2008

[IdolMe]

OK... what do you think about 2008??? Could we have our first female president. (http://www.hillary-rodham-clinton.org)

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I hope not!! I don't think we have any women ready to run this country as of yet. Not Hillary, or Condalica (SP?) none of them!

[aztecgoods]

I doubt its going to happen just yet. I know Hilllary wants desperately to run, but I'm not sure she will for her handlers (I think) have pretty much convinced her that she probably would not win. Her negative numbers are almost as high as her positives nation wide and they say that means that it is almost impossible to win a nationwide campaign. (Usually most politicians running for office initially have real low "negative" numbers)

But its hard to predict. She could also run just for the fund raising and all the cash she would get. I know her and Bill are big time into fund raising and massing more millions. But it depends on if she likes her current job more than running for pres and making more millions. Right now I kinda think she will stay in the Senate and may try and run in 2012, but she'll be pretty old by then. But hey, I've been TOTALLY wrong before about these things so anything's possible.

I also doubt that Condi will run, but I think she would make a greater prez than Hill. Hill and Bill are at their core socialists. (I know I've lived in Ark all my life, unfortunately.) (Arkansas is kind of like that place on "In the Mouth of Madness" there is a force beam at the borders that keeps you from leaving.)

[TaylorHicksRocks]

You have such a way with words.....But I agree.....

[lizzyj]

I'm not sure if it's a matter of America being ready for a female president. I think it's a matter of....is one qualified?

Condi.....maybe in time
Hill......ouch....no!

I will vote republican, male or female....that's just me.


ps....lucy, I suited up! teetee

[Kat4Ever]

I'm concerned Hillary is becoming too much of a 'centralist' for her own party.

As for Condi.. that will never happen.

But then again you always have 'them' people that will vote party lines no matter if it's good for the country or not.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I'm concerned Hillary is becoming too much of a 'centralist' for her own party.

As for Condi.. that will never happen.

But then again you always have 'them' people that will vote party lines no matter if it's good for the country or not.

You know what they say never say never....anything can happen..........

[lucy]

There is really only one woman in the US that has even a path started to the White House. HC.
My opinion is 'her path will be cut short' by another democrat.
But do I personally think America is ready for it....I don't know!
Am I ready for it......SURE!
Women may be more emotional than men but I think they can still be strong, determinded, and great leaders.
I certainly would not discount a candidate simply for being a woman.
I will admit that Hillary is not for me, though.


btw lj, good move on the suit!!
My suit is at the cleaners, I hope I will be ok though!

[IdolMe]

There is really only one woman in the US that has even a path started to the White House. HC.
My opinion is 'her path will be cut short' by another democrat.
But do I personally think America is ready for it....I don't know!
Am I ready for it......SURE!


I think American is ready for it... I'm not a democrat but I do feel she would make a decent Pres.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I think American is ready for it... I'm not a democrat but I do feel she would make a decent Pres.

I am a Democrat but I am not so sure I am ready for Hillary as Pres. I don't always vote party lines I like to vote for the person. Usually when it comes to President especially the last two elections........

[lizzyj]

I wonder, how many of you think that Hillary made a lot of the decisions while Clinton was in office? I remember hearing one time that their daughter was in school and one of the parents needed to be called. She told them to call her daddy because her mother was to busy. Heck...He was only the President! I think she probably had much more influence over him than we all know.

That can also hold true for other people. I wonder how many men are driven by what the "little woman" at home tells them. I am willing to bet that a lot of women wear the pants in the family. Who wears the pants in your family?

Unfortunately, in my home....my husband wears the pants...everyday. But I believe that's the way it should be. Don't get me wrong, I get my way, even when he doesn't realize it.



Lucy,
Should I suit up? teetee

[lizzyj]

also,

Equal partners doesn't exist. I think people like to say it, but in the end, after all the talking is done, one person makes the call.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

That was the way it was when I was married....My husband always made the decisions. He would get to by saying why don't you ever agree with me?:)

[lizzyj]

Sometimes I think men are more sensitive than women. I think they just hide it better. A woman will usually tell you when she is hurt, but a man doesn't always.

My husband is VERY tender-hearted. He never says it, but I can read his eyes.

[MusicLover]

I think Hillary would be a good pres... And America is probably ready for the change. The latese Gallop (sp?) Polls show Hillary leading the pack for Pres '08. We shall see, I guess. I don't vote for political parties; I vote for the best person. Just me...

[lucy]

Lucy,
Should I suit up? teetee

Lj, I think you might be ok.
Don't get me wrong there is plenty of material there!! LOLOLOL
Just wear your light weight suit, I don't think you will need the heavy weight, though.
:p

[RushDog]

I think Meryl Streep would be a great president! Oh, I'm sorry. I was watching "The Manchurian Candidate" this afternoon. My bad.

[lizzyj]

Well she ALWAYS plays a good part. Sometimes a good President is one who does as he is told!

Nice choice!!!

[RushDog]

That can also hold true for other people. I wonder how many men are driven by what the "little woman" at home tells them. I am willing to bet that a lot of women wear the pants in the family. Who wears the pants in your family?


I tell my ol' lady, "It's my way or the highway, baby!" You're gonna have to toe the mark, and walk the line!

[Kat4Ever]

No, Lizzy you're probably correct for the majority of homes in America.

I know that generally I make most of the decisions around the house, but it's usually after some 'discussion' with my wife... but in the end she generally leaves it to me and I'm always the 'yes or no' guy.

I'm not sure how many stories I would trust about when Clinton and Clinton were in office... but I do know that Hillary did have her hands in a lot of policy... so much so that towards the end even some Democrats were sort of upset that she was having so much to say because she was so disliked by Republicans.

That's going to be the problem with her running.

Just like Bill there is a HARDCORE dislike of her amongst some Republicans which will just not consider her a viable candidate at all... although honestly I'm not sure that those same Republicans would ever consider a Democrat anyway so it may not matter.

I don't understand those people to be honest... how you can just look at a candidate based on party affiliation and decide that's who you want without knowing the facts behind their candidacy... but that's life I suppose.

[lizzyj]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I vote alot on "morals" Now, if that should shift to Democrats, then I will shift as well.

Actually, I think I am still registered as Democrat. Just never voted that way.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

No, Lizzy you're probably correct for the majority of homes in America.

I know that generally I make most of the decisions around the house, but it's usually after some 'discussion' with my wife... but in the end she generally leaves it to me and I'm always the 'yes or no' guy.

I'm not sure how many stories I would trust about when Clinton and Clinton were in office... but I do know that Hillary did have her hands in a lot of policy... so much so that towards the end even some Democrats were sort of upset that she was having so much to say because she was so disliked by Republicans.

That's going to be the problem with her running.

Just like Bill there is a HARDCORE dislike of her amongst some Republicans which will just not consider her a viable candidate at all... although honestly I'm not sure that those same Republicans would ever consider a Democrat anyway so it may not matter.

I don't understand those people to be honest... how you can just look at a candidate based on party affiliation and decide that's who you want without knowing the facts behind their candidacy... but that's life I suppose.

This one is going to turn ugly to. Here we go talking politics....Just let me say I warned y'all..

[Kat4Ever]

Nobody is getting ugly.. we were actually agreeing on something she said.

[MusicLover]

Hillary... you either love her, hate her, or know nothing about her. :) I'm not registered under any party affiliation. I vote for people, not parties.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Believe me it will turn ugly.......

[Kat4Ever]

Although...... :)

I don't understand the 'morals' vote.

How can you possibly know that one person is more moral than another.

