was Katharine that bad?

[IdolMe]

I didn't feel Katharine was that bad... whatcha think?

[mrsgollum]

no the judges need their heads and ears checked. Kathy was better than whitney!

[frank]

I didn't feel Katharine was that bad... whatcha think?

She sang well last night. But combine her performance with the way she looked.......She rocked my world.

That Yellow dress cut up to the thigh, great legs, and great cleavage. And That face, very nice.
So, does this now make me this message boards'
"Dirty Old Man"?

[Ciuma]

She looks incredible, but did anyone else notice she was sporting a Mariah Carey look? Even the cleavage was Mariah. A little too much for my taste, but... well... I don't hold it against her. :P Still looked good. Oddly, I didn't even notice her lower body until rewatching it. Hmm...

Anyway, why am I talking so much about her body? She was good. Not even bad, much less "that bad." I think maybe they were afraid to say anything good to her after "The Voice Within" and her singing another Diva song. I think they could have just told her "wrong song." But oh, well... I guess their harshness makes life more interesting...

[Idolfanatic]

Idol Date April 25 06
Questions raised on McPhee's performance are obvious attempts by the AI judges to sway perception and votes. ...............Long story short, McPhee is one of the few contestants who has chosen to distance herself from the on stage theatrics and body jerks, focusing on her voice/instrument to do the work to win.
I think/hope America gets it right tommorrow and votes off either Hicks or Pickler. As much as I have loved watching the journey of Kellie Pickler, and as much as I will continue to support her endeavors, her performance tonight was in the bottom two for sure.
The other, Taylor Hicks is just getting annoying. I think America has caught on to Hicks little scheme. As a refresher course, Hicks first impersonated the great Ray Charles. A funny walk, a backside jerk and body mannerisms all included. Then it was the reincarnation of Joe Cocker for a couple of weeks. The previous two weeks was a version of T. Cruise in Footloose. What would America do with another version of the desperate T. Cruise?
Its time for Hicks or Pickler to go and get down to the 5th AI Winner who will sell records and has the voice to fill an album. I don't care which one or in which order, but both need to exit.
Remember America, its a voice/singing competition. As much as I like the remaining 4, my money is on the one I think has proven over the last 6 weeks to possess the most versatile, the most controlled and the best range of all AI 5 contestants.
This is One4McPhee

[HateChrisDaughtry]

I didn't feel Katharine was that bad... whatcha think?

I didn't think she was that bad either. But I will admit her song choice was a little to ambitious and BIg for her vocal range, so she didn't exactly shine tonight either. She sure looked amazing though, very beautiful...

[McFeverish.....]

She sure did look awesome.

And I personally thought she looked better than Mariah.

[MusicLover]

I was mesmerized by her singing, her appearance, her emotion... And actually got pissed off when I heard what the judges said to her. I want to hear them try to sing that song!! She rocked.

[Son of Simon]

Let's look at both sides of the argument:

Pro:

For the sake of this argument, let's just say "I Have Nothing" is one of the top 20 most difficult songs of all time. Let's just say the song is so wonderfully difficult that it's a signature trademark - like Michael Jordan's "Airman" dunk acorss the free-throw line, or Gary Coleman saying "Watcha talkin' bout Willis?" It would be too big, even for Emmanuelle Lewis to try and say that line.

Judges have torn contestants to shreds in the past for trying to tackle what they consider to be "sacred" music. Additionally, the judges use the original singer as the benchmark- and while Katharine has excellent vocal control, she doesn't have the raw power or range that Whitney Houston has.

Con

All of that said, I feel Katharine got somewhat of a raw deal last night.

Consider the fact that Katharine has been the only contestant to consistently pick challenging songs. The judges registered her choice last night (as many members of this forum will) as Kat saying "I'm as good as Whitney Houston". Take it a step further and say "I'm as good as Whitney Houston, singing one of her most difficult songs."

Accept this logic, and it's easy to spot some arrogance in there. But should we really accept this logic? Because on one hand the judges are saying "Raise the bar" to contestants like Pickler while they praised Chris for singing a very unchallenging Bryan Adams song.

For the record, I consider any song that I myself am capable of singing as "unchallenging". I won't be quitting my day job anytime soon. I'm no singer- but I can sing that raspy Bryan Adams song, even without the additional lighting, the guitar playing sidekicks onstage, and even the backup singer keeping note for me...

Gee, anyone else think Chris might have had just a little bit of help there?

This is what I believe about judges: Each week, depending on the genre, the judges seem to sway back and forth. Some weeks they want contestants to stay in their element. Doing that the following week means you're playing it too safe. One week they want you to show personality and entertain. The next week they want you to focus on vocals.

It is entirely conceivable that the judges tailor their comments to "see-saw" in order to try and keep voting more balanced.

[RushDog]

I was really annoyed by the judges. I thought they gave a lame excuse for not liking her performance. "This song is too big for you". It's just a freakin' song, and she did a very good job singing it.

