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lizzyj
09-12-2008, 08:09 PM
Please help me understand something...

How can a person call them self a Christian and a Democrat?

If someone is a Christian, and puts God first in there life, how can they vote democrat and say they are in the will of God?

God is against abortion, particle birth abortion and gay marriage. So as a Christian, aren't we suppose to follow God and Support the Republican ticket who are against the same things?

If we know that God hates sin, how can we vote to make these sins legal in our country?

Are we putting God first or ourselves?

A country who turns away from God will see God turn away from that country.

I can see how those who choose not to believe in God or believe and have no understanding and don't choose to walk with God can be democrat. But to say, Yes I love Christ, and I walk with him, then to push him aside to focus on their own wishes or distorted views to vote against God.

If we stop fighting for our rights in this free country, others will take those rights away from us. God expects us to fight for the freedom to worship him.

Socialism is scary, be afraid of the liberal agenda. When Government controls health care and starts wage distribution, what will be next?

Add that to recent events like taking "In God We Trust" out of government and prayer out of schools. These are the acts of liberals.

That's why I say, NO, you can't be a Christian, stay in God's will and vote democrat.

If you don't believe me, pray about it and see what God says.

RayRay
09-12-2008, 08:14 PM
I believe you. Liberals are the most anti-Christian SOB's. If you don't believe me, just go visit the Daily Kos, or any other Liberal website.

chickie
09-12-2008, 08:15 PM
I agree that you cannot be a democrat and a Christian. They just don't go together. Christians don't kill babies, pay people to not work, approve of sodomy....

lizzyj
09-12-2008, 08:15 PM
I believe you. Liberals are the most anti-Christian SOB's. If you don't believe me, just go visit the Daily Kos, or any other Liberal website.

I did RAY, I couldn't believe what I was reading!

RayRay
09-12-2008, 08:17 PM
I did RAY, I couldn't believe what I was reading!

I've been on a few liberal message boards, and anyone who even talks about their Christian faith gets attacked, left and right.

I tried witnessing to a satanist, named, Vincubus, and that went over like a fart in church.

chickie
09-12-2008, 08:20 PM
Some people are so satanic they cannot receive the Word. Some are so ignorant about Biblical positions on sodomy and baby-killing they have no clue. Those people are dark and dangerous.

CherylSeagull
09-12-2008, 08:32 PM
Please help me understand something...

How can a person call them self a Christian and a Democrat?

If someone is a Christian, and puts God first in there life, how can they vote democrat and say they are in the will of God?

God is against abortion, particle birth abortion and gay marriage. So as a Christian, aren't we suppose to follow God and Support the Republican ticket who are against the same things?

If we know that God hates sin, how can we vote to make these sins legal in our country?

Are we putting God first or ourselves?

A country who turns away from God will see God turn away from that country.

I can see how those who choose not to believe in God or believe and have no understanding and don't choose to walk with God can be democrat. But to say, Yes I love Christ, and I walk with him, then to push him aside to focus on their own wishes or distorted views to vote against God.

If we stop fighting for our rights in this free country, others will take those rights away from us. God expects us to fight for the freedom to worship him.

Socialism is scary, be afraid of the liberal agenda. When Government controls health care and starts wage distribution, what will be next?

Add that to recent events like taking "In God We Trust" out of government and prayer out of schools. These are the acts of liberals.

That's why I say, NO, you can't be a Christian, stay in God's will and vote democrat.

If you don't believe me, pray about it and see what God says.

Thank You, LizzyJ ...

I agree with you entirely !

Kelly, stop talking to yourself, it's creeping us out.

lizzyj
09-12-2008, 08:34 PM
Thank You, LizzyJ ...

I agree with you entirely !

Oh, thank you.

I thought about starting that thread all night last night and all day today. I feel it was the right thing to do.

RayRay
09-12-2008, 08:35 PM
Oh, thank you.

I thought about starting that thread all night last night and all day today. I feel it was the right thing to do.

You said how I feel, very eloquently.

Feisty Kitty
09-13-2008, 02:00 AM
lizzyj;110556]Please help me understand something...

How can a person call them self a Christian and a Democrat?

Liberals are reformers, just like the first reformer, the big J.C.

If someone is a Christian, and puts God first in there life, how can they vote democrat and say they are in the will of God?

How the hell do you know the will of god, and how can you so pomposly state that you do?

God is against abortion, particle birth abortion and gay marriage. Where does one find this Bible passage? BTW, what is "particle" abortion?