I refuse to believe that George Bush is moral in the first place since he's a liar and has now 'caused' the death of thousands of American soldiers in a personal vendetta....

but that probably is the source of an arguement.

But most certainly it's not like John Kerry wasn't a moral person.... he just didn't wear his politics on his sleeve... much like NO politician should in my opinion.

[MusicLover]

Nobody is getting ugly.. we were actually agreeing on something she said.

For this, I am eternally grateful! Ahhh, it's so nice when people get along!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

The Religion discussion started out tame enough but that turned ugly...just wait and see........

[lizzyj]

Nobody is getting ugly.. we were actually agreeing on something she said.

now see, this is a land mark day!

I feel really good about this! :awink:

[MusicLover]

Although...... :)

I don't understand the 'morals' vote.

How can you possibly know that one person is more moral than another.

I refuse to believe that George Bush is moral in the first place since he's a liar and has now 'caused' the death of thousands of American soldiers in a personal vendetta....

but that probably is the source of an arguement.

But most certainly it's not like John Kerry wasn't a moral person.... he just didn't wear his politics on his sleeve... much like NO politician should in my opinion.


So in your opinion, election '04 was a pick of the better of two evils? Not being B!tchy, just curious... 'cause that's kind of how I saw it, too, if that's what you meant...

[MusicLover]

now see, this is a land mark day!

I feel really good about this! :awink:

As do I! :)

[Kat4Ever]

Ahhh, it's so nice when people get along!

Actually usually it's quite boring.

I'm not sure why so many people here think that everyone should think and act exactly alike.

And if people disagree.. then they disagree.. and if they vehemently disagree.. well that's life.

Perhaps some people shouldn't have such thin skin.

Of course it's not my sight and I don't have that control... but I will never understand the 'banning' or behind the scenes stuff that happens.

Last I checked this was still America and despite this being a website run by someone.. it's humors me that we're all so concerned about everyone acting as one.....

that's a very Republican concept....

:)

[lizzyj]

You never really know how moral someone is, I can only go by what their stand is on certain views and hope for honesty.

However, anyone can lie and deceive you, I know this.

[lizzyj]

that's a very Republican concept....
:)

not mine...........I can't be lumped into that group.

teetee

[Kat4Ever]

So in your opinion, election '04 was a pick of the better of two evils? Not being B!tchy, just curious... 'cause that's kind of how I saw it, too, if that's what you meant...

Yes, actually it was.

By NO means do I think that John Kerry was a great candidate... but in MY opinion he was the lesser of 2 evils.

Well let's put it this way... we had the evil we knew... which in my opinion was really really bad... Bush obviously.

And then we had the evil we didn't really know.... Kerry.

But I've said it before... the Republican spin machine did their job. Karl Rove won that election and he won it by getting the evangelistic vote out... and out in huge numbers by 'spinning' it that Bush was the 'moral' candidate... and that basically a vote for Kerry was voting against religion.

Well that and also the 'fear factor' that we were all going to die if we voted Democrat.

And don't fool yourself into thinking that wasn't put out there.

It was and it was very effective.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Actually usually it's quite boring.

I'm not sure why so many people here think that everyone should think and act exactly alike.

And if people disagree.. then they disagree.. and if they vehemently disagree.. well that's life.

Perhaps some people shouldn't have such thin skin.

Of course it's not my sight and I don't have that control... but I will never understand the 'banning' or behind the scenes stuff that happens.

Last I checked this was still America and despite this being a website run by someone.. it's humors me that we're all so concerned about everyone acting as one.....

that's a very Republican concept....

:)


Well I just don't like it when things get mean and nasty and threads are locked. We don't have to get out of control because we are not a bunch of 5 year olds. I refuse to debate or talk about politics. I will not have my temper flared....

[MusicLover]

Well, I don't think everyone should act and think the same. To the contrary, actually. Of course we are all different, that's what makes our country what it is. What's beautiful is when people of all beliefs and affiliations can respect those differences and embrace those differences and realize that it's what makes America America.

[MusicLover]

Yes, actually it was.

By NO means do I think that John Kerry was a great candidate... but in MY opinion he was the lesser of 2 evils.

Well let's put it this way... we had the evil we knew... which in my opinion was really really bad... Bush obviously.

And then we had the evil we didn't really know.... Kerry.

But I've said it before... the Republican spin machine did their job. Karl Rove won that election and he won it by getting the evangelistic vote out... and out in huge numbers by 'spinning' it that Bush was the 'moral' candidate... and that basically a vote for Kerry was voting against religion.

Well that and also the 'fear factor' that we were all going to die if we voted Democrat.

And don't fool yourself into thinking that wasn't put out there.

It was and it was very effective.


I voted Kerry in '04 because Bush stands for a lot of things I don't believe in. Religion excluded.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I voted Kerry in '04 because Bush stands for a lot of things I don't believe in. Religion excluded.

I also voted Kerry in 04'....I never voted for Bush! But i vote for the person when it comes to President and not party lines.....

[Kat4Ever]

I don't personally see where religion should play out in politics anyway.

It's highly doubtful you'll ever have a candidate get that far that doesn't have some sort of religious belief... so why should it matter.

I mean if it came down to someone that was religious.. but a bad person...

compared to someone that wasn't necessarily religious but a good person that would do good things for the country it scares me that a good majority of the evangelistic vote would vote for candidate A because he's religious.

that was the reason they voted for Bush unfortunately.

And I'm with you on this one ML... Bush stands for an awful lot that should have absolutely scared most of the people in this country...

but unfortunately it didn't.

[lizzyj]

Now I don't vote on religion. Never have.

[Kat4Ever]

I will not have my temper flared....

Well, THR, there's a difference between having your 'temper flared' and showing passion about a topic (something that I wish more of America did, especially when it comes to politics)....

or having your 'temper flared' and just being a jerk and arguing or fighting just to argue and fight.

Unfortunately over a message board sometimes it's hard to distinguish between the 2... but there are absolute differences.

[MusicLover]

Do you know that Oprah is actually considering running in '08? I was reading an AP report on that earlier. Can you even imagine that?

[Kat4Ever]

Now I don't vote on religion. Never have.

Now before THR thinks we're getting into it... I never said that you did.

I was saying that a lot of people in the last election did.

In fact in Ohio alone (a state that I can't believe the Democrats lost because of the absolutely horrid economy there) the polls showed that something like 87% of the evangelistic vote went to Bush (in record numbers from past elections) and the #1 reason for voting for Bush was that he was moral....

just sad in my book.

[lizzyj]

oh, I know you didn't. I was just saying that I don't do that. I don't think it is fair.

You don't have to be a Christian to be moral.

[MusicLover]

I'd rather have a moral, strong, non-religious leader than a Christian that has no idea how to run a country. Again, NOT THAT A CHRISTIAN CANDIDATE COULDN'T BE A STRONG LEADER. Just to clarify that... :)

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Do you know that Oprah is actually considering running in '08? I was reading an AP report on that earlier. Can you even imagine that?

I like Oprah. I think I would maybe vote for her........before Hillary for sure!

[RushDog]

Oprah, the man-hater herself. I think Jerry Springer would be much better.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Oprah, the man-hater herself. I think Jerry Springer would be much better.

Oprah is a man-hater? I never could tell that from watching her shows....anyway I am off to Sunday Sevices!

[lizzyj]

I don't like Oprah, the sound of her voice gives me a headache!

[RushDog]

Oprah is a man-hater? I never could tell that from watching her shows....anyway I am off to Sunday Sevices!