[McFeverish.....]

Wow, you've taken my suspicions and solidified it Simon's son.

Thanks for your post.

I completely agree.

[MusicLover]

It is entirely conceivable that the judges tailor their comments to "see-saw" in order to try and keep voting more balanced.

And it is entirely ALSO conceivable that the judges are trying to sway the vote towards a certain contestant....

[Watcher]

WHEN I heard the judges gave Katharine McPhee low marks for her performance, I thought she must have blew it. So I watched it once and quickly came to the conclusion that it wasn't bad.
It wasn't the best performance of her American Idol career but it wasn't even average. It was better than average.
To be very sure, I watched it again. This time, I paid close attention and just "be neutral". It turned out even better the second time around.
Of course, it wasn't Whitney Houston on the mike. Nobody sings a hit number like the original singer, just like nobody sings White Christmas better than Bing Crosby, or Stardust better than Nat King Cole.
Katharine was good as usual. Maybe half a notch lower than last week's performance but certainly a good rendition of the song. I have to disagree with the three judges. I am not into questioning their motives. I just disagree with them.
I think most of us who watched the show intently since Kat was the first singer arrived at the same conclusion. She was good as usual and simply stunning in her attire.

[graciespeaks]

I believe the point is that Katharine showed what she didn't have last night!
Overall, sure she did good.
Every contestant has had to listen to tough criticism, why should Kat be any different?
I do not believe that Randy nor Paula have a secret agenda, to promote their favorite. :rolleyes:

[RushDog]

I believe the point is that Katharine showed what she didn't have last night!
Overall, sure she did good.
Every contestant has had to listen to tough criticism, why should Kat be any different?
I do not believe that Randy nor Paula have a secret agenda, to promote their favorite. :rolleyes:

I don't know. They went nuts over Chris and Elliot. Although I thought their performances were great, I didn't think they were any better than Katherine's. At least not enough to give them all the love and to beat up on her.

[pddccc]

I agree with you watcher. If she had sang the song like Whitney they would have called it Karaoke.
Paula weeping over Elliott was a little much. I thought he was alright last night but not good enough to bring anyone to tears.
I thought Chris was good but it is a competition and it seems to me they have already given the title to him.

[MusicLover]

I agree with you watcher. If she had sang the song like Whitney they would have called it Karaoke.
Paula weeping over Elliott was a little much. I thought he was alright last night but not good enough to bring anyone to tears.
I thought Chris was good but it is a competition and it seems to me they have already given the title to him.


Ah, Blah, Chris is great. He does not need to be in this competition; he's above it. And to answer the original question: No, Kat was not bad at all.

[cloie4me]

I thought the judges were right on, her voice wasn't strong enough. But the worst thing she did was try to add dramatic movement to a ballot. What was she thinking?

This should have been a good night for her, the only thing she left me with was laugh lines.

[Feisty Kitty]

Was the Kitty Kat in top form last night? No! Am I still her biggest fan? Yes!

Kat was nervous, a bit shaky in the beginning, and she seemed short of breath as a result. A song like "I Have Nothing" has to be big and ferocious, so it needs a great deal of power, and for singers, that is wind, behind it. She finally got her bearings after the opening verse, but I think she had already lost the judges. She was going for a big performance full of personality, but I think she pushed herself too far. She doesn't have that kind of personality. She is soft, sensual, sexy, and her voice is all of these things. Many people think because she doesn't scream or dance or pound her chest that she lacks personality, but they have just missed her.

Did she nail the middle and the end? Hell yes! Did she look amazing and super sexy, and in a yellow dress no less! How many women can wear yellow? It makes me look like a corpse! She looked amazing!

The thing about Kat is, I think of all of the contestants, she has consistently pushed herself, while others have done so, at times (Elliot), or have tried and failed (Kellie, Paris, Taylor, Kellie) and have not bothered to at all (CHRIS). She is the best singer up there, and to take on the song she did last night was ballsy (It is ok, Kellie, we aren't talking about you).

I still support her, and she is still the most talented.

[FalseIdol]

WHEN I heard the judges gave Katharine McPhee low marks for her performance, I thought she must have blew it.

Have the Katherine fans ever stopped to think that perhaps the judges have come to expect more from Katherine (that's usually what happens when you are good) and then become disappointed when she doesn't deliver? That's the difference between a star and an ordinary singer; a star can deliver something special week after week; an ordinary singer can just do it every now and then.

Time for Katherine's fan club to quit making excuses. It wasn't a bad performance but if was far from one of her better ones.

[MusicLover]

Have the Katherine fans ever stopped to think that perhaps the judges have come to expect more from Katherine (that's usually what happens when you are good) and then become disappointed when she doesn't deliver? That's the difference between a star and an ordinary singer; a star can deliver something special week after week; an ordinary singer can just do it every now and then.

Time for Katherine's fan club to quit making excuses. It wasn't a bad performance but if was far from one of her better ones.

