again?

I've got news for you... the predicament we're in right now because of your beloved George Bush is already worse than 9/11.

And it's people like you that make it worse.

You DO REALIZE that even Bush isn't dumb enough to say we're fighting Muslims, right? In fact he's gone out of his way to say we're not.

And if, in fact, we were... why is he wanting to spend BILLIONS of dollars to rebuild Iraq? He's not trying to convert them... although he is trying to redo their government. But that has NOTHING to do with their religion.

You do understand that don't you?

No, I guess you don't.

[frank]

I know you do. You're one of the really smart ones here. The ones who have their heads buried in the sand won't get it until another 911 or worse.I'm taking this very seriously.....Look what just happened in Boston yesterday. The entire city was at a standstill because of this Radical wing of the Muslim religion...........

[RushDog]

I know you do. You're one of the really smart ones here.

Thank you, I agree.

The ones who have their heads buried in the sand won't get it until another 911 or worse.

You're right. Then they will somehow aquire a temporal faith, to try to get them through the tough times, just like they did during 9/11, then a few months later try to forget about all that "God" stuff. Only next time, there won't be any end in site, because we will be going through the apocalypse, and all the saved will be raptured, and the unsaved will be left behind, and will have to go through seven years of tribulation, if they make it that far.

[sadie]

Did you just slam Muslims again?
I will have to say I am tired of people slamming muslims......not all are evil, cold hearted killers......and I personally know one that is absolutely a great person!



You DO REALIZE that even Bush isn't dumb enough to say we're fighting Muslims, right? In fact he's gone out of his way to say we're not.

And if, in fact, we were... why is he wanting to spend BILLIONS of dollars to rebuild Iraq? He's not trying to convert them... although he is trying to redo their government. But that has NOTHING to do with their religion.

I think this is the best point I have seen you make. Even GW Bush would never say this war was over religion....... because its NOT.

Here is something else........people keep saying stuff like K4E can only see one side....or head buried or whatever.
What most of you don't know is how he and I even differ on some issues....for example he knows I voted for Bush and he has NEVER belittled nor chastised me for it....
Maybe we all need to be more open to others views.

[frank]

I voted for Bush [/I]and he had NEVER belittled nor chastised me for it....
Maybe we all need to be more open to others views. You mean You voted for Cheney

[sadie]

You mean You voted for Cheney

You are funny, Frank!!!

I won't be doing it again.......ha ha

[RushDog]

Me either. Probably because he's not running again. I used to see him everyday, when I worked for him. He's a great guy. His wife Lynn is a sweet lady.

[Kat4Ever]

Wow, I didn't think there was a person alive that would still admit to knowing or liking Cheney.

I honestly didn't.

Especially with all the hot water he's in right now.

Of course he's always been a jerk and a liar to be honest.. now he's just getting caught at it.

[RushDog]

He always very nice to me, and treated me with alot of respect, and I'll always remember that. Especially since I was just a senior airman in the Air Force, and he was the Secretary of Defense. I used to cater Lynn's tea parties at the Old Post Office in Washington D.C., when she would host tea parties for the wives of visiting foreign ministers of defense, while they were in town. She was always real sweet to me, and treated me like family.

[sadie]

That bites!!! I remember when there was talk of Colin Powell running for President but the south is too stuck in the past to elect such a man i just don't understand! I think that's one of the problems today...we need a man in office that has fought in a war that has been there and knows what is going on......These guys that are running don't have any experience....what do they know about the war?

Not all of the South is like that.....

Anyone who doesn't look at the candidate and his views and only
looks at his race........is doing the entire country an injustice!!!!!!!!!

(and they should be ashamed)

[frank]

before this gets nutty crazy all parties involved should take a deep breath and possibly a timeout

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Not all of the South is like that.....

Anyone who doesn't look at the candidate and his views and only
looks at his race........is doing the entire country an injustice!!!!!!!!!

(and they should be ashamed)


I am so happy to hear that!!!!! We should have progressed I mean after all we are in the 21st century......;)

[sadie]

I am so happy to hear that!!!!! We should have progressed I mean after all we are in the 21st century......;)

Now I realize the South is more conservative than alot of the Nation but that is no excuse for plain old fashioned prejudice behavior.

We need to call it what it is......WRONG.

[sadie]

before this gets nutty crazy all parties involved should take a deep breath and possibly a timeout

Dont worry......I have everything completely in control...

Don't you believe me? :p

[RushDog]

Now I realize the South is more conservative than alot of the Nation but that is no excuse for plain old fashioned prejudice behavior.

We need to call it what it is......WRONG.

Yes, it is wrong. But, it is what it is. Maybe not all white southerners are prejudice, but I can guarantee you that most of them are. The ones I dealt with (and still deal with) on a regular basis, use the "N" word without any hesitation. And, it's not just in the south, there's people up north who are the same way. Boston is probably one of the most racially prejudiced cities in America. If the Democrats want one of their own to be elected, they better nominate somebody else, otherwise they're just wasting their time.

[sadie]

Yes, it is wrong. But, it is what it is. Maybe not all white southerners are prejudice, but I can guarantee you that most of them are.
I am one southerner that would call someone out for such behavior.
I have to deal with people from all walks of life and know that race is what is on the outside, not the inside. It is very disturbing to me to see some discount a person simply based on race.

The ones I dealt with (and still deal with) on a regular basis, use the "N" word without any hesitation.
And that sickens me........

[RushDog]

I am one southerner that would call someone out for such behavior.
I have to deal with people from all walks of life and know that race is what is on the outside, not the inside. It is very disturbing to me to see some discount a person simply based on race.


And that sickens me........

I had to deal with alot of it while I was in Arkansas. Being in a interracial marriage(my wife is Filipina), alot of the whites treated us like we were some type of novelty. I was really surprised because we had just came from overseas, and didn't have to deal with that at all. My kids didn't know prejudice because they spent most of their childhood overseas. That's one of the reasons we left Arkansas is because I didn't want my kids growing up in that environment.

[Kat4Ever]

Rush, I'm sorry but I have to call you out again.