So as a Christian, aren't we suppose to follow God and Support the Republican ticket who are against the same things?
Not all Christians oppose these ideas. Get out more.
If we know that God hates sin, how can we vote to make these sins legal in our country?
Your pride is a sin greater than even murder, according to most churches, doctrine, ancient texts, etc. But then, we know you don't read
Are we putting God first or ourselves?
You must be right. Let's not have abortions but kill all lives involved by unplanned pregnancy. Let's not "kill babies' but destry nations of people who we deem wrong or wicked. Let's love our white neighbors but declare war on our brown ones.
A country who turns away from God will see God turn away from that country.
God is the Fig Newton of your imagination, because, in your intollerance of what you believe is his creation, your hatred of his mercy, and disregard of the example of his love, you are the one who has murdered him, you Pharasies
I can see how those who choose not to believe in God or believe and have no understanding and don't choose to walk with God can be democrat. But to say, Yes I love Christ, and I walk with him, then to push him aside to focus on their own wishes or distorted views to vote against God.
I am shocked to hear god needs a vote. I thought he had the office all locked in.

If we stop fighting for our rights in this free country, others will take those rights away from us. God expects us to fight for the freedom to worship him.
Love thy neighbor
Socialism is scary, be afraid of the liberal agenda. When Government controls health care and starts wage distribution, what will be next?
God must hate the poor
Add that to recent events like taking "In God We Trust" out of government and prayer out of schools. These are the acts of liberals.

That's why I say, NO, you can't be a Christian, stay in God's will and vote democrat.
I am so glad that it is up to you to decide.
If you don't believe me, pray about it and see what God says.[/QUOTE]

And God said, "Let there be human minds devoid of the drivel spat out of the bowels of men, sickened by the greed and power of societal control."

lizzyj
09-13-2008, 05:37 AM
Ms little kitty,

If you would pick up a bible, you too would know the will of God, your rant shows me just how simply stupid people can be when it comes to the bible.

Furthermore, don't swear at me. Just because you married the sos doesn't give you the right to disrespect me.

CherylSeagull
09-13-2008, 06:28 AM
Thank You, LizzyJ ...

I agree with you entirely !


Sack O Sh!t edited my response and wrote;

Kelly, stop talking to yourself, it's creeping us out.

??????

He's saying LizzyJ and Kelly are the same ????

lizzyj
09-13-2008, 06:32 AM
What has this site come to?

I can't even read responses that people write to me without it being edited?

this is crazy

RayRay
09-13-2008, 07:19 AM
Blah Blah Blah

Have fun in Hell, honey.

sadie
09-13-2008, 07:45 AM
WB Lizzyj....:p

You have some great points. Glad to see you are still standing up for what you believe in. I always have respected views of others....but you know the deal here as well as anyone.

I think we all see things somewhat differently, and am always happy to hear thoughts of others not so much into trying to make someone feel stupid. (you know who you are.....:o)

Anyway.......GO MCCAIN AND PALIN

sadie
09-13-2008, 07:49 AM
??????

He's saying LizzyJ and Kelly are the same ????

Everyone knows that Lizzyj and Kelly are not the same. TG

RayRay
09-13-2008, 07:55 AM
Everyone knows that Lizzyj and Kelly are not the same. TG

Ironically, all three of you are nurses.

sadie
09-13-2008, 08:03 AM
Ironically, all three of you are nurses.

Ummmm I am a Nurse Manager.....does that mean I am in charge of Lizzy and Kelly......hehe

CherylSeagull
09-13-2008, 08:08 AM
Ummmm I am a Nurse Manager.....does that mean I am in charge of Lizzy and Kelly......hehe

I'm an LPN, Sadie. So yes maybe you could be in charge. :D

I'm looking into RN however. The LPN life is ..... tough !

lizzyj
09-13-2008, 09:42 AM
You might be the nurse manager

but Im the head nurse

teetee

sadie
09-13-2008, 09:46 AM
You might be the nurse manager

but Im the head nurse

teetee

dang it...i knew you would fall out of line. get your ass under me. :p

I have to be in control, I have severe OCD and soooooo many other conditions that make it just about impossible to allow me to be anything except #1.

But I have always loved me some Lizzyj!!!! Again, glad you are back.:p

sadie
09-13-2008, 09:47 AM
I'm an LPN, Sadie. So yes maybe you could be in charge. :D

I'm looking into RN however. The LPN life is ..... tough !