No one is making excuses. Everyone is sharing their opinions, which I thought was the main purpose of the forums.
:confused:

[barbie_09]

Any one who honestly thinks she did bad is a complete oblivious baboon!!!!!!!!!!! IHEARTKATMCPHEE

[MusicLover]

Any one who honestly thinks she did bad is a complete oblivious baboon!!!!!!!!!!! IHEARTKATMCPHEE

Hear that, Falsie??:D

[Feisty Kitty]

Slow down, Katherine lovers! She wasn't BAD, but she was not at her best. Maybe it was the fact that she went first, maybe it was because her voice and style weren't really right for the song, maybe she stretched herself too far. It was still WAY better than I, or, for that matter, any of the other contestants, would have done! I sing, but I would Never tackle that song! She did amazingly well, considering all that was stacked against her. However, in the world of Katherine McPhee performances, that was not one of her best!!!

[MusicLover]

Slow down, Katherine lovers! She wasn't BAD, but she was not at her best. Maybe it was the fact that she went first, maybe it was because her voice and style weren't really right for the song, maybe she stretched herself too far. It was still WAY better than I, or, for that matter, any of the other contestants, would have done! I sing, but I would Never tackle that song! She did amazingly well, considering all that was stacked against her. However, in the world of Katherine McPhee performances, that was not one of her best!!!

I didn't say it was her best. I just think she tackled a terribly difficult song, and she didn't do that bad all things considered. And she definately didn't deserve the crude criticism she got from the judges.

[Feisty Kitty]

Yeah, I thought the judges were a bit harsh, but I think it is because they expect so much more from her, as do I, as her fan. Usually she is flawless, which is why I think she received such a huge reaction, from the judges and people on this site, and me. I was really disappointed, I won't lie. Not because she was bad, but because she is usually so FRICKIN' AWESOME!!!

[FalseIdol]

And she definately didn't deserve the crude criticism she got from the judges.

Music:

I may be a baboon, but certainly not an oblivious baboon! LOL.

What was crude about the criticism the judges leveled at McPhee last night? They said the song was too big for her, they thought her performance was mechanical and that she oversang it.

You act like they suggested she had no business in the contest. She is one of the top contestants, usually they fawn all over her, but last night they were disappointed with the effort.

[Son of Simon]

I agree with your logic FalseIdol.

If we were judging diving, and noticed that each week Katharine was attemping only high degree-of-difficulty dives, we would come to expect high quality and high marks from her. This is what the judges are alluding to.

What I'm pointing out is that this judging may be technically flawed in that you can't apply it to the "herd" we like to call the American general audience. The judging model is actually more appropriate in consideration of figure skating.

We have a performer who selects a difficult routine each week. We have other performers who are in varying degrees of selecting less challenging programs. What is more impressive to you- the person who completes 80% of a difficult program, or someone who completes 100% of a less-challenging one?

To me such a comparison boils down to technical skills. Maybe Kat can't run a 4.2 when running side by side with Terrell Owens, but the other contestants are running 4.9 as they race against linemen. See my point? Which is better?

If we want to say that Kat is trying to achieve superstar level, but not quite there, that's better in my opinion than calling the rest of them performers who simply fit the bill. All of the contestants should be firing on all cylinders at this point. All of them should be pushing their vocal range and control to their limits.

Otherwise, we're just watching this skewed comparison where the safest contestant wins.

[MusicLover]

Yeah, I thought the judges were a bit harsh, but I think it is because they expect so much more from her, as do I, as her fan. Usually she is flawless, which is why I think she received such a huge reaction, from the judges and people on this site, and me. I was really disappointed, I won't lie. Not because she was bad, but because she is usually so FRICKIN' AWESOME!!!

Point made and taken, FeistyK!

[FalseIdol]

Point made and taken, FeistyK!

Why you little....

I made that exact same point THREE times and you tore me a new one. Feisty said it once and she's a genius.

That's it! You better be ready for some of that angry "making up stuff" I told you about. :D

[MusicLover]

Why you little....

I made that exact same point THREE times and you tore me a new one. Feisty said it once and she's a genius.

That's it! You better be ready for some of that angry "making up stuff" I told you about. :D

It's all in the delivery, baby! Feisty was very nice, and you weren't. Again, you naughty little Minx!!!



And whoever referenced T.O. earlier, I think he's awesome. Maybe not as awesome as Jake Delhomme or Steve Smith, but he's up there. ;)

[KingdaKaIdol]

I think the judges nailed it regarding Kat's performance last night. To be catty...she looked fat from the waist down in that yellow tent. She's worn more becoming things than that. She's very pretty and she can sing. She'll definitely have a career in the industry, win or not. But she's such a phoney-baloney. Go Elliott!

[Feisty Kitty]

Feisty was nice! Ahhhhh, the irony!

S.O.S. referenced T.O., OK? HEHEHE!

Sorry, I am sometimes too easily entertained! One might think me in the same class as Pickles. The horror!