You play 2 sides of this situation like a real pro, but you're not fooling me or probably anybody else but Sandy on here.

You sit here and SLAM Barama for being Muslim.. you talk about how we're in a war against them... how evil their religion is... or at least you don't disagree with your newest, closest friend on the site...

You talk about how most every white person in the south is a racist... and use the 'N' word....

You've belittled and demeaned women over and over on this site.....

and THEN you talk about how you're in an interracial relationship and have treated your kids to not be disrespectful of anyone despite their race.........

You can't have it both ways, my friend.

You are what you are... remember you saying that?

You are exactly what you portray 'white' people in the South as. It's who you are... it's what you're like. It's exactly how you act on this site.

And it's disgraceful. It's shameful just like Sadie said. And it's sickening that in today's day and age there are still those like you and others that I know believe as you do.

[RushDog]

Religion and race are two totally different things. You can be a black man, and be a Christian, and you can be a white man, and be a Muslim. When you are born of a certain race, that is not by choice. However, religion is a choice. So on that note, I can be biased against Muslims. I will not mistreat them, but I'm not going to honor Islam as legit because I know the truth. I will not compromise my beliefs to be politically correct. The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ, not some moon god named Allah.

Nice try though. Devil, get thee behind.

[sandy]

Rush- I absolutely agree with you. Many people in this country blame Bush for everything wrong in the world. Some people call them liberals, democrats, or confused. I call them pathetic losers. It's treasonist/traitor behavior to slam a sitting president during a war on terror against evil muslims. And no, not all muslims are evil.

We are at war against something/people who are SO evil, they will stop at nothing to convert or kill all "infidels"-- (US!) Ignoring the problem will result in another 911. Fighting it like we are now keeps it in their part of the world. Even tho there are muslims here who are plotting to destroy us. They just caught another one in Rockford, IL. He was trying to blow up a mall.

I'm wondering how many people here knew/loved someone killed 911? I'm guessing no one. How many here knew the agony of being trapped under a pile of twisted metal, iron, bricks, smoke, and fire because some psychotic muslims hijacked OUR planes and hit OUR buildings with them? I'm guessing none. 911 was a wakeup call, the beginning of WW3. The muslims declared it and we will win it. (Despite pansy-@ss whiners wanting out of Iraq before we've officially won.)

Good always prevails over evil in the end.

[sadie]

I have an idea......

Why don't we all just admit to what will be the deciding factors
when placing our votes...

Will it be based on the candidate's..........experience, knowledge and stand on all the issues?

Or

Will it be based on skin color, their last name, and what church they attend?


I will start.......
I will base my vote on the candidate's experience, knowledge and stand on the issues.

[sandy]

I don't care about skin color, what church they attend, OR their last name. However, many Americans do. I care about what's honestly in their heart/spirit. If I based my vote on the first three, I'd be a typical Hillary supporter. And I'm not because of what is in her heart/spirit ( lust,greed,over-ambition,power,dishonesty,lack of integrity,selfishness etc...)

I would vote for Mitt Romney but a lot of Americans won't because he's a Mormon.
I would not vote for John McCain because I don't trust him.
I would not vote for Rudy Guiliani because he's too liberal for me.
I would vote for John Edwards if I was a democrat.

So, for most of us it's not about skin color, what church they attend, or their last names. But for many Americans, it just is...

[Kat4Ever]

Rush- I absolutely agree with you. Many people in this country blame Bush for everything wrong in the world. Some people call them liberals, democrats, or confused.

So I take it the Republicans (and in more and more numbers each passing day) that come out again Bush are the confused ones? Or are they the pathetic losers and traitors that you so declare everyone that disagrees with your points of view... sad as they are.

So, for most of us it's not about skin color, what church they attend, or their last names. But for many Americans, it just is...

BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA......

AAAHHHHH HAHA HAHHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Ummmmm.... so you've spent the better part of your time on IdolMe slamming everyone that disagrees with you. Slamming other religions... slamming ALL Muslims... slamming Obama because YOU say he's muslim (when even the news sites that first reported that he was have now said those were false reports).... basically agreeing with your new friend, Rush, that the South is racist (and one can only assume that means you are also)....

BUT... then you have the nerve to say that none of that matters in a Presidential race.

Who are you trying to fool now?

[RushDog]

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Terence: I don't think that's right. I believe the "Dot Dot Dot" come between "Medula" and "Oblongota".
[Morris shakes his head]
Terence: Well, it did!
Morris: The dots are where I say they are. Melody and tune, that's your trade, Terence. You're a tunesmith.

[sandy]

LOL.
O.M.G.

:yelrotflm

[RushDog]

LOL.
O.M.G.

:yelrotflm

Ummmmm.........what? Ummmm....Sandy, aren't you from Rockford? Ummmm....Get's pretty cold up there, huh? Ummmm....I'm from Moline. Ummmm.... It gets pretty cold there too. Ummmm.......Go Bears!

[RushDog]

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/y/c/1/obama_borat_parody.jpg

[frank]

Well I gotta go make bread now.......Then we can all worship at the

"Idol Of the Bears"

GO BEARS!!!

[lizzyj]

I know you do. You're one of the really smart ones here.

That's one of the funniest things you've ever said. Truly.

The ones who have their heads buried in the sand won't get it until another 911 or worse.

Did you just slam muslims again?

I've got news for you... the predicament we're in right now because of your beloved George Bush is already worse than 9/11.

And it's people like you that make it worse.

You DO REALIZE that even Bush isn't dumb enough to say we're fighting Muslims, right? In fact he's gone out of his way to say we're not.

And if, in fact, we were... why is he wanting to spend BILLIONS of dollars to rebuild Iraq? He's not trying to convert them... although he is trying to redo their government. But that has NOTHING to do with their religion.

You do understand that don't you?

No, I guess you don't.

This is America, we are given the right to believe the way we want to. If we don't want a muslim as President, and decide that we want an American, then we can vote American.

Franky I would not vote Muslim after what we have went through as a country. Does that make us wrong? Heck no, that makes us pretty smart if you ask me.