Yeah, she hates us. The only guy she likes is Dr. Phil. And, that's because he's a suck-up. I don't even know if she likes Steadman anymore. I heard her and Roger Ebert used to date, back in the day. What an interesting pair.

[MusicLover]

Maybe if she's president, she'll give all Americans new cars as gifts. :D

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Maybe if she's president, she'll give all Americans new cars as gifts. :D

Yeah new cars!!! I like that idea. Opera does like to give things away!!!!:)

[MusicLover]

LOL! America could be bought off with new cars. :rolleyes:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

LOL! America could be bought off with new cars. :rolleyes:

That would be funny I guess it would not take much!!!!!

[RushDog]

Surprise, surprise. Falwell isn't a fan of Hillary's.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/24/falwell.devil.ap/index.html

[lizzyj]

Interesting add.

But I noticed at the bottom of the page there was a story where a woman killed someones children and put them in the washer and dryer, after she killed the mother and her unborn fetus.

What is the world coming to?

That sickens me.

[RushDog]

Interesting add.

But I noticed at the bottom of the page there was a story where a woman killed someones children and put them in the washer and dryer, after she killed the mother and her unborn fetus.

What is the world coming to?

That sickens me.

Yeah, that is pretty sick. I guess the two women used to be friends.

[lizzyj]

Really,

I'm going to have to read that whole story.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Surprise, surprise. Falwell isn't a fan of Hillary's.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/24/falwell.devil.ap/index.html

I am not surprised.

[RushDog]

I am not surprised.

Pleasantly or unpleasantly?

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Pleasantly or unpleasantly?

Upon reading the article would say it is because she is a woman trying to tackle the war on terrorism! I just don't think that we as a country are ready for that. What ever happenned to Colin Powell. Now that is a man I would vote for. We should have somebody in office that has actually been in a war if not at least the military. Also her where she stands on abortion probably has something to with how the Reverand feels about her........but that is just my opinion.

[MusicLover]

I agree that Colin Powell would be a darn good candidate for President. I think it's shameful how he got thrown under the bus for all the Administration's mistakes.

[aztecgoods]

The Clintons just down right scare me. Hillary not as much as Bill, but Hill to me is solely interested in POWER for powers sake. They are into power like some people are into drugs or rocknroll, or other things. WHY else would she move from Ark. to NY to run for senate? Because a senator from NY has much more influence (Theoretically) than one from a hick state like Ark. AND her peeps were telling her she could win there.

Living in Ark. I've heard tons of stories about them that have never really gotten out in the mainstream public. Many stories were ignored by the media that has always loved the Clintons. There are lots of stories of them intimidating people that they deem a threat. Getting the state police to pull people over, threaten them, all kinds of stuff. I guess most have heard the Juanita Broderick rape story by now, which I personally believe, mainly because she never tried to make her story public, but was Jane Doe 5 for the longest time (witness in Paula Jones trial). Other reporters got her story and she only spoke about it after it was released, not by her. She didn't want the public knowing it.

Hillary was supposedly in charge of the attack squad in the first campaign to go after people like Paula and Gennifer Flowers and try and intimidate them. Did anyone see that movie Primary Colors? A lot of that was true, but changed slightly, and that was written by a "Clinton supporter." I could go on and on and on about the stories, I know some probably are not true, but there are enough that are to make me afraid of them.

[X1TX]

So in your opinion, election '04 was a pick of the better of two evils? Not being B!tchy, just curious... 'cause that's kind of how I saw it, too, if that's what you meant...

That's pretty much the way I saw it. I did vote for GWB, but I can't say by any means I was enthusiastic about doing so.

And I do agree that the US is ready for a female president, I don't see a realistic one out there I would vote for at this time. I don't see Condi running and I'm not sure I'd vote for her anyway. Perhaps W will put forth Harriett Myers to run in '08?

Hillary wants to nationalize health care in this country. Please, tell me one thing the government does better than the private sector? How, pray tell, do you lower the price of medical care by restricting the number of doctors (a central part of "Hillary Care")? Ever hear of 'supply and demand'? The whole "Hillary Care" thing was Socialism in excess.

Maybe Ann Coulter would run. Her sarcasm would be great at White House press conferences. Though I doubt she'd look good in a 'fro.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

The Clintons just down right scare me. Hillary not as much as Bill, but Hill to me is solely interested in POWER for powers sake. They are into power like some people are into drugs or rocknroll, or other things. WHY else would she move from Ark. to NY to run for senate? Because a senator from NY has much more influence (Theoretically) than one from a hick state like Ark. AND her peeps were telling her she could win there.

Living in Ark. I've heard tons of stories about them that have never really gotten out in the mainstream public. Many stories were ignored by the media that has always loved the Clintons. There are lots of stories of them intimidating people that they deem a threat. Getting the state police to pull people over, threaten them, all kinds of stuff. I guess most have heard the Juanita Broderick rape story by now, which I personally believe, mainly because she never tried to make her story public, but was Jane Doe 5 for the longest time (witness in Paula Jones trial). Other reporters got her story and she only spoke about it after it was released, not by her. She didn't want the public knowing it.

Hillary was supposedly in charge of the attack squad in the first campaign to go after people like Paula and Gennifer Flowers and try and intimidate them. Did anyone see that movie Primary Colors? A lot of that was true, but changed slightly, and that was written by a "Clinton supporter." I could go on and on and on about the stories, I know some probably are not true, but there are enough that are to make me afraid of them.

I don't trust the Clinton's and never have. I asked my sister yeasterday if she would vote for Hillary and she said yes I told her I wouldn't and she asked me why not. I said she has already been President and she laughed and siad your prob. right. I think Hill had alot of influence over Her hubby. The decisions he made. Some were good. But there was way too much cover up. Nixon was almost impeached for things he did and it was not nearly as bad as the Clintons.....It is a disgrace to our country.

[X1TX]

Last I checked this was still America and despite this being a website run by someone.. it's humors me that we're all so concerned about everyone acting as one.....

that's a very Republican concept....

:)

Actually, it comes from both sides. Political Correctness is, if nothing else, an attempt to silence dissent. In the political arena I'd actually prefer an (intellectually honest) argument. Either that or a good caning in on the House floor......:eek:

[Kat4Ever]

Hillary wants to nationalize health care in this country. Please, tell me one thing the government does better than the private sector? How, pray tell, do you lower the price of medical care by restricting the number of doctors (a central part of "Hillary Care")? Ever hear of 'supply and demand'? The whole "Hillary Care" thing was Socialism in excess.

There's a reason why most of the rest of the free world has socialized health care... it works.

It's not perfect but would you rather keep paying ridiculous prices for your medicines and health care.. or would you rather everyone that needs a doctor can get a doctor?

The decisions he made. Some were good. But there was way too much cover up. Nixon was almost impeached for things he did and it was not nearly as bad as the Clintons.....It is a disgrace to our country.

Someone please name for me ONE President that didn't have some sort of cover up or problem while in the oval office?

Even some of the alleged greats had their own problems.. that's politics unfortunately.

The question is does the good outweigh the supposed bad.

There is a reason why Bill Clinton left the office of the Presidency with a higher rating than any previous President ever had that had a 2nd term in office... and why his favorable rating continues to shatter the favorable rating of George Bush... and why so many people wish that his wife would seek office.

As much as a small portion of the public (hardcore Republicans because they were jealous and upset over his likeability) despises him... he was INCREDIBLY well respected as President and made more good things happen than any President in recent memory... and could have done much more if he didn't have to put up with a Republican congress.

But it's like everything else... there's a small portion of the population that is Republican and will never change their mind... just like there's a small portion of the population that is Democrat and will never change their mind... and unfortunately a large portion of the population that is neither and doesn't vote because they don't think it matters.