[Feisty Kitty]

She looked FAT? WHAT!

She looked like a goddess, just ask any man (or woman) on this site!

Even if she had looked fat, it has NOTHING to do with her performance.

I thought her ensemble was the only flawless part of last night.

[alpal]

The judges were so off base on their comments that it was just laughable.How can anybody say this song was too big for her. She did not miss a beat! She more than handled this song. I enjoyed that performance much more than any performance I ever saw of Whitney Houston and i saw Whitney in concert twice. Miss Houston is one of the most boring live performers ever. She stood in one spot and never moved the entire concert. To say she was not as good as Whitney is a joke in my opinion and since when is this a contest between contestants and the best vocalist in the world. Aren't they competeing against each other. She was not saying she was as good as Whitney because she chose a song that she happened to have song before. Simon and Randy owe her a big apology. I hope the publics reaction shows them how wrong they were. Kat rocks!

[FalseIdol]

She looked FAT? WHAT!

She looked like a goddess, just ask any man (or woman) on this site!


She looked anything BUT fat. Kat is very voluptuous. I like a woman with some curves. Besides you can't get away with wearing a dress with an emprire waistline if you're fat.

[FalseIdol]

....She was not saying she was as good as Whitney because she chose a song that she happened to have song before. Simon and Randy owe her a big apology.

In a way she was saying she was better than Whitney; or at least suggesting she could sing that song as well as Whitney does.

But look, she has no one to blame but herself. If you are going to choose songs that have been performed by pop legends you have to expect the judges to compare you to the original. It's a risky move, particularly if you are going to stick pretty much with the original arrangement.

I give her props for taking a risk but it was a gamble that failed.

[McFeverish.....]

The judges were so off base on their comments that it was just laughable.How can anybody say this song was too big for her. She did not miss a beat! She more than handled this song. I enjoyed that performance much more than any performance I ever saw of Whitney Houston and i saw Whitney in concert twice. Miss Houston is one of the most boring live performers ever. She stood in one spot and never moved the entire concert. To say she was not as good as Whitney is a joke in my opinion and since when is this a contest between contestants and the best vocalist in the world. Aren't they competeing against each other. She was not saying she was as good as Whitney because she chose a song that she happened to have song before. Simon and Randy owe her a big apology. I hope the publics reaction shows them how wrong they were. Kat rocks!

Thank you^_^

COMPLETELY agree.

Katharine didn't sound like Whitney, but it doesn't mean she failed.

She did awesome, and I think America knows it too(I hope:))

****

YEAHHHH...Katharine is FAT?

Are you kidding me?

You seriously need to get some glasses...

[graciespeaks]

Why do people think Katharine is above reproach!
She isn't!
She is very talented, and is not as good as Whitney, BUT we all already knew that! Someday maybe we will be saying "OH, Janedoe should never attempt a song by Katharine Mcphee". But for today she should choose her songs more carefully and execute them more emotionally!
But I think we should recognize that Chris and Elliott have gotten their "beatings", and now deserve their "props"!!! :rolleyes:

[McFeverish.....]

Elliot, Chris, AND katharine did well last night.

Isn't this where that philosophy of two stones come to play?

Okay...scratch that.http://www.burneddowndays.com/talk/YaBBImages/rolleyes.gif

But if Kat HAD done a bad job, then I would admit it.

I mean...the Christina song? I didn't really like it.

But she actually showed TRUE emotion last night.

Something that some people wanted to see from her right?

[Feisty Kitty]

Um, sorry, when did Chris ever get a beating? The only negative thing the judges have ever said was that he needed to branch out, AFTER weeks of congratulating his song choice, and knowing himself, and 'staying within his comfort zone.' What a crock! They only critisized him that week because he screamed that Creed song at us!

[frank]

If she had sang the song like Whitney they would have called it Karaoke.

No if she had sung the song like "Whitney"........

They would have had to perform an intervention on her!

Remember Kids, Crack is Whack!

[McFeverish.....]

ROFLMAO....

Hahahahahaha...

OMG...

Thanks for that Frank!

Katharine...PLEASE don't turn into Whitney!!

Awesome pics^_^

I am impressed.

[FalseIdol]

But if Kat HAD done a bad job, then I would admit it.


Baloney. If Kat got up and said "The Sky is Green" you'd be sitting here saying, "You know what---it does look kinda green!"

[graciespeaks]

Some of you act like they slapped her and told her never to sing in public again!
They gave her criticism, and maybe it will actually help her, if she takes it!

[graciespeaks]

Baloney. If Kat got up and said "The Sky is Green" you'd be sitting here saying, "You know what---it does look kinda green!"

You have NEVER been more right!! :)

(did I say that,LOL)

[RushDog]

Baloney. If Kat got up and said "The Sky is Green" you'd be sitting here saying, "You know what---it does look kinda green!"

Well, depending on what was in it for me, I probably would too.

[RushDog]

No if she had sung the song like "Whitney"........

They would have had to perform an intervention on her!