But we all know that you don't put Rush down for his views on this subject, you do it simply because you want to. You seek out ways to put him down and quit frankly, I tired of it.

[Kat4Ever]

You seek out ways to put him down and quit frankly, I tired of it.

One doesn't have to search that hard.

And since this is America and we can all have our opinions.. why should I care if you are tired of it?

[sandy]

Ummmmm.........what? Ummmm....Sandy, aren't you from Rockford? Ummmm....Get's pretty cold up there, huh? Ummmm....I'm from Moline. Ummmm.... It gets pretty cold there too. Ummmm.......Go Bears!

LOL! No, not from Rockford. You are pretty damned funny though!:D

p.s. Revised Bears score prediction: Bears 437 Colts 16

[RushDog]

LOL! No, not from Rockford. You are pretty damned funny though!:D



Somehow, I knew you would get that joke.

[sandy]

:yelrotflm :D

[Kat4Ever]

The mark of true intelligence.

When faced with the undeniable truth about yourself... and you have nothing to say to defend yourself.

Or even better you really know you can't defend yourself or your actions.

Resort to inane attempts at humor.

Hey, at least it makes your newest friend laugh, Rushie.

What a shock.

Come on. We're all waiting for your latest kindergarten attempt to slam me.

I'm rubber and you're glue. Your words bounce off me and stick on you.

(sticking my tongue out at you now)

I'll wait while you look up 'inane' in your dictionary.

I know how you hate it when I use 'big' words against you.

[RushDog]

The mark of true intelligence.

When faced with the undeniable truth about yourself... and you have nothing to say to defend yourself.

Or even better you really know you can't defend yourself or your actions.



I already did, but I guess your ADHD prevented you from noticing. What a tard.

Devil, get thee behind.

[sandy]

LOL!!! Rush- you are a great guy. You're so funny and nice. I'm glad you're here. And all the other really nice Christian people--especially those who have anything Christian in their avatars, signatures etc...:) What a nice place to be.

[Kat4Ever]

And all the other really nice Christian people

Yes because anyone that's not Christian is evil and mean and dirty and disguating and should be thrown out of this country.

Oh and I almost forgot a traitor also.

But wait, you're a traitor if you're a Democrat as well.

So if you're anti-Christian or at least not 'overly' Christian.. or a Democrat.. then you're evil and despicable and disgusting and probably Musim I would imagine.

Let's all get out our guns and go on a nationwide manhunt for anyone that doesn't uphold good moral Christian values.

Oops... what should we do about all the Christians that don't uphold good moral values as well???????

It's a dilhemma.

People like you are scary, Sandy. Seriously.

[RushDog]

People like you are scary, Sandy. Seriously.

http://hem.mac.se/niklasbrunberg/graphics/fullsized/ghost.png

[sandy]

Hey Rush- you're a smart military guy. I have a question for you:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/05/video-jihadis-shriek-allahu-akbar-after-helicopter-strike/

I can't figure it out.

[RushDog]

Hey Rush- you're a smart military guy. I have a question for you:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/05/video-jihadis-shriek-allahu-akbar-after-helicopter-strike/

I can't figure it out.

I don't know, but I love the music.

It's got a funky beat, and I can bug out to it!

[sandy]

LOL!:yelrotflm

"He said "beat." Hu-hu."

[RushDog]

Reminds me of days in the desert, when I would supervise Third Country Nationals from India and Pakistan. They're jamming in the kitchen to East Indian dance music. Sounded like gnats flying around in my ear.

[sandy]

LOL. They say that can make you crazy?:confused:

[frank]

LOL. They say that can make you crazy?:confused:
No Blondie, what can drive us crazy are posts like this one

[RushDog]

No Blondie, what can drive us crazy are posts like this one

I'm sorry, Sandy and I just like to talk to each other like nobody else is here. Forgive us.

[RushDog]

LOL. They say that can make you crazy?:confused:

No, what made me crazy was the heat, and the lack of sex.

[sandy]

LOL. I challenge frank to have gnats flying around in his ears and NOT go crazy (crazier?):D

[Kat4Ever]

Hey Rush- you're a smart military guy. I have a question for you:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/0...copter-strike/

I can't figure it out.

Rush might be a 'smart military guy' but he wasn't in Intelligence (please no jokes).

Helicopters (even Apache's) are not impenetrable... they can be taken down by just rapid fire from even an AK-47 if they're flying low enough.

Most of the Apache's fly low and fast because it does make them harder targets for SAM's (surface-to-air missiles) which have the best chance of taking a helicopter down.

But surprisingly it makes them more of a target for your standard run of the mill RPG... although also not the best way to down one.

It's possible (although unlikely because that video wasn't of a US made Stinger) that they could have got their hands on some of those as well.

There are different copy cats of the Stinger out there... and obviously some SAMs or RPGs are better made than others. Whether they're from Iran, the Soviet Union or China as well.

It's very difficult to tell from that video what they were using.. but it is obviously of huge concern that they're either getting very lucky or very good at bringing our choppers down.

[sandy]

Well, the biggest non-surprise non-news event happened over the weekend. Barack Hussein Obama announced he is running for president. This after swearing he would NOT run. He's lying now. He was lying then. Just a big liar...:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-MYq2TZ73Q

[RushDog]

Well, the biggest non-surprise non-news event happened over the weekend. Barack Hussein Obama announced he is running for president. This after swearing he would NOT run. He's lying now. He was lying then. Just a big liar...:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-MYq2TZ73Q

He's wasting his time. He has no chance.

[sandy]

I agree. I think he is taking money away from Hildabeast. He is getting lots of Hollyweird support etc. But I really don't think he has a chance either. And I wonder if anyone will choose him as VP?

He was on 60 minutes last nite. He was smooth. Notice I didn't say "articulate." You can't say articulate without being called a racist.:mad:
PC bs is getting old...