It's the people that fall in the middle.. the people that watch the news, read the paper, get the magazines and pay attention to what is REALLY happening out there that are the 'smart' ones in my opinion. And hopefully there's more and more of them each year that see what is really happening and they will be the ones that decide our fate in the next election.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

There's a reason why most of the rest of the free world has socialized health care... it works.

It's not perfect but would you rather keep paying ridiculous prices for your medicines and health care.. or would you rather everyone that needs a doctor can get a doctor?



Someone please name for me ONE President that didn't have some sort of cover up or problem while in the oval office?

Even some of the alleged greats had their own problems.. that's politics unfortunately.

The question is does the good outweigh the supposed bad.

There is a reason why Bill Clinton left the office of the Presidency with a higher rating than any previous President ever had that had a 2nd term in office... and why his favorable rating continues to shatter the favorable rating of George Bush... and why so many people wish that his wife would seek office.

As much as a small portion of the public (hardcore Republicans because they were jealous and upset over his likeability) despises him... he was INCREDIBLY well respected as President and made more good things happen than any President in recent memory... and could have done much more if he didn't have to put up with a Republican congress.

But it's like everything else... there's a small portion of the population that is Republican and will never change their mind... just like there's a small portion of the population that is Democrat and will never change their mind... and unfortunately a large portion of the population that is neither and doesn't vote because they don't think it matters.

It's the people that fall in the middle.. the people that watch the news, read the paper, get the magazines and pay attention to what is REALLY happening out there that are the 'smart' ones in my opinion. And hopefully there's more and more of them each year that see what is really happening and they will be the ones that decide our fate in the next election.

I am neither Repulican nor Democrat.However I do not condone a President Lying before he is elected and continue to do so while he is in office. This is why I will not vote for Hillary either way Bill or Hillary whoever wast the boss will be the boss again. I do not like Bush JR. I liked Bush SR. I vote for the man not the party!

[MusicLover]

I think Clinton was a good President. Sure, he made some mistakes in his personal life, but he did his job well. As for Hillary, I respect her for keeping her head high throughout the whole "Monica" fiasco, and actually stepping up through her adversity to become the Governor. They mended their marriage and moved on. Most high-profile (think celebrity) couples that have their mistakes plastered on the cover of all the newspapers, magazines, and tabloids - they don't stick together, at least not for too long. Strength in spite of adversity is a good quality in my book.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I am thinking back to when he was running and he said he never smoked pot and then he said he did but he never inhaled. I have known alot of people who smoked pot and all of them inhaled. Including my parents....Lie. Jennifer Flowers another Lie. I just don't trust them and they were our first family, how many attacks on our country happened while he was in office and he just let them continue.......

[Kat4Ever]

how many attacks on our country happened while he was in office and he just let them continue.......

Ummmmmm... none?

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Ummmmmm... none?

None? Were you asleep? What about the USS Cole? The Embassy's? I can't think of the country but they made a movie about it. Black Hawk Down! You Must have been asleep. I know I was wide awake.........Those were terroists attacks.....I don't know what you call them......

[RushDog]

None? Were you asleep? What about the USS Cole? The Embassy's? I can't think of the country but they made a movie about it. Black Hawk Down! You Must have been asleep. I know I was wide awake.........Those were terroists attacks.....I don't know what you call them......

I think he meant within our borders. Those attacks were abroad. But, you are right, those attacks did happen during the Clinton era.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I think he meant within our borders. Those attacks were abroad. But, you are right, those attacks did happen during the Clinton era.

I know what he meant. But I had said on our country. I never said in our country. So I wanted to point that out to K4E. Thanks Rush!

[X1TX]

I think he meant within our borders. Those attacks were abroad. But, you are right, those attacks did happen during the Clinton era.

Actually, an overseas embassy is considered sovereign US territory. So those were attacks directly on the US (as was the takeover in Teheran during the Carter administration). The Cole is also considered US territory as well.

[RushDog]

Actually, an overseas embassy is considered sovereign US territory. So those were attacks directly on the US (as was the takeover in Teheran during the Carter administration). The Cole is also considered US territory as well.

Good point. Those places would be just like any military base overseas.

[aztecgoods]

Dont forget about Oklahoma City, it may have been domestic terrorists of another vein, but it should have been caught nonetheless.

The main Clinton failure (well there are tons) but related to terror, is his utter failure to take it seriously. He refused to give permission to kill bin Laden when our guys on the ground literally had him in their sites. We were offered him by Pakistan I think or someone at one time, he refused. The Richard Clark book that he himself cites as the authority on the subject is full of criticism of Clinton on this very issue and how he basically refused to lift a finger. Now he gets on TV over the weekend and claims he was "obsessed" with terror. WHAT A FREAKING JOKE!

Clinton was the biggest joke president we have ever had, I fail to this day to see what anyone sees positive in him. Can anyone name 3 laws that he even passed that weren't initiated by the 94 Republicans in the house. I'll give you one the 1992 stimulas package that was the biggest tax increase in US history. And he pushed hard for htat after promising int he campaign "middle class tax cuts." Clinton is a pathological lier, he lies practically everytime he speaks. What anyone sees as positive in that I just don't understand. I guess its the same as why peeps in Germany let Hitler take over. (Not that Clinton is on the same level as Hitler) but you know what I mean. Clinton was just a joke and a lier. He is kinda like the guy from saturday night live but that actually is elected president. "Terror, yeah, I invented the war on terror, yeah, I invented it, thats the ticket!!" "Juanita Broderick raped me, I didn't rape her, yeah thats the ticket."

I love how the mainstream news media has essentially ignored the whole Juanita Broderick rape story, when if that would have been about Bush, they would still be beating the drums to this day until they ran him out of office. But oh i forgot, we arent allowed to critisize his "personal" lifestyle.

[lizzyj]

suit Up Peter, Don't Forget The Goggles And Mouth Piece....teetee

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Dont forget about Oklahoma City, it may have been domestic terrorists of another vein, but it should have been caught nonetheless.

The main Clinton failure (well there are tons) but related to terror, is his utter failure to take it seriously. He refused to give permission to kill bin Laden when our guys on the ground literally had him in their sites. We were offered him by Pakistan I think or someone at one time, he refused. The Richard Clark book that he himself cites as the authority on the subject is full of criticism of Clinton on this very issue and how he basically refused to lift a finger. Now he gets on TV over the weekend and claims he was "obsessed" with terror. WHAT A FREAKING JOKE!

Clinton was the biggest joke president we have ever had, I fail to this day to see what anyone sees positive in him. Can anyone name 3 laws that he even passed that weren't initiated by the 94 Republicans in the house. I'll give you one the 1992 stimulas package that was the biggest tax increase in US history. And he pushed hard for htat after promising int he campaign "middle class tax cuts." Clinton is a pathological lier, he lies practically everytime he speaks. What anyone sees as positive in that I just don't understand. I guess its the same as why peeps in Germany let Hitler take over. (Not that Clinton is on the same level as Hitler) but you know what I mean. Clinton was just a joke and a lier. He is kinda like the guy from saturday night live but that actually is elected president. "Terror, yeah, I invented the war on terror, yeah, I invented it, thats the ticket!!" "Juanita Broderick raped me, I didn't rape her, yeah thats the ticket."

I love how the mainstream news media has essentially ignored the whole Juanita Broderick rape story, when if that would have been about Bush, they would still be beating the drums to this day until they ran him out of office. But oh i forgot, we arent allowed to critisize his "personal" lifestyle.