Remember Kids, Crack is Whack!


That's rough. She'd have to sneak up on a glass of water looking like that.

[cloie4me]

Any one who honestly thinks she did bad is a complete oblivious baboon!!!!!!!!!!! IHEARTKATMCPHEE

Well then just call me "betty Baboon" Cause im still laughing!:luxhello:

[Maxfactor]

Katharine was not bad! She sung the song in her voice. To say that she was trying to say she was as good as Whitney was ridiculous. They could say that about any song anyone sings! What a stupid comment! These are people trying to make it into the business. Why would someone risk being so arrogant? The judges trashed her because Andea and his producer buddy LOVED her. They could tell she could sing. Because of that, they were trying to knock her down a peg. They were way harsh and she didn't deserve it. Where the heck did everyone else reach in their choices? Including Elliot? Chris gets tons of praise but could never sing like Katharine. Men have it much easier in singing. Faith Hill, Whitney, Barbra, Celine, those are great singers, but think of all the male singers. Good voices? Yes. Phenomenal? No. Katharine will be right up there with the best females. She was born to sing.

[FalseIdol]

Katharine was not bad! Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. Katharine will be right up there with the best females. She was born to sing.


McFever? Is that you? LOL.

[Maxfactor]

LOL!! What a crackup! No, not McFever. Just pointing out that women have it so much harder than men when it comes to singing. Men really don't have to stretch it at all, hence the Bryan Adams song.

[cloie4me]

Katharine was not bad! She sung the song in her voice. To say that she was trying to say she was as good as Whitney was ridiculous. They could say that about any song anyone sings! What a stupid comment! These are people trying to make it into the business. Why would someone risk being so arrogant? The judges trashed her because Andea and his producer buddy LOVED her. They could tell she could sing. Because of that, they were trying to knock her down a peg. They were way harsh and she didn't deserve it. Where the heck did everyone else reach in their choices? Including Elliot? Chris gets tons of praise but could never sing like Katharine. Men have it much easier in singing. Faith Hill, Whitney, Barbra, Celine, those are great singers, but think of all the male singers. Good voices? Yes. Phenomenal? No. Katharine will be right up there with the best females. She was born to sing.

Your statements are so ridiculous, I wouldn't even know where to start.

I'll just say..I'm sending some of these posts to Katharine so she can get restraining orders.

Can we say delusional and obsessed?

[Maxfactor]

Cloie,
Delusional? I see you have Taylor Hicks all over the place. Let's talk delusional. I'm not obessed. Just know talent when I hear it. Taylor is good, but only for a very specific audience. Not idol material.

[graciespeaks]

The judges trashed her because Andea and his producer buddy LOVED her. They could tell she could sing. Because of that, they were trying to knock her down a peg.

That is RIDICULOUS!
First of all Andrea loved them ALL.
Second could it really be true that this all is just some great big conspiracy?
Did Randy Jackson say "I've had it that bi@#$ is going down tonight"?

I don't think so!!!:yelrotflm

[cloie4me]

Cloie,
Delusional? I see you have Taylor Hicks all over the place. Let's talk delusional. I'm not obessed. Just know talent when I hear it. Taylor is good, but only for a very specific audience. Not idol material.


Really?
The votes tell it all and Taylor gets far more than Katharine.

[graciespeaks]

LOL!! What a crackup! No, not McFever. Just pointing out that women have it so much harder than men when it comes to singing. Men really don't have to stretch it at all, hence the Bryan Adams song.


American Idol harder for women...
1. Kelly Clarkson
2. Rueben
3. Fantasia
4. Carrie

3 to 1, No it's not harder for women.

[Maxfactor]

Gracie,

Don't be ignorant. I meant it's harder for women to make it unless they sing fantastic (or show their boobs). Kelly, Fantasia, and Carrie are very good singers. Rueben sang maybe 2 octives. Maybe. I doubt Tayler could go 2 octives. Women have to have so much more talent than men. Andrea is talent. Freddie Mercury is talent. Most men don't have much.

[cloie4me]

Gracie,

Don't be ignorant. I meant it's harder for women to make it unless they sing fantastic (or show their boobs). Kelly, Fantasia, and Carrie are very good singers. Rueben sang maybe 2 octives. Maybe. I doubt Tayler could go 2 octives. Women have to have so much more talent than men. Andrea is talent. Freddie Mercury is talent. Most men don't have much.


These things you post are your opinion, and not the opinion of others. Therefor, don't call people ignorant simply because they disagree with you. THATS ignorant. Your views are so narrow minded, it will be hard to find anyone (other than your little katharine followers) to agree with you. Open up your mind and your ears and listen..............some of the most talented singers in the world are men.

PS............if you like katharine so much, teach her 2 things....to have a personality and add feeling to her songs, she is lacking.