I like how Australian Prime Minister John Howard got into it with Barack Hussein Obama. Howard said: "If I were running Al Qaeda in Iraq, I would put a circle around March 2008 and pray as many times as possible for a victory not only for Obama but also for the Democrats." Why March of 2008? Not only does John Howard have the whole thing figured out from all the way around the world, but he actually knows when Super Tuesday is. You may remember Obama said he would have us out of Iraq by March 08. If he won POTUS, he wouldn't be sworn in until January 09. Wonder how he would pull that off?:confused:

Obama came back with some weak response about how he takes the criticism as a compliment. That game is so old it's running on ESPN Classic. John Howard, who is running for a 5th term, also shot down the idea of his Australian troops leaving Iraq. "You either rat on the ally or you stay with the ally. If it's all right for us to go, it's all right for the Americans and the British to go, and if everybody goes, Iraq will descend into total civil war and there'll be a lot of bloodshed." Good to know not every world leader is a spineless weasel.

This one is real confusing for the media, too. Especially if Howard is re-elected, as expected.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/2/11/211225.shtml?s=ic

[RushDog]

I trust him as far as I can throw Rosie O' Donnell.

[sandy]

LOL! Ewwww.

[frank]

LOL! Ewwww.I'm still hangin with the "bama"

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I'm still hangin with the "bama"

Good for you Frankie! I am not making up my mind until the debates!!!

[sandy]

Barack Hussein Obama keeps putting his foot in his mouth. Now he is apologizing to the families of the troops killed. He said they died for nothing.
What an @ss-hole! Good riddance useless muslim piece of sh!t.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Barack Hussein Obama keeps putting his foot in his mouth. Now he is apologizing to the families of the troops killed. He said they died for nothing.
What an @ss-hole! Good riddance useless muslim piece of sh!t.

Obama put his foot in his mouth one time and he did apologize for this I am still waiting for the debates.....everyone deserves a chance.....

[sandy]

Well, now he is slamming Abe Lincoln. What a loser:(

"I cannot swallow whole the view of Lincoln as the Great Emancipator," Obama said. "As a law professor and civil rights lawyer and as an African-American, I am fully aware of his limited views on race. Anyone who actually reads the Emancipation Proclamation knows it was more a military document than a clarion call for justice."

This guy needs to shut up and go home. What an ungrateful idiot.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/6/27/112312.shtml

[sandy]

More info about Barack Hussein Obama:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1189687/posts

http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Obama_2.htm

Shocked? Me neither...

[sandy]

Just one more proving he's a muslim:

http://www.brookesnews.com/070801obama.html

"And Obama continues to dish lies at every opportunity (of which we will have more to say in later columns). Suffice it to say as early as 2004 I disclosed based on our original research in Kenya that Obama's presentation of his family history was somewhere between grossly disingenuous and a complete fiction. Obama came from Kenya's black colonial aristocracy and any livestock held by his family was a sign of wealth, not poverty. How's that for Barry flipping the truth, and the media sucking it up? Baaaaa.

Over and over again Obama has distorted and invented his family history. It is disgraceful. It prompted us to begin a CIA-style psychological profile of this deeply disturbed public figure that will be released during Obama Week.

In the meantime, the Washington Post, Chicago Tribune and lefties such as Mr. Alter love it and lap it up as Obama hides his past in plain sight. Once again the media are being lapdogs. The Post suggested Barry's "multicultural" background was a plus. On the contrary, Obama's complete and continuing confusion about his "culture" is what makes some people view him as a "Manchurian Candidate."

http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=722

Bottom line: "Barack Hussein Obama is still living in a dream world and still lying about his family history and his religious history. And no one, not anyone, is likely to stop the people of this country from being given access to basic facts before they are called to vote on the suitability of this master con artist for national office.

If you wonder why the print media and particularly newspapers cry they have no future, look at the way they have tried to cover-up Obama's life and the way they have sought to excoriate anyone telling the truth. Who wants to pay to read a pack of lies?"

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Just one more proving he's a muslim:

http://www.brookesnews.com/070801obama.html

"And Obama continues to dish lies at every opportunity (of which we will have more to say in later columns). Suffice it to say as early as 2004 I disclosed based on our original research in Kenya that Obama's presentation of his family history was somewhere between grossly disingenuous and a complete fiction. Obama came from Kenya's black colonial aristocracy and any livestock held by his family was a sign of wealth, not poverty. How's that for Barry flipping the truth, and the media sucking it up? Baaaaa.

Over and over again Obama has distorted and invented his family history. It is disgraceful. It prompted us to begin a CIA-style psychological profile of this deeply disturbed public figure that will be released during Obama Week.

In the meantime, the Washington Post, Chicago Tribune and lefties such as Mr. Alter love it and lap it up as Obama hides his past in plain sight. Once again the media are being lapdogs. The Post suggested Barry's "multicultural" background was a plus. On the contrary, Obama's complete and continuing confusion about his "culture" is what makes some people view him as a "Manchurian Candidate."

http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=722

Bottom line: "Barack Hussein Obama is still living in a dream world and still lying about his family history and his religious history. And no one, not anyone, is likely to stop the people of this country from being given access to basic facts before they are called to vote on the suitability of this master con artist for national office.

If you wonder why the print media and particularly newspapers cry they have no future, look at the way they have tried to cover-up Obama's life and the way they have sought to excoriate anyone telling the truth. Who wants to pay to read a pack of lies?"


I don't care if he is Muslim.......our Country is based on Freedom of Relgion, Freedom of Speech, and as long as he was born in this Country and he is of age he can run for President......It is a Free Country........

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Bush Budget Proposal Ignores Needs of Kids with Disabilities; Gifts and Talents
In releasing a budget proposal that eliminates, cuts, and freezes spending on programs that benefit students with disabilities and/or gifts and talents, President Bush sent a disappointing message to the special/gifted education communities on Monday.

IDEA programs that support children and youth with disabilities birth through age 21 as well programs that help carryout the goals of IDEA (such as personnel preparation), all fell victim to President Bush’s proposed budget elimination, decrease or level funding. Throughout his budget proposal, the President consistently disregards the growing population of children with disabilities – both in school settings, preschool and early intervention programs – and the increased funding this growth commands. In 1975, Congress mandated that the Federal government pay 40 percent of the extra cost of educating a student with a disability. For 31-years the Federal government has broken its promise to students with disabilities; currently the Federal government pays only 17.7 percent of the cost to fully fund IDEA. The President’s budget would further lessen the Federal commitment to 16.5 percentage.