Thank you so much Aztec..Sometimes my MS makes it difficult for me to express what i want to get across! You are awesome!! You rock!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Actually, an overseas embassy is considered sovereign US territory. So those were attacks directly on the US (as was the takeover in Teheran during the Carter administration). The Cole is also considered US territory as well.

That is so true. Thank you for poniting this out to all of us!!!

[RushDog]

Well, I did manage to visit the Clinton library, museum, and massage parlor in Little Rock. He does have good taste in music. His CD collection looked alot like mine.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Well, I did manage to visit the Clinton library, museum, and massage parlor in Little Rock. He does have good taste in music. His CD collection looked alot like mine.

Did you get a massage Rush Doggy? Lmao you are too funny..What are we going to do with you?:p

[RushDog]

Did you get a massage Rush Doggy? Lmao you are too funny..What are we going to do with you?:p

No, unfortunately I was with the family, and I was still in my Bruce Wayne mode. It wasn't night time, so I wasn't Batman yet.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

No, unfortunately I was with the family, and I was still in my Bruce Wayne mode. It wasn't night time, so I wasn't Batman yet.

Well maybe next time......I think that it is cool that you went to see the Clinton Library!

[RushDog]

Well maybe next time......I think that it is cool that you went to see the Clinton Library!

You know what's funny? It looks like a big ol' silver mobile home from the outside. Gives it that nice trashy effect.

[lizzyj]

You know what's funny? It looks like a big ol' silver mobile home from the outside. Gives it that nice trashy effect.

Oh, Is Bill Clinton a Country Bumpkin? :yelrotflm

[RushDog]

Oh, Is Bill Clinton a Country Bumpkin? :yelrotflm

"...People who forgot about poor white trash, if that aint country, I'll kiss your a$$..."

David Allan Coe

[lizzyj]

Now that's beer drinkin music!

[RushDog]

Now that's beer drinkin music!

"....Just a big ol' brew, and a little ol' you!":1luvu:

[lizzyj]

"....Just a big ol' brew, and a little ol' you!":1luvu:

I'm blushing! :wink:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

You know what's funny? It looks like a big ol' silver mobile home from the outside. Gives it that nice trashy effect.

Wow must be the least amount of money invested in his library!!!!

[X1TX]

Well, I did manage to visit the Clinton library, museum, and massage parlor in Little Rock. He does have good taste in music. His CD collection looked alot like mine.

Did you get to drive the El Camino or was it up on blocks?

[RushDog]

Did you get to drive the El Camino or was it up on blocks?

No, it wasn't available. Billy Bob Thrornton was borrowing it.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

No, it wasn't available. Billy Bob Thrornton was borrowing it.

Ah shucks that's too bad!!!:mecry:

[X1TX]

http://www.rudypark.com/editorialcartoons/topics/international/balkans_990428troops.gif

[Kat4Ever]

Let me try this again.

The direct quote was:

how many attacks on our country happened while he was in office and he just let them continue.......

Clinton didn't let any of them 'continue'. There were responses for each and every attack or threat. Whether they worked or not.

I'm confused how Republicans can attack Clinton on this when he was closer to getting Bin Laden than Bush has EVER been... but yet they continue to let Bush slide on this 'war'.

And Clinton said himself that at the time we didn't have enough to take him... which is true. There was nothing we could hold him on... and this is still America and we still do have laws about what we can and can't do on international soil.

But in typical Republican fashion EVERYTHING is spun.

Hannity and Colmes had Ann Coulture on and in typical Ann Coulture style was attacking everything 'liberal'... and Colmes asked her a question about why she doesn't make the same attacks on Bush and his comments about Bin Laden (wanted dead or alive, don't even think about him, wouldn't matter much now if we got him)... DIRECT quotes he's said in the past 5 years... and she said that she didn't consider that 'wavering' on his stance... but obviously wouldn't get into it.

That's typical Republican spin.

Why is it that the Clinton administration spent SO much time trying to dig up dirt of Al Quaida... and when they turned over the government spent so much time briefing the Bush administration on assumed threats from that terrorist cell... and then for many months afterwards, NOT ONE THING was done about it?

Intelligence reports were put aside... intelligence analysts were fired because Bush didn't like what they had to say... and the ONE report that specifically said that Al Quaida may be trying to hijack planes for some sort of attack... was just basically laughed at by Bush, Condi Rice and their cronies because in her words 'it didnt' make sense and was to speculative.

Those are her words. But most Republicans NEVER ask why.... instead they want to pretend that this is ALL Bill Clinton's fault.. when he NEVER had the opportunity to legally take Bin Laden. Read those words carefully.... legally take him.

Yes we could have killed him... just like we could have killed Hussein during the first Gulf War... but it's our stupid international laws and our bowing to terrorist countries (like Pakistan) made it impossible.

Even the Israelis had a chance to get Saddam in the first gulf war and we told them no.

So in closing... let's not be revisionists about what happened or why.

Clinton has admitted repeatedly that he wishes he could have done more... but at the end he did everything he could to brief Bush on the threat.

And in typical Bush style he just didn't care.. much like those minutes that he sat there listening to children read while the country was under attack.

That's your hero... that's your leader.

[Kat4Ever]

Oh we want to start comparising 'Clintonisms' to 'Bushisms'?

That's always fun.

Here it's my turn.

"I like to tell people when the final history is written on Iraq, it will look like just a comma because there is -- my point is, there's a strong will for democracy."

"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror."

"I said I was looking for a book to read, Laura said you ought to try Camus. I also read three Shakespeares. ... I've got a eck-a-lec-tic reading list."

"We shouldn't fear a world that is more interacted."

"I think -- tide turning -- see, as I remember -- I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of -- it's easy to see a tide turn -- did I say those words?"

"I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5 pound largemouth bass in my lake." --George W. Bush, on his best moment in office, interview with the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag, May 7, 2006

"And so I'm for medical liability at the federal level."

"People don't need to worry about security. This deal wouldn't go forward if we were concerned about the security for the United States of America." --George W. Bush, on the deal to hand over U.S. port security to a company operated by the United Arab Emirates, Washington, D.C., Feb. 23, 2006

"As you can possibly see, I have an injury myself -- not here at the hospital, but in combat with a cedar. I eventually won. The cedar gave me a little scratch. As a matter of fact, the Colonel asked if I needed first aid when she first saw me. I was able to avoid any major surgical operations here, but thanks for your compassion, Colonel." --George W. Bush, after visiting with wounded veterans from the Amputee Care Center of Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Jan. 1, 2006

[aztecgoods]

First of all BUsh is not my hero by a long shot, I don't think he's that great at all, but the alternatives of Gore and Kerry was even more of a joke. I agree that Bush didn't take terrorism seriously either until 9/11, but Clinton DID have chances to take him out and his own officials said that they didn't want to because it may cause some controversy. The only thing the Clinton ad was obseesed was (besides Clinton getting laid as mapossible) was protecting his "image" and not being controversial or taking chances. I know that sounds like a joke, but numerous peeps from Free to Clark said Clinton was a total joke on the terrorism issue.

I wouldn't even be critical at all of Clinton on this issue, if it wasn't for the fact that now he does the saturday night live routine of "terrorism yeah I invented the war on terrorism" obvious joke and a lie, thats all I'm saying. If he just said yeah we tried to do a few things but didn't really realize the extent of the threat, that would be fine, its just his huge lies now after the fact about how he was "obsessed" about it is what I'm talking about. Thats a total lie, his peeps said it was just the opposite, he didn't give one lick about it.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I think Clinton is a joke and always has been.....