[frank]

Gracie,

Don't be mad. I meant it's harder for fat men to make it unless they sing fantastic (or show their MAN BOOBS) Reuben sang maybe 2 octaves. Maybe. I doubt Taylor could go 2 octaves. Fat men have to have so much more talent than Thin men. Andrea is talent. Freddie Mercury is talent. Most Fat men don't have much.

Your Point is very well taken.......Even if a Fat man could sing like an angel........................
Would you vote for this guy?

[Maxfactor]

These things you post are your opinion, and not the opinion of others. Therefor, don't call people ignorant simply because they disagree with you. THATS ignorant. Your views are so narrow minded, it will be hard to find anyone (other than your little katharine followers) to agree with you. Open up your mind and your ears and listen..............some of the most talented singers in the world are men.

PS............if you like katharine so much, teach her 2 things....to have a personality and add feeling to her songs, she is lacking.

I was only calling you ignorant because you got mad and didn't understand what I was saying. Yes, many of our greatest singers (not necessarily the most talented, just have good promoters) are men. What I'm saying is that they never have to stretch it as much as women. There is much more expected of women. I'm not narrow minded. I just think Katharine's voice and range is fantastic, something a woman has to have to make it today.

[FalseIdol]

I are not ignorant! No matter who claims I is.

[frank]

Your Point is very well taken.......Even if a Fat man could sing like an angel........................
Would you vote for this guy?

I would, "He Made that Whopper HIS own"

And his two sisters wholeheartidly agree.....

[cloie4me]

I was only calling you ignorant because you got mad and didn't understand what I was saying. Yes, many of our greatest singers (not necessarily the most talented, just have good promoters) are men. What I'm saying is that they never have to stretch it as much as women. There is much more expected of women. I'm not narrow minded. I just think Katharine's voice and range is fantastic, something a woman has to have to make it today.


You didn't call me ignorant, you called Gracie that. Please keep up.
Furthermore, I find your comments to be ridiculous, however, I have no trouble understanding what anyone says.

[graciespeaks]

I was only calling you ignorant because you got mad and didn't understand what I was saying.

I am the one you called ignorant, not Cloie.
Trust me, read my posts, I don't get mad over any of these post!
But I really do not think its harder for women!

[Maxfactor]

Sorry. I was getting it from so many for writing an OPINION I didn't read it right. Just know this. If Taylor gets further than Katharine in this competition, then Idol is not based on the best talent.

[graciespeaks]

Your Point is very well taken.......Even if a Fat man could sing like an angel........................
Would you vote for this guy?

Frank I would vote for you anytime!
Really! Rueben won, why not this guy! :angel2:

[Maxfactor]

Sorry Cloie. I shouldn't have called you ignorant. You're right. It's just a discussion. I still disagree about the women having it harder though. While I think Paris had a great voice I don't think she's mature enough to win. It should be Chris and Katherine at the end. Not because Chris has a tremendous voice, but because he's unique and will probably sell a lot of records. I enjoy listening to them both.

[cloie4me]

or maybe people just have different taste..............
but get ready cause its a comin'

Maybe you could take a picture of your expression, so I can see it when it happens.

[frank]

I was only calling you ignorant because you got mad and didn't understand what I was saying. I'm not narrow minded.





Really, I'm Not!

[Maxfactor]

Frank, you're KILLING me! Hey Cloie, wanna bet? There is NO WAY Taylor is going to win this!!

[cloie4me]

He'll go further than your katharine will.....

and really, isnt that all that matters?

[Magicmarkerman]

I would, "He Made that Whopper HIS own"

And his two sisters wholeheartidly agree.....

Good lord... Do you think Burger King will start offing those cup holders to their frequent customers for free? 'Keep eating here, and you too can have one of these handy holders for FREE!'

[Maxfactor]

Well, he shouldn't, should he? He was HORRIBLE the last two weeks. Both he and Pickler should be gone!! And isn't that really all that matters? Let's be honest. You have to admit he hasn't been at his best.

[cloie4me]

I thought he was great. To me, he is the bomb, I watched him over and over. Don't you see? it's called different taste

But lucky me.....more have my taste

[Maxfactor]

Has nothing to do with taste. Just whether or not you're tone deaf! Gotta go though. I'll check in with ya tomorrow.

[frank]

Well, he shouldn't, should he? He was HORRIBLE the last two weeks. Both he and Pickler should be gone!! And isn't that really all that matters? Let's be honest. You have to admit he hasn't been at his best.

Paris is going home
Remember....We'll Always have Paris......
For Me Too Poop ON!!!!!

[idol_fan_germany]

I totally think she got a raw deal. It is a very hard song, and I thought she did a great job! Kelly completely sucked. It was so boring I almost fell asleep.

[Maxfactor]

Ok Cloie,
Let's talk about the most votes. Don't think Taylor got them. Ha! Either he or Paris are going next.

[sydneylovesace]

Ok Cloie,
Let's talk about the most votes. Don't think Taylor got them. Ha! Either he or Paris are going next.