Just two weeks after stressing the importance of global competitiveness in his State of the Union address, President Bush has proposed elimination of the only Federal program that supports students with gifts and talents, the Javits Gifted and Talented Education program. The Javits program -- a small program by federal standards -- has been providing essential resources for the education our nation’s most advanced learners. Countless numbers of students and educators have benefited from the practical resources the Javits program has provided, including helping teachers develop gifted education strategies, supporting research, and initiating projects that reach out to children from disadvantaged backgrounds who have been plagued by low expectations. By proposing to eliminate this program, President Bush limits the opportunities for students with gifts and talents across the country.

Meanwhile, President Bush included $300 million to expand “private school choice” programs, also known as vouchers. While President Bush chooses not to include any additional funding for special education and proposed elimination of the only Federal program to support gifted learners, he has simultaneously proposed funneling public funding into private schools. CEC has regularly spoken out on its opposition to vouchers, believing that public funding should be dedicated to the students and personnel in the public school system.

While the President’s budget does not support special and gifted education, it does include increases for Title I grants to local education agencies, Title I school improvement grants, maximum Pell Grant award, among other programs.

The President’s budget proposal marks the beginning of the Congressional appropriations process – a process by which members of Congress will accept, reject or alter the President’s budget to reflect the needs of their constituents. Full funding of IDEA and increased funding for the Javits program are top priorities of CEC. CEC is always actively involved in every step of the appropriations process by advocating on behalf of students with disabilities and/or gifts and talents. It is critical that members of Congress hear from their constituents of the impact under-funding IDEA and the Javits program has on students. To email your member of Congress on the latest issues concerning students with disabilities and/or gifts and talents visit CEC’s Legislative Action Center.

Education programs the President proposed to eliminate/under-fund, include:

Please Note: Due to unfinished FY 2007 appropriations legislation that funds education programs, funding levels for FY 2007 (October 1, 2006 - September 30, 2007) remain undecided. Last week, the House passed a Joint Resolution stating that most programs were to operate at FY 2006 levels with some exceptions. First, some programs received funding increases. Second, 60 programs were funded at below FY 2006 levels, however those programs have not been made public. The Senate is expected to consider the House Joint Resolution next week and subsequently the President will sign it into law.

This chart is based off of the most current information available -- a combination of the House Joint Resolution and funding levels published by the Department of Education. As Congress completes FY 2007 funding levels and proposes FY 2008 levels, CEC will keep its members informed through future Policy Updates.
FY 2008 President's Request FY 2007 Appropriation

IDEA Part B .................................$10,491.0 (-200 million).......................$10,691.9

Section 619 - Preschool Grants...........380.8............................ ..................... 380.8

IDEA Part C.......................................423.1..... .............................................423.1

IDEA Part D

--State Personnel Development..........0[1] (-50.1 million)..............................50.1

--Technical Assistance/Dissemination.......48.9.......................... ........................ 48.9

--Personnel Preparation.........................89.7.......... .........................................89.7

--Parent Information Centers..................25.7..................... ..............................25.7

--Technology and Media Services.......25.1(-13.3million)..............................38.4

Voc. Rehab. Transition Initiative...............2.8...................... ..............................2.8

Javits Grants for Gifted & Talented..........0 (-9.6 million)...............................9.6

Research in Special Education................71.8..................... ...............................71.8

NCLB.............................................. ..24.5 (+1.2 billion)............................23.3

Title I Grants to LEAs.........................13.9 (+ 1.2 billion)............................12.7

Title I School Improvement Grants......500 (+500 million)...............................0

TRIO ................................................82 8.2............................................... ..828.2

GEAR UP............................................303. 4................................................. .303.4

Vocational Education State Grants.............2.8............................ ........................2.8

Safe and Drug-Free Schools...............324.2 (- 201.2).................................525.4

Even Start............................................. .0 ............................................. 111.6

Elementary/Secondary School Counseling.0...................................... .........34.7



Parental Info and Resource Centers...........0............................... ................39.6

[TaylorHicksRocks]

i think it is time for a change........Pres. Bush does not seem to care at all baout our future........Children are our future........He is cutting education......to fund War!!!!!!

[Kat4Ever]

Well, now he is slamming Abe Lincoln. What a loser

"I cannot swallow whole the view of Lincoln as the Great Emancipator," Obama said. "As a law professor and civil rights lawyer and as an African-American, I am fully aware of his limited views on race. Anyone who actually reads the Emancipation Proclamation knows it was more a military document than a clarion call for justice."

This guy needs to shut up and go home. What an ungrateful idiot.

I'm sorry... and this will get me banned but you know what.. I hope it does and then I guess someone can call out the 'owners' of this site as one sided.

Because I get warned for saying stuff not nearly as damaging.. and racist.. and bigoted as someone or 2 other people say on this site and NOTHING is done about it.

You, Sandy, are a racist, unintelligent, bigoted pig that has NOTHING to add to this board.

ANYBODY that knows anything about history knows.. KNOWS.. that freeing the slaves was a bi-product of what Lincoln was trying to do.. his own family had owned slaves.

He NEVER came into office saying that he wanted to free slaves.. nor was it anything that he even really broached until the civil war really got out of hand and then it was more used as a way to hopefully hinder the 'South's' chances of victory.

You can not rewrite history to make your insane comments hold water.

Which, by the way, none of them do.

All you've done is attack people on this board of other religions.. nationalities.. beliefs... philosophies and political influence.

You're a sick person... a racist.. and a bigot.

Yes I've said that a few times but it bears repeating.

Who cares if Obama is truly a Muslim or his father was or his father before him??????

Well I suppose you and Rush and Lizzy.. and maybe more like you in this country.

I'm sorry.. should we kick them all out? Maybe throw out the Jews also? Let's get rid of all blacks as well.

In fact that's get rid of everyone that's an independent or a Democrat also since you're on record saying they're ALL traitors.

Wow, our founding fathers would be so proud.

You disgust me. And you should disgust everyone on this board.

The fact that you've made a couple of friends is despicable enough as it is.

This is what this world has come to. And this is partly why America and Americans are hated is because of beliefs like yours.

Why don't you go crawl back in the hole that you came from... you and people like you.

It would do the world a huge favor.

[Kat4Ever]

It is a Free Country........

Not if some people had their way........

[Kat4Ever]

Kim.

To make it simple the budget (as it's been presented) calls for reductions in something like 150 federal programs (such as education and assistance to the needy) while increasing the budget for the military and calling for an additional (don't quote me on this 'cause I'm ticked and not thinking straight) 100 billion (with a B) for Iraq.

Because we ALL know it's more important to win that war and rebuild Iraq than it is to actually send our own kids to school and get them educated... or rebuild or own 'war' ravaged cities.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Kim.

To make it simple the budget (as it's been presented) calls for reductions in something like 150 federal programs (such as education and assistance to the needy) while increasing the budget for the military and calling for an additional (don't quote me on this 'cause I'm ticked and not thinking straight) 100 billion (with a B) for Iraq.

Because we ALL know it's more important to win that war and rebuild Iraq than it is to actually send our own kids to school and get them educated... or rebuild or own 'war' ravaged cities.

This is a travesty!!!!! It's no wonder our kids grades are slipping in school.....This makes me ill!!! How on earth are we going to keep up? My son is above average for his age and that is due to me yes I will take the credit because I work with him........what about the children that don't have that luxury!!! What about no Child left behind! That is a farce!!!

[lizzyj]

Well, now he is slamming Abe Lincoln. What a loser

"I cannot swallow whole the view of Lincoln as the Great Emancipator," Obama said. "As a law professor and civil rights lawyer and as an African-American, I am fully aware of his limited views on race. Anyone who actually reads the Emancipation Proclamation knows it was more a military document than a clarion call for justice."

This guy needs to shut up and go home. What an ungrateful idiot.

I'm sorry... and this will get me banned but you know what.. I hope it does and then I guess someone can call out the 'owners' of this site as one sided.

Because I get warned for saying stuff not nearly as damaging.. and racist.. and bigoted as someone or 2 other people say on this site and NOTHING is done about it.

You, Sandy, are a racist, unintelligent, bigoted pig that has NOTHING to add to this board.

ANYBODY that knows anything about history knows.. KNOWS.. that freeing the slaves was a bi-product of what Lincoln was trying to do.. his own family had owned slaves.

He NEVER came into office saying that he wanted to free slaves.. nor was it anything that he even really broached until the civil war really got out of hand and then it was more used as a way to hopefully hinder the 'South's' chances of victory.

You can not rewrite history to make your insane comments hold water.

Which, by the way, none of them do.

All you've done is attack people on this board of other religions.. nationalities.. beliefs... philosophies and political influence.

You're a sick person... a racist.. and a bigot.

Yes I've said that a few times but it bears repeating.

Who cares if Obama is truly a Muslim or his father was or his father before him??????

Well I suppose you and Rush and Lizzy.. and maybe more like you in this country.
I'm sorry.. should we kick them all out? Maybe throw out the Jews also? Let's get rid of all blacks as well.

In fact that's get rid of everyone that's an independent or a Democrat also since you're on record saying they're ALL traitors.

Wow, our founding fathers would be so proud.

You disgust me. And you should disgust everyone on this board.

The fact that you've made a couple of friends is despicable enough as it is.

This is what this world has come to. And this is partly why America and Americans are hated is because of beliefs like yours.

Why don't you go crawl back in the hole that you came from... you and people like you.

It would do the world a huge favor.

Never speak for me, I will speak for myself

Thank you

[RushDog]

Never speak for me, I will speak for myself

Thank you

Gosh Liz, I didn't even read that post until you decided to quote it. Gee, thanks!LOL

I have a feeling that this thread will be locked by the end of the day. What do you think?

[sandy]

I am revealing the truth about a presidential candidate not personally attacking anyone on here.:)

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I am revealing the truth about a presidential candidate not personally attacking anyone on here.:)

I honestly don't think you are revealing anything.....I mean not anything I didn't already know! I am still going to wait for the debates......I don't care if he is Muslim or not.........I vote and base my opinion on my elected officials not on their religion but on what they plan to do with this great Country!! I want Education brought back!!!!! I want a President that cares about our Country and not others that we have no business being in........Where is Bin laden anyway? He was responsible for 9/11 if I am not mistaken wasn't he?

[sandy]

Read up on Islam and you will care that he is a muslim.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Read up on Islam and you will care that he is a muslim.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam

I don't care!!!!!! He is an American!!!!!

[sandy]

So were/are Jeffry Dahmer, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Dennis Rader, Jane Fonda, Rosie O'Donnell etc.... Being an American does NOT make one "good."

[TaylorHicksRocks]

So were/are Jeffry Dahmer, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Dennis Rader, Jane Fonda, Rosie O'Donnell etc.... Being an American does NOT make one "good."

None of them were running for President.........I like Rosie...:p

[sandy]

I give up. You want a muslim president? You want sharia here? Hope you like being covered from head to toe in a burka with only your eyes and hands showing. Hope you like being treated like a slave instead of a woman. :mad:

"I am a Moslem woman. I have no face. I have no identity. At age 9 I am considered an adult. Being an adult means that I have to adhere with Islamic laws as stated below.

I have to pray five times a day, fast one month out of the year and cover myself from head to toe in yards of black fabric. I am eligible to be married and can be punished for any wrong doing. I can be incarcerated and, if needed, executed for my crimes, even political ones.:mad:
"Men are the managers of the affairs of women because Allah has preferred men over women and women were expended of their Rights". The Koran 4:34

Islam believes and promotes only one relationship between male and female and that is the relation of lust.