[RushDog]

From what I have read, socialized medicine basically sucks. a socialized health system is great for children, but as you get older and older, the attitude is "you've had your turn" so you have access to fewer medical resources. A pretty horrifying way to treat human beings. The cancer survival rates in those countries are much lower than the U.S.. From what I hear, the worst place to have cancer is in England. If you have anything seriously wrong with you, you're basically screwed because you're going to have to wait a long time before you get any treatment. The average wait for an MRI in Canada is 4-6 months, and there is virtually no preventive health care. In Canada, pets get better health care than humans. If the U.S. was to go to a socialized health care system, I sure hope that it would better than the countries that already have it. The health care system isn't perfect over here, but as I cancer survivor, I'm thankful I live in the U.S.

Here's a little 25 minute documentary that gives a good idea of what the health care system in Canada is like. It's called "Dead Meat".

http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I am happy I live in the U.S. we my not have the best health care system....however we don't have the worst either. And as someone with MS and has had 5 MRI'S withinin a 3 year span. I am very happy that we have the health care that we do have. As I see things it could always be worse.:)

[RushDog]

we amy not have the best health care system....

Who's Amy?

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Who's Amy?

Thanks too much of a hurry I will fix that!:p

[aztecgoods]

Your totally right. Its not just socialized heatlh care, its socialism in general, can you name one country that has come out on top with a socialist system? No they all fail its a fundamentally flawed system. That's why its so screwed up for anyone to think that moving towards more socialism is the way to go. It is not. Thats like saying, we should pattern our offense after the Raiders. Why would you pattern something off of something that has consistently been a failure.

Thats my main problem with most lib democrats is that they are so fanatically for moving this country closer and closer to a socialist system that will eventually be the countrys downfall. The Rep haven't been much better as of late, but the more the Rep move towards the left the dems move even further. We really need a 3rd party to emerge, but that may never happen until its too late. Why anyone at this day and age, particularly anyone who is educated thinks socialism is the way to go is just mind boggling. But nonetheless about 98% of the dems think that way and about 30% of the rep, including Bush who is a big big big spender. His answer to practically every problem we've had is Oh lets just throw more money at it, thats the ticket. Were dealing with a bunch of socialist IDIOTS. Not that bush is a socialist, but his spending habits are horrible.

[RushDog]

Thanks too much of a hurry I will fix that!:p

I'm just messing with you. I know you're ADHD/Dislexic (In a hurry to do things backwards). That's okay, we still love ya!

[RushDog]

Your totally right. Its not just socialized heatlh care, its socialism in general, can you name one country that has come out on top with a socialist system? No they all fail its a fundamentally flawed system. That's why its so screwed up for anyone to think that moving towards more socialism is the way to go. It is not. Thats like saying, we should pattern our offense after the Raiders. Why would you pattern something off of something that has consistently been a failure.

Thats my main problem with most lib democrats is that they are so fanatically for moving this country closer and closer to a socialist system that will eventually be the countrys downfall.

But, government housing is really nice! :rolleyes:

[MusicLover]

It's dyslexic, Rush.... Touche. :p

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I'm just messing with you. I know you're ADHD/Dislexic (In a hurry to do things backwards). That's okay, we still love ya!


You crack me up Rush....I am neither. However my arms do hurt today! I moved so much wood yeasterday from the tree that they toook down and chopped. My son when he came home from school afterwe were almost down told me to quit because my legs wer bleeding as well as my arms and hands. I am strong! Stronger than my nephew who lifts weights and plays football. He left early and went home he said it was too hard.....lol:p

[X1TX]

Socialized medicine works. The only problem is it doesn't work very well. And in the long run, no country can make it work on a near-permanent basis.

Also, how does a government 'of the people' justify removing 15% of our national economy? On what Constitutional basis does that rest? Besides, if you need to see a doctor in this country you can. Emergency rooms take thousands of patients per day that cannot afford to pay. Almost every medical university takes in patients on a daily basis that cannot pay. There are thousands upon thousands of 'illegal' immigrants in this country who receive free medical care on a daily basis. We as a nation spend billions per year on this. And recall, there is nothing 'free'. If the government provides something, it is provided at a vastly inflated cost.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Socialized medicine works. The only problem is it doesn't work very well. And in the long run, no country can make it work on a near-permanent basis.

Also, how does a government 'of the people' justify removing 15% of our national economy? On what Constitutional basis does that rest? Besides, if you need to see a doctor in this country you can. Emergency rooms take thousands of patients per day that cannot afford to pay. Almost every medical university takes in patients on a daily basis that cannot pay. There are thousands upon thousands of 'illegal' immigrants in this country who receive free medical care on a daily basis. We as a nation spend billions per year on this. And recall, there is nothing 'free'. If the government provides something, it is provided at a vastly inflated cost.

That is true it is not free in the end our tax dollars pay for it....

[RushDog]

You crack me up Rush....I am neither. However my arms do hurt today! I moved so much wood yeasterday from the tree that they toook down and chopped. My son when he came home from school afterwe were almost down told me to quit because my legs wer bleeding as well as my arms and hands. I am strong! Stronger than my nephew who lifts weights and plays football. He left early and went home he said it was too hard.....lol:p

That's because you're getting soft. You've been spending too much time on the computer.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

That's because you're getting soft. You've been spending too much time on the computer.

Not that much but a bit more than this time last year......well that was because my computer was still packed! I have missed being online. I have had so much to talk about too....:talker:

[RushDog]

Not that much but a bit more than this time last year......well that was because my computer was still packed! I have missed being online. I have had so much to talk about too....:talker:

Well, you need to get off your duff, and do some housework.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Well, you need to get off your duff, and do some housework.


I'll have you know I cleaned the kitchen, did laundry, moved wood, cleaned my sons room, went grocery shopping and spent 2 hours at play practice today! Plus all that time on the computer. How do I do this well I don't work outside of the home unless I want to!:p

[lucy]

I'll have you know I cleaned the kitchen, did laundry, moved wood, cleaned my sons room, went grocery shopping and spent 2 hours at play practice today! Plus all that time on the computer. How do I do this well I don't work outside of the home unless I want to!:p

A man works from sun to sun a woman's work is never done.
hee hee

zzzziippp
mouth piece.....check
goggles.....check

:p

[RushDog]

Now i am waiting for Rush Doggy to sing to me......:heartpump




Okay, THR, you keep begging me to sing you. Here goes.

Put another log on the fire
Cook me up some bacon and some beans
Go out to the car and fill it up and change the tires
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans

Come on baby, you can fill my pipe, and then go fetch my slippers
Pour me up another pot of tea
And put another log on the fire, and come and tell me why you're leaving me

Aint I always nice to your kid sister
Don't I take her drivin' every night?
Aint I gonna take you fishin' with me someday?
Don't I warn you when you're gettin' fat?
A Man Can't love a woman more than that!
So sit here at my feet
'Cause I like you when you're sweet
And you know it aint femine to fight

So,put another log on the fire
Cook me up some bacon and some beans
Go out to the car and fill it up and change the tires
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans

Come on baby, you can fill my pipe, and then go fetch my slippers
Pour me up another pot of tea
And put another log on the fire, and come and tell me why you're leaving me


Now wasn't that sweet?