NO WAY! Taylor will not be going anywhere! Don't get excited!
I am not a big Taylor fan, and even I know that the "Soul Patrol" will step up to the challenge at least 2-3 more weeks.
REMEMBER KATHARINE WAS IN THE BOTTOM "2" a few weeks ago. Taylor has never been in the bottom.
Also even, (not that he knows for sure-he's no mind reader) Randy Jackson said on "The View" this week that he thought Chris and Taylor would be the final 2!
So tread lightly with those words! :luxhello:

[Skylarke]

no the judges need their heads and ears checked. Kathy was better than whitney!

The judges don't need their heads and ears checked. They made the right call on Kat's rendition of Whitney's song. Perhaps you need to listen to Whitney sing that song and all her other songs. Katherine may be good at singing classics, but she can't touch Whitney Houston. I'm sure Clive Davis would tell you the same thing. Whitney did not need voice lessons, she was born a natural unlike Katherine who went to Boston Conservatory and whose mom is a voice coach. Neither did Whitney have to go on Star Search a similar show to American idol, to be discovered. I am not a Kat hater, but that's the way I see it. How dare you make that quote 'Kathy was beete that Whitney!"

[AbsentElement]

The judges don't need their heads and ears checked. They made the right call on Kat's rendition of Whitney's song. Perhaps you need to listen to Whitney sing that song and all her other songs. Katherine may be good at singing classics, but she can't touch Whitney Houston. I'm sure Clive Davis would tell you the same thing. Whitney did not need voice lessons, she was born a natural unlike Katherine who went to Boston Conservatory and whose mom is a voice coach. Neither did Whitney have to go on Star Search a similar show to American idol, to be discovered. I am not a Kat hater, but that's the way I see it. How dare you make that quote 'Kathy was beete that Whitney!"
Maybe she was... in some people's eyes (or ears... or eyes, i guess). It's subjective. But you're right... how dare others have their own opinion!!!

:p

[Skylarke]

Idol Date April 25 06
Questions raised on McPhee's performance are obvious attempts by the AI judges to sway perception and votes. ...............Long story short, McPhee is one of the few contestants who has chosen to distance herself from the on stage theatrics and body jerks, focusing on her voice/instrument to do the work to win.
I think/hope America gets it right tommorrow and votes off either Hicks or Pickler. As much as I have loved watching the journey of Kellie Pickler, and as much as I will continue to support her endeavors, her performance tonight was in the bottom two for sure.
The other, Taylor Hicks is just getting annoying. I think America has caught on to Hicks little scheme. As a refresher course, Hicks first impersonated the great Ray Charles. A funny walk, a backside jerk and body mannerisms all included. Then it was the reincarnation of Joe Cocker for a couple of weeks. The previous two weeks was a version of T. Cruise in Footloose. What would America do with another version of the desperate T. Cruise?
Its time for Hicks or Pickler to go and get down to the 5th AI Winner who will sell records and has the voice to fill an album. I don't care which one or in which order, but both need to exit.
Remember America, its a voice/singing competition. As much as I like the remaining 4, my money is on the one I think has proven over the last 6 weeks to possess the most versatile, the most controlled and the best range of all AI 5 contestants.
This is One4McPhee
You got your wishes and Kelly is no longer a viable candidate. I'm glad Taylor remained. If you went to a movie and you thought the show was boring, disgusting or whatever, would you watch to the end? If you don't like to see Taylor perform then turn off your TV or leave the room. None of the other contestants, except for Gideon who left earlier on, can perform like Taylor.
In my opinion, Paris Bennet is a more versatile singer that Katherine. Even if she gets sent home, she definitely has a future, cause she's a powerhouse at 17. Perhaps Katherine can do well in Vegas doing something like Celine Dion or maybe sing with a symphony orchestra. I would go to a Taylor Hicks concert over Katherine. So there! Comments like yours only energize Taylor fans like me to vote. Hey Taylor, I'll never let you go!!

[RushDog]

You got your wishes and Kelly is no longer a viable candidate. I'm glad Taylor remained. If you went to a movie and you thought the show was boring, disgusting or whatever, would you watch to the end? If you don't like to see Taylor perform then turn off your TV or leave the room. None of the other contestants, except for Gideon who left earlier on, can perform like Taylor.
In my opinion, Paris Bennet is a more versatile singer that Katherine. Even if she gets sent home, she definitely has a future, cause she's a powerhouse at 17. Perhaps Katherine can do well in Vegas doing something like Celine Dion or maybe sing with a symphony orchestra. I would go to a Taylor Hicks concert over Katherine. So there! Comments like yours only energize Taylor fans like me to vote. Hey Taylor, I'll never let you go!!

Skylarke, I feel your pain.

[Maxfactor]

If Taylor wins there is injustice. There is no way he is the most talented. He's different. He's good. But not better than Kat or Chris.

[RushDog]

If Taylor wins there is injustice. There is no way he is the most talented. He's different. He's good. But not better than Kat or Chris.

This show is all about injustices. It was an injustice when Constantine was voted off last year before Scott Savol. It was an injustice that Latoya London didn't make it to the final two, and it was an injustice when Bo lost last year Carrie.

[MusicLover]

This show is all about injustices. It was an injustice when Constantine was voted off last year before Scott Savol. It was an injustice that Latoya London didn't make it to the final two, and it was an injustice when Bo lost last year Carrie.

Seems like someone always thinks there's some injustice in everything.

[Skylarke]

She sure did look awesome.

And I personally thought she looked better than Mariah.

Yeah I guess she rocked your fantasy world. It's really a big transformation, from the frumpish, pregnant looking attire she wore some weeks ago, to the thigh high split, revealing her undies at one point, and her b--s all popping out. Perhaps that's why she surged in the vote count. Teenagers salivating. Hmmmmmm!

[kennb2006]

This show is all about injustices. It was an injustice when Constantine was voted off last year before Scott Savol. It was an injustice that Latoya London didn't make it to the final two, and it was an injustice when Bo lost last year Carrie.

I agree with the first two, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see just how much more popular Carrie is than Bo in the real world. Ummm, 3 million and counting CDs to like 800,000 and dropping?? Buyers don't lie.

Plus, Bo's busy getting himself in fights..lol

[sydneylovesace]

If Taylor wins there is injustice. There is no way he is the most talented. He's different. He's good. But not better than Kat or Chris.

An INJUSTICE! This ain't Law and Order!
There is no injustice whether Taylor, Chris, Katharine, Elliott, or Paris wins.
BUT if say, Ryan or Paula won then there would be and injustice because they are not in the competion. If more Americans want Taylor to win then he "justice-ly" should be the winner!

[MusicLover]

I don't see any "injust" action. I think everyone has their opinions on who needs to win. In this case "Injustice" is a state of mind. And very objective. For example, I love Chris. But if for some reason he doesn't win, it's not injustice; America just didn't vote that way. Plus, I know he'll be successful regardless of whether he's "the" Idol or not!
:)

[grania]

If Taylor wins there is injustice. There is no way he is the most talented. He's different. He's good. But not better than Kat or Chris.It's incredible this year how there is so little consensus about whom is a great AI contestant.

I don't care for Kat, and can't imagine listening to a whole concert (or even a set) of her songs. And to me, Chris just doesn't have his own style.
:boldred: :boldred: :lsvader: :boldred:
To me, it's all too commercial this year. Eliot is the only real deal....besides Taylor, whom I'd much rather have performing in medium-sized venues.

[graciespeaks]

I don't care for Kat, and can't imagine listening to a whole concert (or even a set) of her songs.
I really do agree with this, although she can sing, I have no interest in listening to her sing.
:confused:

[MusicLover]

I really do agree with this, although she can sing, I have no interest in listening to her sing.
:confused:

Until she comes out with her own songs, instead of singing songs we already know, I won't be able to tell... I didn't like the early Kelly Clarkson stuff, but I'm a die-hard fan now.
:luxhello:

[RushDog]

I agree with the first two, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see just how much more popular Carrie is than Bo in the real world. Ummm, 3 million and counting CDs to like 800,000 and dropping?? Buyers don't lie.

Plus, Bo's busy getting himself in fights..lol


Well, Carrie has done better than Bo since AI, I just thought he did better than her during the competition, that's why I thought he deserved to win. That's just my opinion, and I respect yours.

[Maxfactor]

Yeah I guess she rocked your fantasy world. It's really a big transformation, from the frumpish, pregnant looking attire she wore some weeks ago, to the thigh high split, revealing her undies at one point, and her b--s all popping out. Perhaps that's why she surged in the vote count. Teenagers salivating. Hmmmmmm!

Who cares what she looks like. She has a great voice. They knew it from the beginning and so did anyone who saw her audition. And they ALL start looking better throughout the competition.

[froggiegurl]

katharine was awesome. as always!:)

[aztecgoods]

I agree with the first two, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see just how much more popular Carrie is than Bo in the real world. Ummm, 3 million and counting CDs to like 800,000 and dropping?? Buyers don't lie.

Plus, Bo's busy getting himself in fights..lol

Carrie's awesome and deserves those sales, but 800,000 and dropping? Thats a gold album going on platinum. In today's music business that is an incredible success. Carrie is just even more successful. CD sales are at an all time low with the internet taking away so much from previous decades total sales. There are a ton of artists out there that would kill to be only 800,000 and dropping.

[aztecgoods]

Yeah I guess she rocked your fantasy world. It's really a big transformation, from the frumpish, pregnant looking attire she wore some weeks ago, to the thigh high split, revealing her undies at one point, and her b--s all popping out. Perhaps that's why she surged in the vote count. Teenagers salivating. Hmmmmmm!

it got me to vote for her (figuratively speaking) but hey I'm easy. Theres nothing wrong with these girls trying to sex it up a bit, that's exactly what she needed, but maybe a little more, she needs to get those tips from Kellie.