I am not allowed to swim, ski, ride a bike, dance, learn to play musical instruments, practice gymnastics, or any other sport. I am not even permitted to watch men play sports, either in the stadium and/or on television.
I am not allowed to practice birth control or have abortions, even if carrying or having a child means I have to die.

My worth is half of a man. It doesn't matter who I am, how educated I am, and what earning potential I may have in my life. My worth is half of a man, any man. I cannot choose my mate and am not permitted to divorce him if things did not work out.
I have no right to choose the clothing I wear in public. I will get arrested, beaten, and sometimes even executed if I wear make-up, nylons, bright colors and specifically the color of red.

I have to meet all my husband's desires including the sexual ones. And if I refuse he has the right to deny me food, shelter, and all of life's necessities. I have to say yes every time he wants to have sex.

***I cannot get custody of my children. Even if their father dies. In the case of divorce or death I have to surrender my children to their father and/or his family.***:mad:

My husband can have four permanent wives and as many temporary wives as he wants. A man is allowed to sodomize his wife and she cannot complain.
They even mutilate, cut and sew my female sexual parts in order to control and regulate my sexual desire."...


I have studied Islam for 11 years. You think it's some kind of joke or religion of peace, I have scary news for you.:(

http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352725

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[RushDog]

What a beautiful religion. I can see it's appeal.

[sadie]

I am revealing the truth about a presidential candidate not personally attacking anyone on here.:)

Actually you have offended and intentionally stepped on toes for the
last couple of weeks. I don't appreciate it, and am aware of quite a few others that don't.

You have not revealed the truth about anyone! You have given your 'opinion' on some issues, nationalities, and religions, which have made you appear incrediably racist.

Another thing you have done is to repeatedly try to get a rise out of K4E, you and I both know that this true.

Well now you should be happy you got some 'attention' from him!
I just wonder with you being kind of new here if you got more than you expected because everyone that has been here a while knew you were going to be called out for such slanderous and hurtful remarks about fellow Americans, Muslims and their beliefs.

[sandy]

The only people I personally attack are evil muslims, illegal aliens, and criminals. I have never personally attacked anyone on here. Go study Islam for 11 years, then we can have an intellectual debate.

I have no interest in anything Kat has to say. I've had him on ignore for weeks. I'm not interested in reading his personal attacks against me.

Those "slanderous and hurtful" remarks about muslims are all true. Read the Koran and blogs of muslim women. Then we can discuss this.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[RushDog]

The only people I personally attack are evil muslims, illegal aliens, and criminals. I have never personally attacked anyone on here. Go study Islam for 11 years, then we can have an intellectual debate.

I have no interest in anything Kat has to say. I've had him on ignore for weeks. I'm not interested in reading his personal attacks against me.

Those "slanderous and hurtful" remarks about muslims are all true. Read the Koran and blogs of muslim women. Then we can discuss this.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Touche away!

[sandy]

Maybe we should start discussing Mitt Romney now? Some say he cannot win because he is a mormon. I like him personally. He's a decent guy. What do you think?

[sadie]

So were/are Jeffry Dahmer, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Dennis Rader, Jane Fonda, Rosie O'Donnell etc.... Being an American does NOT make one "good."


You are being so ridiculous with this!
What are you doing? Comparing all muslims to Jeffery Dahmer?

[RushDog]

You are being so ridiculous with this!
What are you doing? Comparing all muslims to Jeffery Dahmer?

No, Jeffrey liked to actually eat them after he be-headed them. He especially loved dark meat. Muslims aren't cannibals.

[Kat4Ever]

Never speak for me, I will speak for myself

Thank you

You're the one that backs Rush no matter what he says or does on this site.. or who he attacks or threatens....

and you've also said at least once that you wouldn't vote for Obama because he's Muslim and you can't imagine anyone else would either.

So I'm NOT speaking for you... I'm quoting you.

There's a difference.

If you don't want to be labeled a racist or a bigot.. then don't make posts that suggest you are one.

I'm just going by what you've said on the site.

[frank]

Maybe we should start discussing Mitt Romney now? Some say he cannot win because he is a mormon. I like him personally. He's a decent guy. What do you think?Exactly how many wives will he have?

OBTW he was pro choice abortion until the day after he became a candidate. after that he became pro life.......he's the Man!!!

[sandy]

I dunno. Ann Coulter says we have room in the Republican party for all forms of Christianity so who knows?

He also ran a state that ok'd homosexual marriage so I don't think the conservative right will embrace him. Who else is there? I know it's WAY too early to tell, but I'm underwhelmed by the Republicans choices so far.

I have to laugh at Edwards staff bloggers who slammed Catholics. They finally resigned.

[frank]

I dunno. Ann Coulter says we have room in the Republican party for all forms of Christianity so who knows?

He also ran a state that ok'd homosexual marriage so I don't think the conservative right will embrace him. Who else is there? I know it's WAY too early to tell, but I'm underwhelmed by the Republicans choices so far.

I have to laugh at Edwards staff bloggers who slammed Catholics. They finally resigned.
Hon,
Listen to what you are saying here.....Mitt's OK but Huh!!!?

[Kat4Ever]

There is a lesson here for all to learn:

You can't reason with the unreasonable.

Learn it, live it.

Life's too short to try and be politically correct or nice to people that don't deserve the time of day in my opinion.

[RushDog]

You're the one that backs Rush no matter what he says or does on this site.. or who he attacks or threatens....


That's because I'm "The Mack".:pimp:

and you've also said at least once that you wouldn't vote for Obama because he's Muslim and you can't imagine anyone else would either.



Just another thing that makes Lizzy so dang hot!:1luvu:

She's got brains to go with those beautiful looks of hers.

Oh, Mama!:love:

[Kat4Ever]

There's nothing brainy about defending a racist, bigoted, abusive womanizer.

[RushDog]

There's nothing brainy about defending a racist, bigoted, abusive womanizer.

You're calling me abusive? Aint that the pot calling the kettle African-American? How's that for political correctness?


And, the womanizer thing. Don't hate the playa, hate the game.:pimp:


If being anti-Islam and anti-gay makes me a bigot, then so be it. As far as I'm concerned, Muslims are as lost as blind homosexuals at a weenie roast.

Notice my political correctness for not using that naught "F" word for homosexual. Very diplomatic, I must say!

[lizzyj]

Never speak for me, I will speak for myself

Thank you

You're the one that backs Rush no matter what he says or does on this site.. or who he attacks or threatens....

and you've also said at least once that you wouldn't vote for Obama because he's Muslim and you can't imagine anyone else would either.

So I'm NOT speaking for you... I'm quoting you.

There's a difference.

If you don't want to be labeled a racist or a bigot.. then don't make posts that suggest you are one.

I'm just going by what you've said on the site.

Then you quote poorly.

I frankly don't care what you call me. You don't exist in my world. Think what you like, I'll still sleep good tonight.

I don't agree with everything Bush has done. Never said I did.

What I said is Americans might want an American President.

I would be scared to vote for a muslim president at this time due to wars and attacks on America. Does that make me a bigot? NO, it makes me smart! You may keep your head in the sand, But I'll look around and see whats going on.

But I don't know if Obama is Muslim. I will research him and make decisions based on what I find.

I happen to love all types of people. I have white friends, black friends, straight friends, gay friends, christian friends, and friends who don't practice any faith. People love me, they flock around me and want to be my friend. :p People feel love and kindness in my sprit. My patients love me, there families love me, many of the people on this board love me. So, I'm happy with me. Maybe you aren't happy with you, and thats why you attack. But I'm not weak, I'm strong. And if you think you can handle me, then JUMP.


Not that is any of your business, but I am a registered Democrat, always have been. However I don't vote democrat because of the libral views. But thats my American right and if you don't like it thats tuff. I vote the way God wants me too. Thats right I said it. I'll give you something to stew over. I want "In God we trust" on our dollar bills. I want prayer in school. This nation was founded under Christian views and frankly it should stay that way. The more this country turns away from God, the more he will turn away from our Country. That must really piss you off. But it's true, you may disagree, but you can't make it untrue.

Find me a Christian Democrat who fears the Lord and you'll find me in line to vote for him.


So quote me well, when you do.

"peace"

[Kat4Ever]

I happen to love all types of people. I have white friends, black friends, straight friends, gay friends, christian friends, and friends who don't practice any faith. People love me, they flock around me and want to be my friend. People feel love and kindness in my sprit. My patients love me, there families love me, many of the people on this board love me. So, I'm happy with me. Maybe you aren't happy with you, and thats why you attack. But I'm not weak, I'm strong. And if you think you can handle me, then JUMP.

Excuse me while I choke back my laughter......

[lizzyj]

Careful not to just choke

[Kat4Ever]

Your concern is noted.

I'm so glad you care.

I feel the love and kindness of your spirit flowing through the computer lines.............

[Kat4Ever]

by the way....

people that really have... wait I want to quote it correctly...

black friends, straight friends, gay friends, christian friends, and friends who don't practice any faith

don't attack people that don't practice faith (or allegedly don't practice faith)... and don't allow their friends to attack gay people or non Christians.. or Muslims or whomever...

without saying something against it.

Let's not pretend to be something we're not.

Be proud of who you are... even when you shouldn't be.

[lizzyj]

I do too, sometimes I get a jolt from all the love flowing through my fingers.

Mental note, maybe I don't have a static problem in my home causing me to shock people. Maybe it's the love dripping from my fingers and I'm just sending out a bundle of it when I touch people.

See, now I understand!

[Kat4Ever]

See, now I understand!

Being a nurse you should be well aware of the term: delusional

Now I'm not saying anything... I'm just here to help people come to terms with themselves.

[lizzyj]

by the way....

people that really have... wait I want to quote it correctly...

black friends, straight friends, gay friends, christian friends, and friends who don't practice any faith

don't attack people that don't practice faith (or allegedly don't practice faith)... and don't allow their friends to attack gay people or non Christians.. or Muslims or whomever...

without saying something against it.

Let's not pretend to be something we're not.

Be proud of who you are... even when you shouldn't be.

Why don't you ask someone who knows instead of judging me. You don't have a clue, as usual.

I comment about you because of your harsh debate style and your insistance to be the meanest person you can.

[Kat4Ever]

Why don't you ask someone who knows instead of judging me. You don't have a clue, as usual.

Ummm, wow. And you actually think I haven't??????

[lizzyj]

See, now I understand!

Being a nurse you should be well aware of the term: delusional

Now I'm not saying anything... I'm just here to help people come to terms with themselves.

Yea, and being an educated man you should know not to screw whith certain people.

But you haven't learned that yet.

[Kat4Ever]

your insistEnce to be the meanest person you can.

Why don't you ask someone that knows me if I could be meaner.....

[lizzyj]

Why don't you ask someone who knows instead of judging me. You don't have a clue, as usual.

Ummm, wow. And you actually think I haven't??????

So, you are either calling this person a liar or you are saying they support your views about me.

Am I correct?

Or are you saying you don't believe them?

which one is it?

[lizzyj]

your insistEnce to be the meanest person you can.

Why don't you ask someone that knows me if I could be meaner.....

When you run out of things to say, you always turn to old faithful don't you?

[Kat4Ever]

When you run out of things to say, you always turn to old faithful don't you?

I never run out of things to say.

I'm off the phone now..........

[lizzyj]

I hope you got the info you needed.

SEE I AM GREAT!!

[Kat4Ever]

Ummm yeah.

You're great.

(do you think she noticed the sarcasm??????)

[lizzyj]

Ummm yeah.

You're great.

(do you think she noticed the sarcasm??????)

then get the wax out of your ears, that should help.

[Kat4Ever]

truth can be very subjective.

sometimes you hear what you want to hear... and sometimes people tell you what they think you want to hear.

[lizzyj]

truth can be very subjective.

sometimes you hear what you want to hear... and sometimes people tell you what they think you want to hear.

Well those wouldn't be called the truth, those would be called lies. Either lying to yourself or lying to someone else.