[lucy]

ummm, nice Rush.
THR you had better get a good nights sleep, sounds like you are going to need it! LOL

[lizzyj]

A man works from sun to sun a woman's work is never done.
hee hee

zzzziippp
mouth piece.....check
goggles.....check

:p

ROFLMAO :D

I might have to zip up for you

[lizzyj]

I think this one is a good responce:

Early in the morning I put breakfast on your table
and I make sure that your coffee has its sugar and cream
Your eggs are over easy and you toast is lightly
All that's missing is your morning Kiss you used to greet me

Now you say the juice is sour, it used to be so sweet
and I can't help wonder if your talking about me
We don't talk the way we used to talk, it's hurting so deep
I've got my pride, I will not cry but it's making me weak

I'm not your super woman
I'm not the kind of girl that you can let down and think that everything is ok
Boy, I am only human
This girl needs more than an occasional hug as a token of love from you to me



sing it loud girl!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Okay, THR, you keep begging me to sing you. Here goes.

Put another log on the fire
Cook me up some bacon and some beans
Go out to the car and fill it up and change the tires
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans

Come on baby, you can fill my pipe, and then go fetch my slippers
Pour me up another pot of tea
And put another log on the fire, and come and tell me why you're leaving me

Aint I always nice to your kid sister
Don't I take her drivin' every night?
Aint I gonna take you fishin' with me someday?
Don't I warn you when you're gettin' fat?
A Man Can't love a woman more than that!
So sit here at my feet
'Cause I like you when you're sweet
And you know it aint femine to fight

So,put another log on the fire
Cook me up some bacon and some beans
Go out to the car and fill it up and change the tires
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans

Come on baby, you can fill my pipe, and then go fetch my slippers
Pour me up another pot of tea
And put another log on the fire, and come and tell me why you're leaving me


Now wasn't that sweet?


That was too perfect because I had just put another log on the fire....I would gladly go and fetch your slippers! Wash your socks and sew your old blue jeans! Just don't ever tell me I'm getting too fat! lol. When i was in 7th grade a boy came up to me and asked me if I wAs interested in playing football. i told him no he just kept on askin' I just had to tell him i was a girl. I was 5'7" and weighed about 115 pounds the poor guy never talked to me again!!!!

[sandy]

Straw polls are all over the place and I think it's WAY too early to tell who will win 08. Seems like Hillary is in the lead for the dems, but the latest GOP straw poll has Guiliani, Newt, and Romney in that order. But the hottest bloggers have Newt first. I think we have plenty of time hopefully to get someone else. I'm not crazy about Newt.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/16/february-straw-poll-results/

[sandy]

Gore reiterates he will not run despite many liberals wanting him to.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/16/070216193307.67kfaghf.html

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Straw polls are all over the place and I think it's WAY too early to tell who will win 08. Seems like Hillary is in the lead for the dems, but the latest GOP straw poll has Guiliani, Newt, and Romney in that order. But the hottest bloggers have Newt first. I think we have plenty of time hopefully to get someone else. I'm not crazy about Newt.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/16/february-straw-poll-results/

That would be cool if Newt ran.......:cool:

[sandy]

I like Newt but I don't know if his past baggage would hurt him.

[sandy]

A liberal hit-piece says Mitt Romney's grandfather had 12 wives. Bill Clinton has just been seen at the local Mormon church trying to join.:D

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I would like to see Al Gore run he would make a fine President! I am still hopeful I was hoping he would announce but it appears as if our Planet is the most important thing on his agenda....To bad more people don't see An Inconvenient Truth.....I think it would open the eyes of all those who choose to hide in the dark......

[sandy]

Gore was a crappy VP and he would make an even worse POTUS. We have bigger problems than his global hot air agenda.:rolleyes:

[sandy]

McCain announced on Letterman tonite. What a tard. Who cares? He can't win. He's too untrustworthy, old, and unattractive.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/28/D8NJ29T01.html

[RushDog]

McCain announced on Letterman tonite. What a tard. Who cares? He can't win. He's too untrustworthy, old, and unattractive.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/28/D8NJ29T01.html

He's too wishy-washy.

[sandy]

Yeah, that too. He reminds me of Kerry and Hillary as far as being a flip-flopper goes. It's the old 'vote however will keep me popular' theory. It seldom works. Americans are too smart for that.

[RushDog]

Yeah, that too. He reminds me of Kerry and Hillary as far as being a flip-flopper goes. It's the old 'vote however will keep me popular' theory. It seldom works. Americans are too smart for that.

Most Republicans don't care for him, so I wouldn't look at him as a serious candidate.

[sandy]

Who do you like? I wonder if we're gonna get someone new. I certainly hope so because I'm not excited about any of these guys. I would vote for Jeb. I think he's done a good job with FL considering all the obstacles.
We still have plenty of time but I hope someone great comes around soon.

[RushDog]

I always liked Rudy, even though he probably doesn't have a shot. Jeb would be good, but I don't think another Bush will be voted in for a while.

[Eileenacanadian]

I think American is ready for it... I'm not a democrat but I do feel she would make a decent Pres.

I agree with you. Also, Bill would be right behind her and he's brilliant! Two heads better than one! This will be an exciting election! Great candidates!

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I always liked Rudy, even though he probably doesn't have a shot. Jeb would be good, but I don't think another Bush will be voted in for a while.

For a while.......:rolleyes: It will never happen!!! W. made sure of that!

[Eileenacanadian]

I always liked Rudy, even though he probably doesn't have a shot. Jeb would be good, but I don't think another Bush will be voted in for a while.

Why wouldn't Rudy have a good shot? With how he dealt with 911 wouldn't that push him in front of the line? I think Rudy would be a great president.

[RushDog]

Why wouldn't Rudy have a good shot? With how he dealt with 911 wouldn't that push him in front of the line? I think Rudy would be a great president.

I think he would be too. But, alot of people don't like him.

[sandy]

Rudy is too liberal (pro-abortion/homosexuality, married 3X). The conservative base which elects Republican presidents will never support him.
He did do a good job in NY and is very likable. And the narcissistic group won't vote for him because of his looks.

The Clintons would be a disaster. Tho Bill is charismatic, Hillary is evil. And a lesbian according to DC insiders.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I like Rudy but I have a feeling I am voting democrat due to the fact that the republicans are so greedy for the wealthy......they need to start paying taxes and perhaps we the rest of us won't have to pay for the 100 billion W. is asking congress for so that he can continue this war.......Which we should never have started to begin with....I don't think they have found Bin Laden in Iraq......I don't think he ever went to Iraq.....Nothing like getting our focus off the objective........

[sandy]

The wealthy pay more taxes than anyone. The lower half of income earners pay nothing compared to the top.

You could say only the Rich Pay Taxes!

The Top 50% pay 96.54% of All Income Taxes
The Top 25% pay 84% of All Income Taxes
The Top 1% Pay More Than a Third: 34.27%

So the old tax argument isn't going to work here. :rolleyes:


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/cy2003.guest.html

[Eileenacanadian]

I would like to see Al Gore run he would make a fine President! I am still hopeful I was hoping he would announce but it appears as if our Planet is the most important thing on his agenda....To bad more people don't see An Inconvenient Truth.....I think it would open the eyes of all those who choose to hide in the dark......

I think he'd be the best person for president!

[Eileenacanadian]

I think he would be too. But, alot of people don't like him.

Rudy is cool and he cares about the people.

[Eileenacanadian]

Hilary, Rudy and Sen. Barack Obama all running for president at once! It's like going to a great restaurant and the food all sounds great so you don't know which one to order. This is exciting!

[sandy]

Yeah, let's see, do I want the abortion/homosexuality/socialist/tax increase-supporting: muslim, pagan, or imitation Christian?? Hmmm. Tough decision.:rolleyes:

[Eileenacanadian]

we here in vancouver canada have let gay couples marry. why not?