Whewwww TYTYTYTY...........:boldred:

You are right LPN life is tough, I was a LPN for a few years then went on to RN. LPN's are some of the hardest workers everrrrrrrr, they should be applauded.
Hope you go further, it will change your life. Good Luck.

TaylorHicksRocks
09-13-2008, 01:04 PM
Please help me understand something...

How can a person call them self a Christian and a Democrat?

If someone is a Christian, and puts God first in there life, how can they vote democrat and say they are in the will of God?

God is against abortion, particle birth abortion and gay marriage. So as a Christian, aren't we suppose to follow God and Support the Republican ticket who are against the same things?

If we know that God hates sin, how can we vote to make these sins legal in our country?

Are we putting God first or ourselves?

A country who turns away from God will see God turn away from that country.

I can see how those who choose not to believe in God or believe and have no understanding and don't choose to walk with God can be democrat. But to say, Yes I love Christ, and I walk with him, then to push him aside to focus on their own wishes or distorted views to vote against God.

If we stop fighting for our rights in this free country, others will take those rights away from us. God expects us to fight for the freedom to worship him.

Socialism is scary, be afraid of the liberal agenda. When Government controls health care and starts wage distribution, what will be next?

Add that to recent events like taking "In God We Trust" out of government and prayer out of schools. These are the acts of liberals.

That's why I say, NO, you can't be a Christian, stay in God's will and vote democrat.

If you don't believe me, pray about it and see what God says.


Sissy I am a Christian and a democrat and you would be surprised as ro how many people I know who are Rebuplicans have been their entire lives and have had abortions either for themslvers or for their children would they be hypocrites....I have been thinking about this all day and didn't have time eo respond this morning as I had to go to work...I don't agree with everything the democratic party stands for as I believe most democrats feel the same way I live in a heavy democratic area and you would not believe the amount of pro-life bill boards we do not all agree with killing a life...as dar as homosexuality goes my brother was born that way I know because I grew up with him and saw the difference between him and my other 2 brothers....God is important in my life and I like to live my life as Jesus would want me to...We are given choices in life and hopefully we all make the right ones....

lizzyj
09-13-2008, 04:40 PM
THR, you know I love you.

Therefor we can agree to disagree

however, when voting, we need to support God's cause, not ours.

TaylorHicksRocks
09-13-2008, 05:33 PM
I love you too Sissy and when I vote I vote with my heart knowing that I am doing what is best for our country....really there is not that much difference between the parties...

TaylorHicksRocks
09-14-2008, 03:59 PM
??????

He's saying LizzyJ and Kelly are the same ????


No he's saying CherylSeagull and Kelly are one and the same...

Feisty Kitty
09-15-2008, 10:12 AM
Ms little kitty,

If you would pick up a bible, you too would know the will of God, your rant shows me just how simply stupid people can be when it comes to the bible.

Furthermore, don't swear at me. Just because you married the sos doesn't give you the right to disrespect me.

I have read the Bible at least 20 times, cover to cover, in many translations. I have studied it extensivley since kindergarten. I know exactly what it says.

I never swore at you.

I have every right to my opinion, and if you find it disrespectful, tough! I find you comments very disrespectful, and sweepingly closed minded. I just don't whine about it, but continue a dialogue using facts to build my argument.

frank
09-15-2008, 10:34 AM
Hey Kitty

If you need someone to swear at people, I'm your man baby

Feisty Kitty
09-15-2008, 10:43 AM
Thanks, Frankie! Trust me, If these pathetic people were actually worth it, I would swear at them myself. But like I said before, one really shouldn't pick on the slow kid in school.

sadie
09-16-2008, 06:38 PM
Thanks, Frankie! Trust me, If these pathetic people were actually worth it, I would swear at them myself. But like I said before, one really shouldn't pick on the slow kid in school.

tsk tsk...not so sure this how to handle yourself either.

sadie
09-16-2008, 07:32 PM
I find you comments very disrespectful, and sweepingly closed minded. I just don't whine about it, but continue a dialogue using facts to build my argument.

I enjoy lj's posts. I have never been offended by them whether I agreed with them or not. No two people are ever going to agree on everything...nice to see how Lj and THR can agree to disagree. :p;):p

Also, I dont ever recall her insinuating anyone here as being 'the slow kid in school'.....which would be totally 'uncool'. :eek:

lizzyj
09-16-2008, 07:52 PM
I have read the Bible at least 20 times, cover to cover, in many translations. I have studied it extensivley since kindergarten. I know exactly what it says.

I never swore at you.

I have every right to my opinion, and if you find it disrespectful, tough! I find you comments very disrespectful, and sweepingly closed minded. I just don't whine about it, but continue a dialogue using facts to build my argument.


I don't know who you think you are but it seems that the only thing you have going for you is that your hubby is a mod, and that pretty sad.

You may have read the bible but until God gives you the knowledge to understand it, you'll never get it.

Sweepingly closed minded? If it's close minded to think children born from botched abortions deserve medical care, then you are right, I am.

If you think it is closed minded to believe partial birth abortion is murder, then you are right, I am.

If you think sticking a needle in the head of a baby to kill it during delivery is open minded, then you are.

If you think teaching age appro sex ed to kindergarteners is open minded, then you are.

If you think it's ok to hate Sarah Palin for no other reason than she doesn't support your open minded agenda, then hate her

But if anything you read in the bible those 20 times would have taught you not to hate others, you wouldn't have wrote that.

As far as the slow kid in school, I'm not that person. I've done pretty well going to work and saving lives for the past 17 years.

However, being a school teacher, I wonder how your students and their parents would feel if they knew you were making such nasty comments about people.

I support what I do, you support what you do and at the end of the day I'm glad children are at the front and center of my heart. Maybe you shouldn't have any.


Your Obama doesn't want children born from botched abortions to receive medical care. He voted against it 4 times. He said it would only make the mother second guess her decision.

Your Obama voted in favor of partial birth abortion, he said it was because the ban didn't have a clause to use this method to save the womans life. It didn't have that clause because inserting a syringe in a baby's head sucking out its brain matter and killing it cannot save a womans life. Simply delivering the baby will, which BTW has always been legal.

So, if at the end of the day, you don't feel sorry for all those dead baby's, then vote Obama, but I do feel sorry for them, therefor, I'm voting for John McCain and I'm extremely proud of my vote.

I hope you are.

sadie
09-16-2008, 08:02 PM
I have read the Bible at least 20 times, cover to cover, in many translations. I have studied it extensivley since kindergarten. I know exactly what it says.

But if anything you read in the bible those 20 times would have taught you not to hate others, you wouldn't have wrote that.

I think the issue is not whether you've read the Bible, but whether or not you believed what you read.....

lizzyj
09-17-2008, 08:29 PM
Does this one world view that democrats like, esp Obama remind anyone of a book in the bible?

So, again how can you be a Christian and vote for Obama?

Do you want to start the end of time? Do you want the antichrist to lead? That's what will happen with the one world view.

666 stamps? they might sell them but I'm not buying!

Tors
09-17-2008, 09:54 PM
666 stamps? they might sell them but I'm not buying!

Oh my, that would be scary. I wish they would come out with Cher stamps!

lizzyj
09-17-2008, 09:59 PM
Oh my, that would be scary. I wish they would come out with Cher stamps!

haha

I was refering to the mark of the beast as mentioned in the bible

Tors
09-17-2008, 10:01 PM
Wow, you girls are nurses? That's impressive!

I'm not a nurse, but sometime I dress up like one, as part of my act.

I'll be on stage, dressed like a nurse, giving first aid to some handsome young man, meanwhile I'll have that song "Doctor Doctor" by Thompson Twins playing. The crowd just loves it!

lizzyj
09-17-2008, 10:02 PM
Wow, you girls are nurses? That's impressive!

I'm not a nurse, but sometime I dress up like one, as part of my act.

I'll be on stage, dressed like a nurse, giving first aid to some handsome young man, meanwhile I'll have that song "Doctor Doctor" by Thompson Twins playing. The crowd just loves it!

you're so funny :D

but yes, a nurse x 17 years

Tors
09-17-2008, 10:04 PM
you're so funny :D

but yes, a nurse x 17 years

Wow, girlfriend, you got it goin' on!

TaylorHicksRocks
09-18-2008, 06:43 AM
I enjoy lj's posts. I have never been offended by them whether I agreed with them or not. No two people are ever going to agree on everything...nice to see how Lj and THR can agree to disagree. :p;):p

Also, I dont ever recall her insinuating anyone here as being 'the slow kid in school'.....which would be totally 'uncool'. :eek:


Very very true sissy!!!! We shouls never let things like politics get in the way of a friendship..

lizzyj
09-18-2008, 05:48 PM
Very very true sissy!!!! We shouls never let things like politics get in the way of a friendship..

THR,

no comment about the murders?