[Eileenacanadian]

On a lighter note.... It is snowing right now!!! Big snow flakes. Beeeeautiful!

[sandy]

Because the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination against God and those who do it will NOT see the kingdom of Heaven. Good enough reason for me.

"The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God." (I CORINTHIANS 6:9-11).

If the "Christian" homosexual repents and stops what he is doing and lives right by God, he will be ok.

http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-1-corinthians-6-9-11(2).htm

[Eileenacanadian]

The narrow minded wouldn't make a good president.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Yeah, let's see, do I want the abortion/homosexuality/socialist/tax increase-supporting: muslim, pagan, or imitation Christian?? Hmmm. Tough decision.:rolleyes:

"Love Thy Neighbor As Thy Self", and "He Who Is Perfect Cast The First Stone" Guess your covered huh....being a Christian means not to judge....."Let Go And Let God" but you can't because your hate is so strong that you have blinders on......in one post you say that Muslim people can Convert but yet here you go continue to assume that Barack Obama is Muslim when he says different........Tax Increasing no one does it better than the Republicans...because they don't pay they expect everyone else to take care of them.......How can you call someone an Imitation Christian? That is not how a Christian behaves.......well at least the ones I know...They love everyone....accept anyone into their Church it is a hospital for sinners....Without rolling their eyes at other people.....we had a man and his family come to church they had just moved to the area......his children did not have socks on their feet he did not have a coat to wear.....his wife was deceased......they were living in their car.........What did we do we helped him get a job.....took care of his children while he was at work and gave him food to get started....where is he now? He is no stranger to church and now he gives back.......oh yeah he is a democrat also he has talked to me quite a bit about why he lost everything.......No one would help him after his wife's death he was in a big city and got lost in the system.....he lost his home and all that was there except for a few things he was able to hold onto......he now helps others in need.......you have got to have an open heart and not look down on others........

[sandy]

I have a problem with people who WON'T help themselves. Receiving charity is fine when necessary and not a lifestyle.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I have a problem with people who WON'T help themselves. Receiving charity is fine when necessary and not a lifestyle.

Well what do you know another revelation that will be taken back.....when it suits you.........do you get tired of talking out of both sides of your mouth....you can't have it both ways........oh yeah I forget to mention this man is hispanic.......is he a citizen?

[sandy]

I don't care if he was hispanic or not.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I don't care if he was hispanic or not.

No criminal alien remark I am shocked....Due to all the times you have posted about aliens need to be shipped back I thought surely you would want him to go back as well.......Who decides who is an Illegal Immigrant?

[sandy]

I don't assume someone is a criminal alien until I know for sure. Then I get ticked off if they are. I like Hispanic, Costa Rican, El Salvadorian, and all other foreign people. I like immigrants. LEGAL ONES!!!! Why would I possibly say anything about your friend? I don't know him or his situation.

I post that CRIMINAL ALIENS ("illegal aliens") need to be arrested and deported. That's what we're SUPPOSED to do when they break our laws.

Criminal aliens know who they are. There are 50 million of them here. And they
ALL need to go.

Your friend, if he is here legally, is more than welcome to stay imo.

An "illegal alien" (criminal alien) is one who is here illegally. It really is that simple.

[TaylorHicksRocks]

I don't assume someone is a criminal alien until I know for sure. Then I get ticked off if they are. I like Hispanic, Costa Rican, El Salvadorian, and all other foreign people. I like immigrants. LEGAL ONES!!!! Why would I possibly say anything about your friend? I don't know him or his situation.

I post that CRIMINAL ALIENS ("illegal aliens") need to be arrested and deported. That's what we're SUPPOSED to do when they break our laws.

Criminal aliens know who they are. There are 50 million of them here. And they
ALL need to go.

Your friend, if he is here legally, is more than welcome to stay imo.

An "illegal alien" (criminal alien) is one who is here illegally. It really is that simple.

Who decides who is here illegally? I don't want that job.....Do You?

[sandy]

It's NOT rocket science. They are here illegally if they do not have the documentation required to be here legally.:rolleyes:

[sandy]

Back on topic for a sec: I think I'm fed up with the presidential candidates already. With Hillary and Obama all of a suddenly developing southern drawls, I've had enough hypocricy/deceit for the next year.:(

The election is 20 months away. They should all go away and come back in a year. Then we'll be ready.:)

[RushDog]

Back on topic for a sec: I think I'm fed up with the presidential candidates already. With Hillary and Obama all of a suddenly developing southern drawls, I've had enough hypocricy/deceit for the next year.:(



Maybe they're trying to emulate Jimmy Carter...or Billy Carter.:11doh:

[TaylorHicksRocks]

Maybe they're trying to emulate Jimmy Carter...or Billy Carter.:11doh:

Maybe they really have a southern accent.........:p

[sandy]

Hillary and Obama are not to be trusted. They will say/do anything to get elected. At least Edwards was honest about taxes etc.

[SlighDawg]

Maybe they really have a southern accent.........:p

Naw, neither one does. I will say though, the southern accent is THE single most infectious accent in the USA today.

I remember, when I was a little girl... we lived in Central FL, which is more northern than southern by far. We have more of a "valley girl" accent around here. We went to visit my momma's family up in Bay County (North FL, near Panama but more up in the country). I was there for a weekend and it took me WEEKS to get rid of that southern drawl.

Tea = tay
Right = rat
Sister = date on Saturday night... oh did I say that in my outside voice? Sorry! :smilies3:

[X1TX]

Maybe they're trying to emulate Jimmy Carter...or Billy Carter.:11doh:

But then they'd have to get a beer named after them.
"Hilly Beer"? Sounds too much like "Billy Beer"
"Obama Beer"? - Uh, no thank you............

[sandy]

I can't believe they're starting this cr@p 18 months (!!!) before the election.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/05/video-slickly-produced-yet-stupid-anti-hillary-ad/

[sandy]

Hillary now says she is the new Kennedy. I thought Obama was the new Kennedy.:confused: Who wants to be a Kennedy anyway? They're a bunch of woman killing/raping drunk/drugged adulterers.:mad:

[RushDog]

Hillary now says she is the new Kennedy. I thought Obama was the new Kennedy.:confused: Who wants to be a Kennedy anyway? They're a bunch of woman killing/raping drunk/drugged adulterers.:mad:

And, they talk funny.

[sandy]

You mean when they "pahk" theya "cahs" at "Hahvud"??:D

[RushDog]

You mean when they "pahk" theya "cahs" at "Hahvud"??:D

Yeah, they sound Wee-tah-ded.

[sandy]

Tancredo is in. He's the anti-illegal immigration candidate. I wish he had a chance to win. He would be awesome.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/02/audio-tancredo-makes-it-official/

[sandy]

New reports say Fred Thompson may run but I don't think Americans will elect anyone with cancer. The office of POTUS is too important to be out sick with a possibly recurring fatal illness. I also don't think they will elect a man with such a receding hairline. They're kind of snobby that way.

[sandy]

John Edwards spends $400 a month on his haircuts?. Wow! Here is a real "man of the people." Now I understand why so many low and middle income Americans admire him so much. When you're struggling to put food on the table it really is easy to identify with someone who spends $400 on a haircut. :rolleyes:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0407/The_Hairs_Still_Perfect.html

I love the part that says Hillary buried a stylist on her campaign payroll. Crook..... And Americans are even considering this loser for POTUS:confused:

[SlighDawg]

:rolleyes:

Of course we know the good ol' boys would NEVER do anything like get haircuts. You find the silliest blogs and claim them as "news sources". :rolleyes:

Just... :rolleyes: